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Haven’t seen a Canadian team played that stupid in a while. United States had eight power play chances and scored on three of them. That’s the game right there and despite the homer crowd blaming the refs, they’were all deserved penalties, Canada played a very undisciplined game..
 

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Canada has many contenders to be placed as their 13th forward moving forward.
But Easton Cowan has earned that honour. What a dumbass tonight.
He's been playing the same way he plays in London, and he's getting snuffed out.
Meanwhile Brampton linemates Martone (>2 PPG) and Rehkopf (1.74PPG) have been alternated as the 13th forward instead of playing on a line together.
Dave Cameron needs to be booted as far from Hockey Canada as they can get him.

Sidenote: The GER-KAZ relegation game loser will be replaced by Denmark next year, as they won Division 1 Group A just before Christmas.

 
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Haven’t seen a Canadian team played that stupid in a while. United States had eight power play chances and scored on three of them. That’s the game right there and despite the homer crowd blaming the refs, they’were all deserved penalties, Canada played a very undisciplined game..
You are absolutely right. And the taking dumb penalties isn’t just in this game. It cost them the game against Latvia as they scored to power play goals and Canada had to kill many other power play opportunities that they gave up. I’m not sure but I think they are the most penalized team in the tournament so far. Well done boys !!!!
 
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I've coached hockey for the last decade.

Canadian _style_ hockey is dead. We train our kids not to score. "assists are better than goals", "don't be selfish". We've been playing like scoring a goal is a federal crime. No one driving the net, no one attacking when they're one-on-one. This is 100% a result of the style of hockey that Hockey Canada teaches.

Combined with the "gotta be tough if you want to play" cheap shots that actually get called in the international game, and we're cooked.

And worst of all, look at the faces on the ice last night: Americans were chirping and walking away smiling. Canadian kids were leaving scrums MAD. That's a coaching/culture issue.

Hockey's supposed to be our game, but the world has moved on. In the 2023 draft, only 9 first round picks came from Hockey Canada. 2024 was 15, but it'll decrease rapidly now that NCAA has removed the OHL exclusion. Kids will use a season in the O to get scholarships and never look back.
 

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The US team has 10 returning players and a returning head coach.
Canada only has 4 returning players - Cowan, Bonk, Rehkopf and Yager. Plus two underage in McKenna and Schaefer.
I'd be happy with a medal, I can't see us winning gold. We'll have our hands full with Czechia that's for sure. They have been playing well.
 

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I've coached hockey for the last decade.

Canadian _style_ hockey is dead. We train our kids not to score. "assists are better than goals", "don't be selfish". We've been playing like scoring a goal is a federal crime. No one driving the net, no one attacking when they're one-on-one. This is 100% a result of the style of hockey that Hockey Canada teaches.

Combined with the "gotta be tough if you want to play" cheap shots that actually get called in the international game, and we're cooked.

And worst of all, look at the faces on the ice last night: Americans were chirping and walking away smiling. Canadian kids were leaving scrums MAD. That's a coaching/culture issue.

Hockey's supposed to be our game, but the world has moved on. In the 2023 draft, only 9 first round picks came from Hockey Canada. 2024 was 15, but it'll decrease rapidly now that NCAA has removed the OHL exclusion. Kids will use a season in the O to get scholarships and never look back.
No, I think you’re getting carried away. Canadian hockey is not dead, but stupid penalties will kill your team. You can’t do some of the stuff that they did yesterday in that game and expect it to work out in the end. Teams power players are just too good nowadays to defend 7/8 times a game.
 
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And worst of all, look at the faces on the ice last night: Americans were chirping and walking away smiling. Canadian kids were leaving scrums MAD. That's a coaching/culture issue.
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Dumb penalties aside they had plenty of scoring chances. I'm betting that all things will even out and they're going to start going in soon.

To me it just looks like the team is trying too hard. Looks like they're forcing things. Guys are to worried about pasting their opponents rather than playing good positional hockey. They need a good talking to and I'm not sure Cameron is the guy to do it.

Like to add that I've never coached, only a fan. Just my 2 cents.
 

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Canada has young players not in the tournament like Bedard and Celebrini among others who are goal scorers so I don't think Canada is teaching players not to score.
 

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Our best players are not playing in Hockey Canada programs. They're in the BCHL, academies, etc. Once you make the decision to get better training, Hockey Canada bars you from international competition.

We _may_ keep the lead in NHL players (doubtful within the next 5 years), but our international performance will continue to slide.
 

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Our best players are not playing in Hockey Canada programs. They're in the BCHL, academies, etc. Once you make the decision to get better training, Hockey Canada bars you from international competition.

We _may_ keep the lead in NHL players (doubtful within the next 5 years), but our international performance will continue to slide.
Wrong…what are you thinking? The best players, 95% of them, are playing in the three major junior leagues…the BC league does not have the best players.
 

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Giving up a goal 43 seconds in is a coaching issue.
Beaudoin's major meant that Canada was tired.
Cameron's really really dumb challenge meant that there was 2 minutes less to score a goal
Gibson's penalty was completely unnecessary.

Lots of blame to go around. My assessment stands: Low percentage shots from the outside, taking an extra pass when you have good scoring chances, not making a play when you are 1-on-1 in the o-zone, and taking dumb penalties when you're down. Hockey Canada style hockey in a nutshell.
 

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The U.S is becoming the dominant hockey power.
Really?

The US hasn’t won an Olympic gold in 44 years, a World Championship in 64 years, have won 2 of the last 7 World Junior Championships compared to Canada’s 4 in the same time and Canada has close to double the players in the NHL.

I’m missing the “dominant” part.
 
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Really?

The US hasn’t won an Olympic gold in 44 years, a World Championship in 64 years, have won 2 of the last 7 World Junior Championships compared to Canada’s 4 in the same time and Canada has close to double the players in th
Really?

The US hasn’t won an Olympic gold in 44 years, a World Championship in 64 years, have won 2 of the last 7 World Junior Championships compared to Canada’s 4 in the same time and Canada has close to double the players in the NHL.

I’m missing the “dominant” part.
True Canada has won more int'l tournaments, maybe not dominant yet but the gap may be narrowing as roughly 41% Canadians to 29% Yanks on NHL rosters. Mind you the NHL hasn't participated in recent Olympic tournaments. Who would have believed 40 years ago that the top Leafs player would be coming out of Arizona! More players are coming out of US colleges than ever before. In the women"s game its neck between the U.S. and Canada.
 
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