Cracks emerge in Trump's MAGA coalition

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WASHINGTON: Donald Trump has yet to move back into the White House and already fissures are opening in his coalition, amid squabbling between Elon Musk and his Silicon Valley "tech bros" and his hardcore Republican backers.

At the heart of the internecine sniping is Trump's central election issue - immigration - and the H1-B visas that allow companies to bring foreigners with specific qualifications to the United States.

The permits are widely used in Silicon Valley, and Musk - who himself came to the United States from South Africa on an H1-B - is a fervent advocate.

The world's richest man, who bankrolled Trump's election campaign and has become a close advisor, posted on X Thursday (Dec 27) that welcoming elite engineering talent from abroad was "essential for America to keep winning".

Vivek Ramaswamy, appointed by Trump as Musk's co-chair on a new advisory board on government efficiency, suggested that companies prefer foreign workers because they lack an "American culture", which he said venerates mediocrity.

"A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers," he posted, warning that, without a change in attitude, "we'll have our asses handed to us by China".

Scepticism over the benefits of immigration is a hallmark of Trump's Make America Great Again (MAGA) movement and the billionaires' remarks angered immigration hawks who accused them of ignoring US achievements in technological innovation.

Incoming White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller posted a 2020 speech in which Trump marvelled at the American "culture" that had "harnessed electricity, split the atom, and gave the world the telephone and the Internet".

The post appeared calculated to remind critics that Trump won November's election on a platform of getting tough on immigration and boosting American manufacturing.



 

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Next 4 years will be quite a shit show. Buy ghe pop corn now as its still affordable and enjoy the show
 
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WASHINGTON: Donald Trump has yet to move back into the White House and already fissures are opening in his coalition, amid squabbling between Elon Musk and his Silicon Valley "tech bros" and his hardcore Republican backers.

At the heart of the internecine sniping is Trump's central election issue - immigration - and the H1-B visas that allow companies to bring foreigners with specific qualifications to the United States.

The permits are widely used in Silicon Valley, and Musk - who himself came to the United States from South Africa on an H1-B - is a fervent advocate.

The world's richest man, who bankrolled Trump's election campaign and has become a close advisor, posted on X Thursday (Dec 27) that welcoming elite engineering talent from abroad was "essential for America to keep winning".

Vivek Ramaswamy, appointed by Trump as Musk's co-chair on a new advisory board on government efficiency, suggested that companies prefer foreign workers because they lack an "American culture", which he said venerates mediocrity.

"A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers," he posted, warning that, without a change in attitude, "we'll have our asses handed to us by China".

Scepticism over the benefits of immigration is a hallmark of Trump's Make America Great Again (MAGA) movement and the billionaires' remarks angered immigration hawks who accused them of ignoring US achievements in technological innovation.

Incoming White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller posted a 2020 speech in which Trump marvelled at the American "culture" that had "harnessed electricity, split the atom, and gave the world the telephone and the Internet".

The post appeared calculated to remind critics that Trump won November's election on a platform of getting tough on immigration and boosting American manufacturing.



In reality the atomic bomb was developed by Germans and thr telephone a Canadian but don't let the morons lies distract you
 

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The Righties were condemning Canada for freedom of speech. That was for goodness knows what so called "censorship"!!
But this is the total censorship of real Freedom of Expression:

Elon Musk accused of censoring conservatives on X who disagree with him about immigration
The claims came after Elon Musk was involved in a public feud with some Republicans over immigration.

Tech billionaire Elon Musk faced accusations of censorship Friday from fellow conservatives after several prominent right-wing accounts who had criticized Musk’s views on immigration said that they subsequently lost access to premium features on Musk’s social media app, X.

At least 14 conservative accounts said late Thursday or Friday that X had revoked their blue verification badge, cutting them off from a variety of premium features, including the ability to monetize their accounts through subscriptions and advertising revenue-sharing, according to a review conducted by NBC News. Some accounts said the number of those affected was far higher.


The accounts were all still active Friday, but without access to monetization features; some of them said they worried about their ability to keep posting.

Some conservatives said they considered X’s actions to be a betrayal by Musk, who purchased the service then known as Twitter in 2022 in part because he said it had unfairly limited conservative speech. Musk has since called himself a free-expression advocate, even as he calls for jailing some of his critics.

Musk and X did not respond to requests for comment on Friday. But on Thursday night, about an hour before some conservatives started complaining about losing access to X’s premium features, Musk posted what he called “a reminder” on X. He wrote that the site’s algorithm automatically reduces the reach of a user if they’re frequently blocked or muted by other, credible users.

“If far more credible, verified subscriber accounts (not bots) mute/block your account compared to those who like your posts, your reach will decline significantly,” Musk posted.

But rather than satisfying people complaining about censorship, the post elicited even more accusations that Musk was shadowbanning his conservative critics, or reducing engagement on their posts without officially disclosing such actions to affected accounts.

The actions by X came in the middle of a heated online debate on the subject of future immigration policy under President-elect Donald Trump, with anti-immigration MAGA loyalists denouncing the influence of pro-immigration tech executives and investors such as Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy.

Many of the affected accounts said they were affiliated with one media brand in particular, ConservativeOG.

Preston Parra, a 23-year-old influencer and head of ConservativeOG, said he considered the actions by X to be a “political takedown” in retaliation for publicly disagreeing with Musk’s pro-immigration views.

He said he plans to keep fighting Musk, not only to get his premium features restored but also to ensure that Trump pursues restrictionist immigration policies.

“If anyone thinks for one minute the REAL backbone of the right wing and MAGA is gonna stand idly by while these big tech gillionaire Silicon Valley dweebs who didn’t get bullied enough in high school, steal our country, they’re mistaken,” Parra said in a text message. He said he believes Musk to be a “Trojan horse” in the Trump camp.

Trump announced that Musk and Ramaswamy would lead a new “Department of Government Efficiency,” to much fanfare, shortly after the Nov. 5 election. But in recent days, after venture capitalist Sriram Krishnan was announced as a White House adviser on AI policy, Trump’s tech-world allies — including Musk and Ramaswamy — have come under deeper scrutiny and criticism from the far-right for their previous statements about or involvement with legal immigration.

Musk is an immigrant, having been born and raised in South Africa. He became a U.S. citizen in 2002.

 

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The Righties were condemning Canada for freedom of speech. That was for goodness knows what so called "censorship"!!
But this is the total censorship of real Freedom of Expression:

Elon Musk accused of censoring conservatives on X who disagree with him about immigration
The claims came after Elon Musk was involved in a public feud with some Republicans over immigration.

Tech billionaire Elon Musk faced accusations of censorship Friday from fellow conservatives after several prominent right-wing accounts who had criticized Musk’s views on immigration said that they subsequently lost access to premium features on Musk’s social media app, X.

At least 14 conservative accounts said late Thursday or Friday that X had revoked their blue verification badge, cutting them off from a variety of premium features, including the ability to monetize their accounts through subscriptions and advertising revenue-sharing, according to a review conducted by NBC News. Some accounts said the number of those affected was far higher.


The accounts were all still active Friday, but without access to monetization features; some of them said they worried about their ability to keep posting.

Some conservatives said they considered X’s actions to be a betrayal by Musk, who purchased the service then known as Twitter in 2022 in part because he said it had unfairly limited conservative speech. Musk has since called himself a free-expression advocate, even as he calls for jailing some of his critics.

Musk and X did not respond to requests for comment on Friday. But on Thursday night, about an hour before some conservatives started complaining about losing access to X’s premium features, Musk posted what he called “a reminder” on X. He wrote that the site’s algorithm automatically reduces the reach of a user if they’re frequently blocked or muted by other, credible users.

“If far more credible, verified subscriber accounts (not bots) mute/block your account compared to those who like your posts, your reach will decline significantly,” Musk posted.

But rather than satisfying people complaining about censorship, the post elicited even more accusations that Musk was shadowbanning his conservative critics, or reducing engagement on their posts without officially disclosing such actions to affected accounts.

The actions by X came in the middle of a heated online debate on the subject of future immigration policy under President-elect Donald Trump, with anti-immigration MAGA loyalists denouncing the influence of pro-immigration tech executives and investors such as Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy.

Many of the affected accounts said they were affiliated with one media brand in particular, ConservativeOG.

Preston Parra, a 23-year-old influencer and head of ConservativeOG, said he considered the actions by X to be a “political takedown” in retaliation for publicly disagreeing with Musk’s pro-immigration views.

He said he plans to keep fighting Musk, not only to get his premium features restored but also to ensure that Trump pursues restrictionist immigration policies.

“If anyone thinks for one minute the REAL backbone of the right wing and MAGA is gonna stand idly by while these big tech gillionaire Silicon Valley dweebs who didn’t get bullied enough in high school, steal our country, they’re mistaken,” Parra said in a text message. He said he believes Musk to be a “Trojan horse” in the Trump camp.

Trump announced that Musk and Ramaswamy would lead a new “Department of Government Efficiency,” to much fanfare, shortly after the Nov. 5 election. But in recent days, after venture capitalist Sriram Krishnan was announced as a White House adviser on AI policy, Trump’s tech-world allies — including Musk and Ramaswamy — have come under deeper scrutiny and criticism from the far-right for their previous statements about or involvement with legal immigration.

Musk is an immigrant, having been born and raised in South Africa. He became a U.S. citizen in 2002.

I had idea who Preston Parra was..looked him up and he has a whopping 3,985 followers, lol

That's a really prominent influencer eh?...NBC news,lol

Anyways here's a tweet from this Parra dude. So you can salivate.

 
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I had idea who Preston Parra was..looked him up and he has a whopping 3,985 followers, lol

That's a really prominent influencer eh?...NBC news,lol

Anyways here's a tweet from this Parra dude. So you can salivate.

Well we do not have to salivate when there is already any beginning to show cracks in Trump's team before he has even taken office.
How about Laura Loomer? She was censored as well!!




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has censored my account in retaliation for speaking out about Big Tech and immigration. He removed my check mark and canceled all my subscriptions. We are witnessing totalitarian censorship. I’m deeply disturbed by what is happening.
Will instead get my popcorn all warmed up when the revolving door in the Whitehouse is in full operation and the likes of Musk and Vivek are then turfed out.
Looks like a lot of infighting and unrest in the cards.........LOL!!
 
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Well we do not have to salivate when there is already any beginning to show cracks in Trump's team before he has even taken office.
How about Laura Loomer? She was censored as well!!




Will instead get my popcorn all warmed up when the revolving door in the Whitehouse is in full operation and the likes of Musk and Vivek are then turfed out.
Looks like a lot of infighting and unrest in the cards.........LOL!!
Loomer shouldn't be allowed on any platforms, lol...I don't give anything she says any credit.

Vivek will stay the course...My feeling is that Elon will leave at some point in time.

Democrats are no better, don't kid yourself. Jill Biden hates Kamala. They just gloss it over better and MSM doesn't give it any ink.

And yes it's going to be an eventful 4 years
 
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IMHO, if it wasn't for Elon, Trump wouldn't have won the election, in the first place. Thanks to Elon, we don't have to put up with Kamala's "cackling laugh". for four more years......LMAO
 

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IMHO, if it wasn't for Elon, Trump wouldn't have won the election, in the first place. Thanks to Elon, we don't have to put up with Kamala's "cackling laugh". for four more years......LMAO
But I'd much rather jerk off to Kamala than to Eeeeeeelon.
 
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In reality the atomic bomb was developed by Germans and thr telephone a Canadian but don't let the morons lies distract you
I think Canadians have share the claim to fame regarding Bell. Bell was born in Scotland and didn’t come to Canada until he was 23 in 1870. He filed his patent in Washington 5 years later.
 

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Confused.
Not sure how to read this tweet.
Is it sarcastic, and means to say that white people are not hard workers?
Is it accusing Elon and Vivek of playing white identity politics?
Or is it in earnest?
If so why the focus on the "white community" as it seems advice to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and focus on hard work and education might be generally acceptable albeit tone deaf and simplistic, for anybody?
 

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Confused.
Not sure how to read this tweet.
Is it sarcastic, and means to say that white people are not hard workers?
Is it accusing Elon and Vivek of playing white identity politics?
Or is it in earnest?
If so why the focus on the "white community" as it seems advice to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and focus on hard work and education might be generally acceptable albeit tone deaf and simplistic, for anybody?
They are mocking MAGA.

Basically, MAGA supports a merit based system until the system no longer favours white people..
 
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