Freeland resigns

[WyattEarp]

yes, a functioning democracy requires a credible opposition for many reasons

If the Liberals took a shellacking, is it possible the NDP and Liberals would essentially merge? Perhaps keep the brands in certain ridings, but never run against each other.

I think someone once told me that they are not strong allies in elections, but could that change?

 

[WyattEarp]

He is feminine.

I like the French word feminique.

 

[Carvher]

If the Liberals took a shellacking, is it possible the NDP and Liberals would essentially merge. Perhaps keep the brands in certain ridings, but never run against each other.

I think someone once told me that they are not strong allies in elections, but could that change?

Anything is a possibility but most Liberal voters are not socialists. Therefore a new party would emerge to fill the void.

 

[silentkisser]

No, not the feminist Trudeau? He has a perfect record for treating women in his cabinet with respect. LOL

I know you're being facetious, but he ruined that reputation back when he fucked around on then justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould, and the condemnation of Celina Caesar-Chavannes...

Look, I'm a known Liberal supporter. But we all know that Trudeau needs to go. He just doesn't seem to understand that for some reason. And, this latest turmoil might finally be the straw that breaks the camels back...

 

[Skoob]

I know you're being facetious, but he ruined that reputation back when he fucked around on then justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould, and the condemnation of Celina Caesar-Chavannes...

Look, I'm a known Liberal supporter. But we all know that Trudeau needs to go. He just doesn't seem to understand that for some reason. And, this latest turmoil might finally be the straw that breaks the camels back...

I would tend to agree.
What Liberal supporters are seeing (or admitting to seeing) recently is what non-supporters have seen for much longer.

 

[JohnLarue]

If the Liberals took a shellacking, is it possible the NDP and Liberals would essentially merge? Perhaps keep the brands in certain ridings, but never run against each other.

I think someone once told me that they are not strong allies in elections, but could that change?

the NDP and Liberals would essentially merge ?
that is a possibility

There will always be a fraction of the electorate who will never learn and will vote left
The NDP will also take a shellacking as they propped up Trudeau for two + years
Both parties will need to rebuild and donations to their parties will dry up.

The NDP supporters (true hard core socialists) will of course not look inward , however blame the liberals for the NDPs misfortunes
They will punt Jagmeet Singh (what a disaster)
If they retain more seats than the liberals , they would look to drive the agenda , which would be an abomination for the liberals who need to take a step back towards center

So to summarize : Lumping two pieces of shit together produces a different pile of shit

It would not surprise me if the BLOC Quebec party winds up being the official opposition.
And that is not a credible opposition for the majority of Canadians.

Such a shame , that our beautiful country is so messed up politically

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Some of us who knew him longer knew he campaigned for Hamas and Hezbollah here years ago.

The problem with Frankfooter was that he was right and wrong at the same time.
He denounced Israel's war crimes, which was right.
But he considered Hamas' war crimes justified and morally correct.
No one can justify killing civilians and kidnapping babies, even if their government is doing the Palestinians dirty.
When someone pointed it out to him, he would brand them racist genocide supporters.
He would do this via trolling and putting words in people's mouth, and purposefully and deliberately misinterpreting your posts over and over and over again.
This is when he lost me and I stopped responding to his posts or reading his threads.
I am generally more on the side of the Palestinians and even I lost empathy for his point of view.
I dont think the Palestinians need an advocate like Frankfooter.

 

[mitchell76]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1869038502626853290

 

[SchlongConery]

The problem with Frankfooter was that he was right and wrong at the same time.
He denounced Israel's war crimes, which was right.
But he considered Hamas' war crimes justified and morally correct.
No one can justify killing civilians and kidnapping babies, even if their government is doing the Palestinians dirty.
When someone pointed it out to him, he would brand them racist genocide supporters.
He would do this via trolling and putting words in people's mouth, and purposefully and deliberately misinterpreting your posts over and over and over again.
This is when he lost me and I stopped responding to his posts or reading his threads.
I am generally more on the side of the Palestinians and even I lost empathy for his point of view.
I dont think the Palestinians need an advocate like Frankfooter.

You have summed up my thoughts perfectly. Thank you!

 

[mitchell76]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1868678946029813821

 

[WyattEarp]

Such a shame , that our beautiful country is so messed up politically

Trudeau's political misfortune might be a blessing for Canada. I look at politics in long cycles.

In comparison, Angela Merkel's sixteen years of adherence to complete compromise in almost all matters is now questioned within Germany. The debates are long overdue. Questioning the recent politics of compromise is a good start.

 

[WyattEarp]

Anything is a possibility but most Liberal voters are not socialists.

Clearly there is overlap. It used to be the socialists generally favored government ownership of major segments of the economy. Now the socialists not only believe large amounts of money should be redistributed, but more investment should be directed by govt. and in some sectors prices controlled. They have essentially repackaged their goals to oblige that free markets and private capital need to exist in some form.

Liberals appear to be comfortable with some of the same things, but not to the same degree. However, it's easy to slide down the slippery slope that government can fix all problems and grant everything to the population.

 

[WyattEarp]

The problem with Frankfooter was that he was right and wrong at the same time.
He denounced Israel's war crimes, which was right.
But he considered Hamas' war crimes justified and morally correct.
No one can justify killing civilians and kidnapping babies, even if their government is doing the Palestinians dirty.
When someone pointed it out to him, he would brand them racist genocide supporters.
He would do this via trolling and putting words in people's mouth, and purposefully and deliberately misinterpreting your posts over and over and over again.
This is when he lost me and I stopped responding to his posts or reading his threads.
I am generally more on the side of the Palestinians and even I lost empathy for his point of view.
I dont think the Palestinians need an advocate like Frankfooter.

Your assessment of Frank's participation as it relates to Palestine is accurate. I do also believe on almost all matters he was a Neo-Marxist.

It's funny about what you are saying about putting word in people's mouths and misinterpreting their posts over and over again. It's easy to argue with a straw man of your own creation. I experienced this with him constantly to the extreme where he would randomly respond to my posts with a non sequitur. Kind of like I found you on the forum and I'm going to tell you something.

Frankly (pun perhaps), we should all challenge the behavior of members like him even if we are sympathetic with their view.

 

[bver_hunter]

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Stick on point Mr. Disrespectful....

When have you done so Mr. Hypocritical "Policeman"?!!

 

[JohnLarue]

Trudeau's political misfortune might be a blessing for Canada. I look at politics in long cycles.

In comparison, Angela Merkel's sixteen years of adherence to complete compromise in almost all matters is now questioned within Germany. The debates are long overdue. Questioning the recent politics of compromise is a good start.

if you look at long cycles, the damage Trudeau has inflicted upon Canada will be long lasting
He ballooned the population via wide open immigration which has strained / jeopardises housing, universal health care and infrastructure
and he has made a mess of the Federal govts finances while greatly expanding (+40%) the size of the federal govt payroll head count
all of these issues will take years/ decades to fix
incredibly irresponsible

he has also divided our country east / west and polarized the left vs right politically
some how he has managed to piss everyone off

the east / west division is very troubling
the number #1 responsibility of a Prime Minster of Canada is to hold the country together and he intentionally / actively undermined the economic engine of western Canada -energy

 

[JohnLarue]

Your assessment of Frank's participation as it relates to Palestine is accurate. I do also believe on almost all matters he was a Neo-Marxist.

It's funny about what you are saying about putting word in people's mouths and misinterpreting their posts over and over again. It's easy to argue with a straw man of your own creation. I experienced this with him constantly to the extreme where he would randomly respond to my posts with a non sequitur. Kind of like I found you on the forum and I'm going to tell you something.

Frankly (pun perhaps), we should all challenge the behavior of members like him even if we are sympathetic with their view.

is frankfooter gone ? (happy days !)
Or has he reappeared with a new handle?

 

[bver_hunter]

Trump has nothing to do with this thread.

What is wrong with you? Can't you focus on Canada for two minutes?

Obviously, you righties have your feathers ruffled when Trump is included in the conversation as a comparison!!

Yet when the Thread is about Trump, why do you not voice your concerns when Trudeau is thrown into the mix by the righties??

So if you have no response, just zip up!!

 

[WyattEarp]

Obviously, you righties have your feathers ruffled when Trump is included in the conversation as a comparison!!

Yet when the Thread is about Trump, why do you not voice your concerns when Trudeau is thrown into the mix by the righties??

So if you have no response, just zip up!!

I have no idea what you're trying to reference. The Trump threads generally stay focused on Trump.

 

[mitchell76]

 

[bver_hunter]

I have no idea what you're trying to reference. The Trump threads generally stay focused on Trump.

No they do not. Obviously, you try to make those excuses for the righties violating your rules!!