Covid did come from Wuhan lab and US covered it up, landmark report finds
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Sorry but scientists get paid for discovering (proving) things that others doubt. You're just pushing the anti-science agenda. You might as well be claiming that scientists will get cancelled if they question the Earth's shape.
Key word - historically. putting JFK and Dr Oz in charge of national health put that to bed.
Other than some fringe hippie types, that is bullshit and the modern anti-vax movement has always been primarily suburban moms who are now Trump supporters.
p.s. Maybe I don't watch enough Fox News but your claims of trump campaigning on vaccines doesn't fit the reality I observed.
And Dr. Robert Malone?..Wikipedia can't even bring themselves to state his proper title.
Sorry but what does that "skeptic" have to do with your House subcommittee political report?
Mr. Malone is criticized by the scientific community because his claims don't follow scientific method and his claims about 'psychosis' is best described as his own psychosis, thinking that his small role in developing mRNA vaccines qualifies him to create psychological 'theories'. Most importantly, the vast majority of scientists CURRENTLY working in the field think he's full of shit.
Experts rate 12 vaccine claims by Robert Malone, the doctor catapulted to fame on Joe Rogan's podcast
Malone developed some of the first mRNA vaccines for mice in the 1980s. But experts say some of his claims about vaccines are not rooted in fact.
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Scientist Misleads on COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness and Vaccine Safety for Children - FactCheck.org
The approved and authorized COVID-19 vaccines in the U.S. are effective at preventing severe disease, and experts say the benefits of vaccination for children outweigh any known or potential risk. But social media users have shared video of Dr. Robert Malone misleadingly asserting that the...
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Yes, we all know in 2021 he briefly pushed covid vaccines. But you claimed he was promoting the vaccines during his reelection campaign.
Rogan offered money for someone to come on and debate him but no one stepped up...Curious don't ya think for a field that is supposed to all about being challenged.Sorry but what does that "skeptic" have to do with your House subcommittee political report?
Mr. Malone is criticized by the scientific community because his claims don't follow scientific method and his claims about 'psychosis' is best described as his own psychosis, thinking that his small role in developing mRNA vaccines qualifies him to create psychological 'theories'. Most importantly, the vast majority of scientists CURRENTLY working in the field think he's full of shit.
Experts rate 12 vaccine claims by Robert Malone, the doctor catapulted to fame on Joe Rogan's podcast
Malone developed some of the first mRNA vaccines for mice in the 1980s. But experts say some of his claims about vaccines are not rooted in fact.Scientist Misleads on COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness and Vaccine Safety for Children - FactCheck.org
The approved and authorized COVID-19 vaccines in the U.S. are effective at preventing severe disease, and experts say the benefits of vaccination for children outweigh any known or potential risk. But social media users have shared video of Dr. Robert Malone misleadingly asserting that the...
Your argument is that he must be right because actual scientists aren't willing to go on some podcast?
Sorry but Malone's claims are downright nutty and he has profited on pushing the idea of some world conspiracy. Again, scientists have scientific evidence of that Malone's scientific claims are wrong and the rest is just his nutty opinion on conspiracy topics.
Scientists debate topics by publishing research, not spouting off about new world orders on podcasts.
Pentagon was told SIX times that Covid was lab leak at start of pandemic – but buried the truth, ex-intel official says
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US military chiefs 'told SIX times Covid was lab leak at start of pandemic'
US military chiefs were repeatedly told that Covid was a lab leak at the start of the pandemic, a former Pentagon official has revealed. Jon Myers, who was a Marine Corps officer for 28 years …
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Nonsense coming from Republican lead investigations, total nonsense and bullshit to bolster their cult leader's theories.Pentagon was told SIX times that Covid was lab leak at start of pandemic – but buried the truth, ex-intel official says
US military chiefs 'told SIX times Covid was lab leak at start of pandemic'
US military chiefs were repeatedly told that Covid was a lab leak at the start of the pandemic, a former Pentagon official has revealed. Jon Myers, who was a Marine Corps officer for 28 years …
News: Lab Leak or Not? How Politics Shaped... (The New York Times) - Behind the headlines - NLM
(The New York Times) Lab Leak or Not? How Politics Shaped the Battle Over Covid’s Origin. Associated research findings from the National Library of Medicine.
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A lab leak was once dismissed by many as a conspiracy theory. But the idea is gaining traction, even as evidence builds that the virus emerged from a market.
Only stupid people at this point still wont accept it came from a labNonsense coming from Republican lead investigations, total nonsense and bullshit to bolster their cult leader's theories.
News: Lab Leak or Not? How Politics Shaped... (The New York Times) - Behind the headlines - NLM
(The New York Times) Lab Leak or Not? How Politics Shaped the Battle Over Covid’s Origin. Associated research findings from the National Library of Medicine.
A lab leak was once dismissed by many as a conspiracy theory. But the idea is gaining traction, even as evidence builds that the virus emerged from a market.
Anyone with half a brain and the ability to use it knows it came from that lab.
I must admit the level of argumentation in a public sphere is beyond polluted.
How about looking at the evidence, VS looking at what people say on podcasts or on twitter?
It seems the public is being slowly gassed to unconsciousness by the amount of "opinions" absents documented facts.
The west dies if decisions are driven by podcast.
How about looking at the evidence, VS looking at what people say on podcasts or on twitter?
It seems the public is being slowly gassed to unconsciousness by the amount of "opinions" absents documented facts.
The west dies if decisions are driven by podcast.
Only folks who think it is surely and positively from a lab leak are the dumbasses who believe they are better equipped than the researchers and people actually in the field will accept blindly that it came from a lab leak. You know, the folks who think vaccines don't work, masks don't work, the "do your own research" crowd who are happy to drink bleach and inject light through the body.
This rings to the sound of the right wing think tanks that Irving Kristol et al helped to found and tout back in the 60s. These came about after economists realized that supply side economics didn't work, but the rich guys still loved it.
These think tanks began to put out their research supporting supply side/trickle down and when Kristol was asked "how can opinion pieces from the think tanks compete with and defeat scientifically derived, peer reviewed scholarship that disagrees?" He supposedly said "we don't need to win the argument. We only need to confuse people."
And so it goes.
These think tanks began to put out their research supporting supply side/trickle down and when Kristol was asked "how can opinion pieces from the think tanks compete with and defeat scientifically derived, peer reviewed scholarship that disagrees?" He supposedly said "we don't need to win the argument. We only need to confuse people."
And so it goes.
I firmly believe vaccines, masks during the pandemics, lockfowns etc were are good things. I also believe it was a lab leak. The lab was sited twice for poor and shoddy quarantine practices and poor personnel performance.
More importantly I think people give too much altruistic credit to the scientists in pharma. They CEOs have way too much control and pay governments and media to let them do as they please. Fauci had financial interests in this. And gain of function research, if it had been reported as the cause would have caused the public to lose it. And call for it's banning. There was a huge financial incentive to craft this narrative.
The shut down of lab leak talk bordered on hysterical at the time. No investigation was really allowed to look into it. The Chinese govt locked down the lab. The press asked no questions. And discouraged any sort public discourse. It very much reminded me of WMDs in Iraq.
Yes I trust science. I don't trust CEOs, stock holder politicians, and media with large pharma advertisers. And neither should you.
The fact is that the majority of the science community believes that the virus emerged from the wet markets as other viruses have in the past. It is only the right-wing groups trying to blame it on the lab to further go after Fauci and health organizations. It's disgusting yet you also fall for it hook line and sinker. Fauci, a professional who served for many presidents of all stripes yet entered the Trump admin and now is painted like a criminal because he dared go against the Big Mac eating orange-tinted shitstain.
