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Because why the hell would they waste a spot on an international when they can get an elite tier born and brought up Canadian to fill the same spot with infinitely better mastery of English and less incentive to leave to the US for money. They only let the Saudis in cause the benefit outweighed the cost. There is no benefit in giving the most coveted degrees to international students. Each doctor once they’re done with residency has had a government investment of more than 7 figures invested into them.

who in their right mind would let an international student who doesn’t speak English as good as a Canadian hold a million dollars worth of tax payer money?
Yup, limited spots and our homegrown talent is already in the 99th percentile in academics.
 
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Well, I am aware that Canadian med schools do not allow any international student in.
Indian or otherwise regardless of how competitive they are.
They only allow permanent residents and citizens in.
But that is why am asking the question.
On the one hand we have shortage of doctors.
So what is the reasoning behind not allowing international students into Canadian med schools?
Try picture this scenario.

A medical school is to admit 100 qualified applicants into its
1st year class. As we have a shortage of doctors our government
suggests the school to increase the number of students accepted.
In response the school increases enrolment from 100 to 110 upon
receiving additional grants for extra facilities and teaching
staff. Now the school can easily select 10 of the most qualified students
below the top 100 already accepted to bring the size of the 1st year
class to the limit it can manage without making compromise on quality
of teaching and training. But someone suggests bringing in foreign
students to relieve our shortage of medical doctors.

For the medical school to admit 10 foreign students would
mean it has to reject the extra 10 qualified local students. You
may suggest acceptance of those foreign students has merit
provided that they are more qualified than those 10 local students.
But you also have to note that in the end it won't make difference
in the supply of doctors. And you can also be assured that the
next batch of 100 students in the pool of applicants not accepted
are just as good to become future doctors if not for the limited
spaces in medical schools.
 

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Try picture this scenario.

A medical school is to admit 100 qualified applicants into its
1st year class. As we have a shortage of doctors our government
suggests the school to increase the number of students accepted.
In response the school increases enrolment from 100 to 110 upon
receiving additional grants for extra facilities and teaching
staff. Now the school can easily select 10 of the most qualified students
below the top 100 already accepted to bring the size of the 1st year
class to the limit it can manage without making compromise on quality
of teaching and training. But someone suggests bringing in foreign
students to relieve our shortage of medical doctors.

For the medical school to admit 10 foreign students would
mean it has to reject the extra 10 qualified local students. You
may suggest acceptance of those foreign students has merit
provided that they are more qualified than those 10 local students.
But you also have to note that in the end it won't make difference
in the supply of doctors. And you can also be assured that the
next batch of 100 students in the pool of applicants not accepted
are just as good to become future doctors if not for the limited
spaces in medical schools.
I get that.
But I think a better explanation was by Dr. Hansen.
If we are spending 7 figures on a student, then we want that student to become a Canadian doctor.
Not relocate to the US for more money.
It makes sense to prioritize Canadian residents in this case, especially when it is so competitive.
 

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The younger physicians often want a “ work life balance“ and refuse to do the grunt work as physicians did in the past.
The younger cohort wants to work 9-5 Monday to Friday, weekends off and must have this lifestyle immediately after graduation, often leaving the older physicians to do the around the clock work which is essential for proper and conscientious healthcare.
Eventually foreign trained physicians will probably have to be brought in, they will have a work ethic now foreign to many recently graduated physician who now shun family practice and feel a sense of entitlement to have copious leisure to the detriment of the public.
 
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The younger physicians often want a “ work life balance“ and refuse to do the grunt work as physicians did in the past.
The younger cohort wants to work 9-5 Monday to Friday, weekends off and must have this lifestyle immediately after graduation, often leaving the older physicians to do the around the clock work which is essential for proper and conscientious healthcare.
Eventually foreign trained physicians will probably have to be brought in, they will have a work ethic now foreign to many recently graduated physician who now shun family practice and feel a sense of entitlement to have copious leisure to the detriment of the public.
You a doc too? I’ll agree, they’re fucking lazy now, they don’t give a shit about pride in their work. All they want is derm ophtho and plastics. You take away the ridiculous wage from a Canadian doc and watch the way they run to telemedicine and concierge. No pride left in the profession in most countries. it’s all just a money making game to them. Something like 80 percent of docs in South Korea left their residency spots cause the government opened more med school spots (lowering their demand….lower salary). Pure selfishness

it’s why I became a doc in japan, yeah you can make a cool 300-400k a year there if you just run nonsense beauty clinic shit but every real doc there is going to look at you like the shit stain you are. The real ones are out there doing real work, training like their life depends on it because others lives depend on it. Over there the doctors who serve the people are the seen as the ones who are to be revered the most bysociety, not silly derm clinics
 

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The low wage TFW brings a massive amount of low skilled people.
I think we should terminate that program and instead focus on highly skilled immigrants.
Raising wages will help employ Canadians.
Right now businesses are misusing the program.
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This is ridiculous. Retail places that used to have Hundreds of percent more staff Have replaced workers with Mechanical Computerized checkouts. Whole restaurant chains in the United States are switching over to Robotic waiters Robotic cooks. Couple novelty cooks Robots are in Toronto now. Within 5 years we're not gonna need any of these low wage workers And in fact will be trying to figure out what to do with all our useless Canadian workers.
 

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You a doc too? I’ll agree, they’re fucking lazy now, they don’t give a shit about pride in their work. All they want is derm ophtho and plastics. You take away the ridiculous wage from a Canadian doc and watch the way they run to telemedicine and concierge. No pride left in the profession in most countries. it’s all just a money making game to them. Something like 80 percent of docs in South Korea left their residency spots cause the government opened more med school spots (lowering their demand….lower salary). Pure selfishness

it’s why I became a doc in japan, yeah you can make a cool 300-400k a year there if you just run nonsense beauty clinic shit but every real doc there is going to look at you like the shit stain you are. The real ones are out there doing real work, training like their life depends on it because others lives depend on it. Over there the doctors who serve the people are the seen as the ones who are to be revered the most bysociety, not silly derm clinics
What part of japan did you work in?
 

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Actually this phenomenon of photo taking Is all through Asia. And it's not just restricted to women. Multiculturalism Is unique To the west ... I've been asked to take my picture In dozens of country Many many times.

That being said The culture of many countries is totally incompatible Because of sexism and racism With the Canadian experience. When immigration is small enough There Is a natural shift to the Canadian western side of values. On the extreme side I've personally known women his family have tried to kill them For honor killings. thzt s dating before marriage. Obviously Some people want the benefits Of western civilization In Canada in particular Put others just wanna paycheck And keep They are racist and sexist Values intact.

My own family went through this transition of lets say bad habits, As I'm sure is the majority of people. But the good habits have to be Promoted And in the majority For this transition to happen.
 
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What do you mean "that is how it is now"? And what is "it is the country producing the most immigrants" supposed to mean?

There are billions of people worldwide outside of India that are ready to immigrate to Canada.

Canada specifically admits more immigrants from India than elsewhere.

What is the reason?
India is a Commonwealth country with people that recently poured into Canada speaking English which is more grammatically correct and are more highly educated than the average Canada. Canada schools no longer teach grammar. India has an endless supply of young people ready to immigrate to Canada and do temporary jobs that Canadians cannot or will not do. Many of these Indian students are in dead end often bogus educational programs because they were promised PR and eventually citizenship by the Trudeau government upon graduation. These Indian students upon getting Canadian citizenship might be allowed to bring their parents over down the road which is why the parents funded their kids relocation to Canada.
In 2023, Indians brought 11 billion dollars into Canada and perforned ~ 300,000 jobs that Canadians couldn’t or wouldn’t do

If not India, then which other country meets this criteria?

China was the main source of immigration previously but the Chinese students were often from wealthy families and would not or could not do the low wage jobs or skilled even skilled jobs required by Canadian industry. Further more Canada is now viewed as an expensive and unproductive, unprogressive place to live, so many Chinese students have left and fewer and fewer are even considering Canada.

Canada cannot attract people from the UK who are similar to “ old stock “ Canadians anymore, or MAGA types, Australians, New Zealanders or white South Africans , groups which many in Canada would accept. Quebec is an unthinkable backwater for immigration for “ old stock” people from France.

As for assimilation, the Canadian diaspora is ill defined with the name Mohammad being the most common name for baby boys born in Toronto for a couple years now and there are more baby girls born with the name Fatima than Mary or Susan combined in Ontatrio now.

The “ old stock” Canadians are not reproducing enough and not performing jobs necessary to sustain Canada going forward which is the reason why the Trudeau government sourced India.
 

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India is a Commonwealth country with people that recently poured into Canada speaking English which is more grammatically correct and are more highly educated than the average Canada. Canada schools no longer teach grammar. India has an endless supply of young people ready to immigrate to Canada and do temporary jobs that Canadians cannot or will not do. Many of these Indian students are in dead end often bogus educational programs because they were promised PR and eventually citizenship by the Trudeau government upon graduation. These Indian students upon getting Canadian citizenship might be allowed to bring their parents over down the road which is why the parents funded their kids relocation to Canada.
In 2023, Indians brought 11 billion dollars into Canada and perforned ~ 300,000 jobs that Canadians couldn’t or wouldn’t do

If not India, then which other country meets this criteria?

China was the main source of immigration previously but the Chinese students were often from wealthy families and would not or could not do the low wage jobs or skilled even skilled jobs required by Canadian industry. Further more Canada is now viewed as an expensive and unproductive, unprogressive place to live, so many Chinese students have left and fewer and fewer are even considering Canada.

Canada cannot attract people from the UK who are similar to “ old stock “ Canadians anymore, or MAGA types, Australians, New Zealanders or white South Africans , groups which many in Canada would accept. Quebec is an unthinkable backwater for immigration for “ old stock” people from France.

As for assimilation, the Canadian diaspora is ill defined with the name Mohammad being the most common name for baby boys born in Toronto for a couple years now and there are more baby girls born with the name Fatima than Mary or Susan combined in Ontatrio now.

The “ old stock” Canadians are not reproducing enough and not performing jobs necessary to sustain Canada going forward which is the reason why the Trudeau government sourced India.
This is false. I suppose if rewritten It's true for some of the population.
Also true for some of the population is the fact that Canadians are suckers. That they milk the system.
An example of this or the YouTube videos showing that food is free In Canada. That you can just go to a food bank and they give you free food You don't have to pay for food. These are people who are working and making good money and come from rich families themselves. Food banks have since changed their policy Which was never necessary before To make food bags Hard to access Because of this abuse. Canadians generous nature As seen as a easy way to Steal from. As mentioned before you can get a fake ° no problem. Canadian Never occur to them but you can create a false credential.. And then get a job with it.

Another part of the story to be fair Is that Indian fraudsters Trick Indians to coming here And make money off it. This is where we get the 10 cities of Indians living In parks. Promised Ridiculously easy lives They were tricked An hour forced t To do jobs they don't want to do.

There are many other aspects to this equation
 

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This is false. I suppose if rewritten It's true for some of the population.……

Another part of the story to be fair Is that Indian fraudsters Trick Indians to coming here And make money off it. This is where we get the 10 cities of Indians living In parks. Promised Ridiculously easy lives They were tricked An hour forced t To do jobs they don't want to do.

There are many other aspects to this equation
Indians that just came to Canada are not the ones living in the parks. The tent cities ( “10” ??) are occupied by people born in Canada not immigrants.
 
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In 2023, Indians brought 11 billion dollars into Canada and perforned ~ 300,000 jobs that Canadians couldn’t or wouldn’t do
This is false. Working at Tim Hortons and other service jobs is something Canadians did long before mass migration from India.

In the last 5 years Canadians no longer can or won't do these jobs?

Nonsense. Canadians apply, but don't get hired anymore.

If not India, then which other country meets this criteria?
More than I can count on my fingers.

China was the main source of immigration previously but the Chinese students were often from wealthy families and would not or could not do the low wage jobs or skilled even skilled jobs required by Canadian industry. Further more Canada is now viewed as an expensive and unproductive, unprogressive place to live, so many Chinese students have left and fewer and fewer are even considering Canada.
I believe they're still the second largest annual immigrant group.

Canada cannot attract people from the UK who are similar to “ old stock “ Canadians anymore, or MAGA types, Australians, New Zealanders or white South Africans , groups which many in Canada would accept. Quebec is an unthinkable backwater for immigration for “ old stock” people from France.
There are millions of people from all across Europe, Africa, South America, and Asia that fit your criteria - bilingual and ready to work.

As for assimilation, the Canadian diaspora is ill defined with the name Mohammad being the most common name for baby boys born in Toronto for a couple years now and there are more baby girls born with the name Fatima than Mary or Susan combined in Ontatrio now.
Trudeau's Canada.
 
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This is false. Working at Tim Hortons and other service jobs is something Canadians did long before mass migration from India.

In the last 5 years Canadians no longer can or won't do these jobs?

Nonsense. Canadians apply, but don't get hired anymore.



More than I can count on my fingers.



I believe they're still the second largest annual immigrant group.



There are millions of people from all across Europe, Africa, South America, and Asia that fit your criteria - bilingual and ready to work.



Trudeau's Canada.
Trudeau’s Canada is also yours and mine.

Africa and Europe might have bilingual people from the former French colonies who might want to come here but South America and Asia don’t have any bilinguals for the most part and no they don’t meet Canada industry requirements anyway. Quebec has it‘s own immigration policies and also cannot satisfy their industry requirements and their population is dropping the fastest provincially.

How many fingers have you got , name some countries please, other than India .

So Canadians are applying to Tim Horton’s et al. and not getting hired eh! Where then do these Canadians go ? Do they go on social services and / or , are too drugged out to work ? Do you support the tent cities and encampments, no immigrants in there, only able bodied Canadians and who feeds and gives cash to these Canadians for alcohol, smokes, their illicit drugs and toilet paper.?
Many of the young cohort of Canadians lack any semblance of work ethic. unlike the stalwarts who built Canada .
 

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Trudeau’s Canada is also yours and mine.

Africa and Europe might have bilingual people from the former French colonies who might want to come here but South America and Asia don’t have any bilinguals for the most part and no they don’t meet Canada industry requirements anyway. Quebec has it‘s own immigration policies and also cannot satisfy their industry requirements and their population is dropping the fastest provincially.

How many fingers have you got , name some countries please, other than India .

So Canadians are applying to Tim Horton’s et al. and not getting hired eh! Where then do these Canadians go ? Do they go on social services and / or , are too drugged out to work ? Do you support the tent cities and encampments, no immigrants in there, only able bodied Canadians and who feeds and gives cash to these Canadians for alcohol, smokes, their illicit drugs and toilet paper.?
Many of the young cohort of Canadians lack any semblance of work ethic. unlike the stalwarts who built Canada .
That. And also apparently Timmy's gets government funding to hire immigrants. Government pays their wages for the first six months. At which point they go on their way and make way for the next batch. I haven't researched this entirely because I don't really care. But it used to be Timmy's was a Philippine enclave until one morning I noticed the entire staff had switched to East Indian. Something probably going on there.
 

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The truckers were white supremacist losers who used terrorist tactics to blockade and cut off traffic in Ottawa for three weeks
In today’s Canada, the Islamist are now more numerous than the trucker terrorist.
The most common name for baby boys born in Toronto in the past three years was Mohamed, little boys that are Canadian citizens just like the truckers who are not reproducing and will soon become extinct or replaced.
Ontario now has more truckers of Indian descent than all the truckers from the Western provinces combined.
youre a lib cuck bro. thats called a peaceful protest and those truckers are true canadian patriots. the islamists are a meaningful threat to canadian democracy and canadian people writ large, as history has shown, it starts with the jews, ends with everyone else. the liberal goverment has seized on the opportunity to harness power by allowing floodgates of arab refugees and terrorists into the country under the guise of woke ideologys.

the truckers protested massively unfair laws and regulations, they did so completely peacefully, remember, there is no law against driving your truck or parking it on a city street. the islamists and anti semites have taken over private property, destroyed private property, terrorized innocent civilians, there is absolutely no comparison.
 

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youre a lib cuck bro. thats called a peaceful protest and those truckers are true canadian patriots. the islamists are a meaningful threat to canadian democracy and canadian people writ large, as history has shown, it starts with the jews, ends with everyone else. the liberal goverment has seized on the opportunity to harness power by allowing floodgates of arab refugees and terrorists into the country under the guise of woke ideologys.

the truckers protested massively unfair laws and regulations, they did so completely peacefully, remember, there is no law against driving your truck or parking it on a city street. the islamists and anti semites have taken over private property, destroyed private property, terrorized innocent civilians, there is absolutely no comparison.
The Convoy organizers should have been tried for treason and executed already.
 
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