Syrian Christians fear massacre at hands of Sunni insurgent groups

[Frankfooter]

Send more aid to Israel. It's usually money well spent.

Nah, now Israel is funding Al Qaeda/HTS in Syria to try to take down Russian and Iranian influence.
Its as idiotic as both the US and USSR trying to take over Afghanistan.
If they succeed all they do is put Turkey, Saudi and Sunni extremists in power next to them.

Syrian army readies counterattack against Al-Qaeda militants occupying Aleppo

Turkish and Israeli-backed militants from the Al-Qaeda affilated Hayat Tahrir al-Sham have taken over large areas of Aleppo, Syria's second largest city, including the ancient citadel

thecradle.co

The prospect of the fall of Baathist Syria, however, is not without peril for these same countries, if al-Qaeda-adjacent forces come out on top. Would a wave of fundamentalist fervor in the region really benefit the bon vivant Mohammed Bin Salman of Saudi Arabia? Will the 800 US troops at Tanf in southeast Syria be threatened by the victorious HTS, given that those troops are in part a support for the leftist Kurds of Syria’s northeast that have fought it on many occasions?

Indeed, if the Jabhat al-Nusra or Succor Front, an al-Qaeda offshoot, comes out on top in the new power struggle, even Turkey may come to regret these events. Erdogan has consistently underestimated the danger of groups such as HTS and ISIL, which have their origins in al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia and which split from one another in 2012. Despite its insouciance Turkey has been hit by ISIL bombings on several occasions.

And, will Sunni fundamentalist militias marching into Damascus really be a good thing for the current extremist government of Israel, engaged in a genocidal campaign against Gaza that is justified as an attempt to exterminate Sunni fundamentalist militias? The far right Likud Party’s theory that chaos in its neighbors is good for Israel may be tested.

 

[Frankfooter]

I agree its horrible for the Christians, although both choices are bad, I would pick Assad over a Taliban state run by Muslim extremists.

Israel has killed more Christians in Lebanon and Palestine than anyone else late of late.

 

[Vinson]

Christians are wiped out in most Muslim countries. That's what they're doing in Nigeria. Arabia has no churches.

Allah Akbar !!!! 72 virgins. To be confirmed.



Syrian rebel leader 'is killed in Russian airstrike' after his forces seized Aleppo and marched on Damascus threatening dictator's regime

A Syrian rebel leader may have been killed in a Russian airstrike on a terrorist hideout after his forces seized Aleppo in a shock offensive, local media has reported.

Abu Mohammad al-Julani, the current commander-in-chief of the Hay'at Tahrir al-Shamgroup, is understood to have been inside the building at the time of the attack.

Syrian newspaper Al-Watan reported that a tight security cordon has reportedly been place around the organisation's headquarters - but whether Al-Julani's has been killed or not is yet to be confirmed.

The terrorist is one of the most prominent leaders of the armed factions that have been engaged in battles with the Syrian army and he has a £7.9m bounty on his head.

It comes after President Assad's forces warned in a statement on Saturday that they had redeployed and were planning a counterattack.

Meanwhile, Israel is said to be preparing for a scenario where it would need to act if the situation deteriorates.

Intelligence chiefs have reportedly told Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu 'the collapse of the Assad regime would likely create chaos in which military threats against Israel would develop.'

Al Qaeda-linked rebels advanced south towards Damascus on Saturday, a day after they captured Aleppo with little resistance from government troops.

The insurgents seized Aleppo airport and dozens of nearby towns on Saturday after overrunning most of the city, a war monitor said.

Damascus-ally Moscow responded with its first air strikes on Aleppo since 2016 as the jihadists and their Turkish-backed allies pressed a lightning offensive they launched on Wednesday as a ceasefire took effect in neighbouring Lebanon.

The rebels are understood to be moving towards Damascus, with unconfirmed reports of shootings in the outskirts of the city, as rumours of a coup on al-Assad's regime swirling.

The swift and surprise offensive is a huge embarrassment for Syria's President Bashar Assad and raised questions about his armed forces' preparedness.

The insurgent offensive launched from their stronghold in the country's northwest appeared to have been planned for years.

Lieutenant General Sergey Kisel, who commands the Russian forces in Syria, has allegedly been removed from his post following the rebel storm on Aleppo.

'What you find is that whenever things start to go wrong, they will start to round on the leaders and start the blame game,' Colonel Philip Ingram, a former British Army intelligence officer, told MailOnline.

'One of the indications of it going very badly wrong is whenever you get reports coming out of generals being sacked. If this shows how concerned Putin is with everything, it's quite clear that the Syrians and Russians that are backing them have been caught off guard.'

He added: 'It is a typical response from dictatorships to deny that there's any problem that's going on when the complete opposite is out in the public domain. Again, it suggests that things for the Assad regime are in a very bad position.'

The fighting has killed at least 327 people, most of them combatants but also including 44 civilians, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

'Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and allied factions... took control of most of the city and government centres and prisons without meeting great resistance,' the UK-based war monitor said.

They also overran Aleppo airport after government forces withdrew, and took control of 'dozens of strategic towns without any resistance', it added.

Al Qaeda-linked rebel leader 'blown to pieces in Russian strike'

Abu Mohammad al-Julani, the current commander-in-chief of the Hay'at Tahrir al-Shamgroup, is understood to have been inside the building at the time of the attack and may have been killed.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Frankfooter]

Christians are wiped out in most Muslim countries. That's what they're doing in Nigeria. Arabia has no churches.

Allah Akbar !!!! 72 virgins. To be confirmed.



Syrian rebel leader 'is killed in Russian airstrike' after his forces seized Aleppo and marched on Damascus threatening dictator's regime

A Syrian rebel leader may have been killed in a Russian airstrike on a terrorist hideout after his forces seized Aleppo in a shock offensive, local media has reported.

Abu Mohammad al-Julani, the current commander-in-chief of the Hay'at Tahrir al-Shamgroup, is understood to have been inside the building at the time of the attack.

Syrian newspaper Al-Watan reported that a tight security cordon has reportedly been place around the organisation's headquarters - but whether Al-Julani's has been killed or not is yet to be confirmed.

The terrorist is one of the most prominent leaders of the armed factions that have been engaged in battles with the Syrian army and he has a £7.9m bounty on his head.

It comes after President Assad's forces warned in a statement on Saturday that they had redeployed and were planning a counterattack.

Meanwhile, Israel is said to be preparing for a scenario where it would need to act if the situation deteriorates.

Intelligence chiefs have reportedly told Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu 'the collapse of the Assad regime would likely create chaos in which military threats against Israel would develop.'

Al Qaeda-linked rebels advanced south towards Damascus on Saturday, a day after they captured Aleppo with little resistance from government troops.

The insurgents seized Aleppo airport and dozens of nearby towns on Saturday after overrunning most of the city, a war monitor said.

Damascus-ally Moscow responded with its first air strikes on Aleppo since 2016 as the jihadists and their Turkish-backed allies pressed a lightning offensive they launched on Wednesday as a ceasefire took effect in neighbouring Lebanon.

The rebels are understood to be moving towards Damascus, with unconfirmed reports of shootings in the outskirts of the city, as rumours of a coup on al-Assad's regime swirling.

The swift and surprise offensive is a huge embarrassment for Syria's President Bashar Assad and raised questions about his armed forces' preparedness.

The insurgent offensive launched from their stronghold in the country's northwest appeared to have been planned for years.

Lieutenant General Sergey Kisel, who commands the Russian forces in Syria, has allegedly been removed from his post following the rebel storm on Aleppo.

'What you find is that whenever things start to go wrong, they will start to round on the leaders and start the blame game,' Colonel Philip Ingram, a former British Army intelligence officer, told MailOnline.

'One of the indications of it going very badly wrong is whenever you get reports coming out of generals being sacked. If this shows how concerned Putin is with everything, it's quite clear that the Syrians and Russians that are backing them have been caught off guard.'

He added: 'It is a typical response from dictatorships to deny that there's any problem that's going on when the complete opposite is out in the public domain. Again, it suggests that things for the Assad regime are in a very bad position.'

The fighting has killed at least 327 people, most of them combatants but also including 44 civilians, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

'Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and allied factions... took control of most of the city and government centres and prisons without meeting great resistance,' the UK-based war monitor said.

They also overran Aleppo airport after government forces withdrew, and took control of 'dozens of strategic towns without any resistance', it added.

Al Qaeda-linked rebel leader 'blown to pieces in Russian strike'

Abu Mohammad al-Julani, the current commander-in-chief of the Hay'at Tahrir al-Shamgroup, is understood to have been inside the building at the time of the attack and may have been killed.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I thought you were backing the Israeli armed rebels?
Now you're siding with Russia?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1862892540313088309

 

[Klatuu]

I thought you were backing the Israeli armed rebels?
Now you're siding with Russia?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1862892540313088309

That made laugh. Guys like Vin don’t know up from down. All they know is Islamophobia.

 

[Leimonis]

That made laugh. Guys like Vin don’t know up from down. All they know is Islamophobia.

In a cruel modern world where innocents often suffer what could bring us more happiness and joy than when one group of Islamists is killing another?

 

[Frankfooter]

In a cruel modern world where innocents often suffer what could bring us more happiness and joy than when one group of Islamists is killing another?

Muslims being killed brings you 'happiness and joy'?
(assuming your lack of differentiation between Muslim Palestinian civilians and Hamas also applies to Muslims elsewhere)

Hey, since this is a thread about Christians, why don't we hear from their leader.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1824704097536086289

 

[Leimonis]

Muslims being killed brings you 'happiness and joy'?

The terms “Muslim” and “Islamist” are distinct and have different meanings, though they are often confused. Here’s a breakdown:

1. Muslim

• Definition: A Muslim is someone who follows the religion of Islam.
• Context: It refers to an individual’s religious identity. Muslims practice the Five Pillars of Islam, which include belief in one God, prayer, fasting during Ramadan, giving to charity, and performing Hajj (pilgrimage).
• Diversity: Muslims can be of any nationality, ethnicity, or political ideology. They may also vary in how they interpret and practice their faith.

2. Islamist

• Definition: An Islamist is someone who advocates for Islam to be a guiding political and social force, often emphasizing the implementation of Islamic laws and governance.
• Context: The term is associated with a political ideology rather than just religious practice. Islamists believe in integrating Islam into public life, governance, and legal systems.
• Range of Views: Islamism spans a wide spectrum:
• Moderate Islamists: Advocate for democratic systems guided by Islamic principles.
• Extremist Islamists: Advocate for rigid interpretations of Islamic law and may resort to violence to achieve their goals (e.g., groups like ISIS or Al-Qaeda).

Not all Muslims are Islamists All Islamists identify as Muslim but advocate for specific political goals

It’s important to avoid generalizing or conflating the terms, as not all Muslims support Islamist ideologies, and many actively oppose them.

 

[Frankfooter]

The terms “Muslim” and “Islamist” are distinct and have different meanings, though they are often confused. Here’s a breakdown:

1. Muslim

• Definition: A Muslim is someone who follows the religion of Islam.
• Context: It refers to an individual’s religious identity. Muslims practice the Five Pillars of Islam, which include belief in one God, prayer, fasting during Ramadan, giving to charity, and performing Hajj (pilgrimage).
• Diversity: Muslims can be of any nationality, ethnicity, or political ideology. They may also vary in how they interpret and practice their faith.

2. Islamist

• Definition: An Islamist is someone who advocates for Islam to be a guiding political and social force, often emphasizing the implementation of Islamic laws and governance.
• Context: The term is associated with a political ideology rather than just religious practice. Islamists believe in integrating Islam into public life, governance, and legal systems.
• Range of Views: Islamism spans a wide spectrum:
• Moderate Islamists: Advocate for democratic systems guided by Islamic principles.
• Extremist Islamists: Advocate for rigid interpretations of Islamic law and may resort to violence to achieve their goals (e.g., groups like ISIS or Al-Qaeda).

Not all Muslims are Islamists All Islamists identify as Muslim but advocate for specific political goals

It’s important to avoid generalizing or conflating the terms, as not all Muslims support Islamist ideologies, and many actively oppose them.

What next, you gonna declare that not all Jews are zionists?
So how do you tell which ones are not Islamists so they don't get killed when you send in those US funded weapons?
Why do I think its the same process you use for deciding which Palestinians are civilians?

 

[Klatuu]

The terms “Muslim” and “Islamist” are distinct and have different meanings, though they are often confused. Here’s a breakdown:

1. Muslim

• Definition: A Muslim is someone who follows the religion of Islam.
• Context: It refers to an individual’s religious identity. Muslims practice the Five Pillars of Islam, which include belief in one God, prayer, fasting during Ramadan, giving to charity, and performing Hajj (pilgrimage).
• Diversity: Muslims can be of any nationality, ethnicity, or political ideology. They may also vary in how they interpret and practice their faith.

2. Islamist

• Definition: An Islamist is someone who advocates for Islam to be a guiding political and social force, often emphasizing the implementation of Islamic laws and governance.
• Context: The term is associated with a political ideology rather than just religious practice. Islamists believe in integrating Islam into public life, governance, and legal systems.
• Range of Views: Islamism spans a wide spectrum:
• Moderate Islamists: Advocate for democratic systems guided by Islamic principles.
• Extremist Islamists: Advocate for rigid interpretations of Islamic law and may resort to violence to achieve their goals (e.g., groups like ISIS or Al-Qaeda).

Not all Muslims are Islamists All Islamists identify as Muslim but advocate for specific political goals

It’s important to avoid generalizing or conflating the terms, as not all Muslims support Islamist ideologies, and many actively oppose them.

So, you know there is a difference between Jews and Zionists. Your description of Islamists is virtually identical to the range of Zionists.

 

[Leimonis]

So, you know there is a difference between Jews and Zionists. Your description of Islamists is virtually identical to the range of Zionists.

That’s why it’s particularly pleasurable to note that Zionists are not killing each other while islamists do.

 

[southpaw]

But you're always talking about Israel, don't say you don't want to be involved with foreign conflicts.

How do you get out of a problem without talking about it? The first step is to admit the problem exists.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Muslims being killed brings you 'happiness and joy'?

This is why you lose people here.
He clearly said "Islamists".
Yet you misinterpret his post to say that he meant Muslims.
He is talking about the terrorists.
The terrorists may be Muslims but they slaughter other Muslims too.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

So, you know there is a difference between Jews and Zionists. Your description of Islamists is virtually identical to the range of Zionists.

I think most Jews of the world would and do support Israel.
That would make them Zionist by definition.
Not all Zionists are racist people.
They could be patriotic towards their country while also being accepting of others.

 

[Frankfooter]

This is why you lose people here.
He clearly said "Islamists".
Yet you misinterpret his post to say that he meant Muslims.
He is talking about the terrorists.
The terrorists may be Muslims but they slaughter other Muslims too.

I'd totally agree with you if he didn't have a history of refusing to distinguish between civilians and Hamas in Palestine.
But its a fair point, I should make that distinction before the accusation.

 

[Klatuu]

That’s why it’s particularly pleasurable to note that Zionists are not killing each other while islamists do.

That’s coming soon. In the meantime they kill, maim, rape, ethnically cleanse Palestinians - both Christian and Muslim - in the service of Zionism.

 

[Frankfooter]

That’s coming soon. In the meantime they kill, maim, rape, ethnically cleanse Palestinians - both Christian and Muslim - in the service of Zionism.

Its there a bit already.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719752311684071469

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1860279682932855079

 

[Klatuu]

I think most Jews of the world would and do support Israel.
That would make them Zionist by definition.
Not all Zionists are racist people.
They could be patriotic towards their country while also being accepting of others.

If they are Zionist, they are racist. It’s a supremacist ideology.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

If they are Zionist, they are racist. It’s a supremacist ideology.

You'd be calling any Israeli patriot a racist if that were true.

 

[Leimonis]

That’s coming soon. In the meantime they kill, maim, rape, ethnically cleanse Palestinians - both Christian and Muslim - in the service of Zionism.

Ahaha wet dreams are coming soon? In the meantime let’s enjoy real life