The Cease Fire In Lebanon

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The topic of this thread is the war in Lebanon. I was pointing out how Hezbollah's commitment to fellow Islamists Hamas resulted in them greatly increasing the number of missiles that they launched into N. Israel, but now they seem to have lost their resolve and seem to be no longer committed as, for now, they're willing to abide by the ceasefire. And, BTW, that ceasefire requires them to retreat north of some river approximately 30 miles and will be policed by the Lebanese military.

It seems that, on top of reneging on their commitment to their supposed ally Hamas, (obviously the U.S. and Israel have a better understanding of what a true alliance means) they got their asses spanked in this deal. And furthermore, many Israeli troops diverted to the north, can now be redeployed back south where Hamas has already been severely weakened militarily and surrounded by Israeli troops. Israel will now be fighting on only one front. That makes a huge difference. Hamas' situation is untenable.

Please comment on what the ceasefire means/represents to Lebanon and Hezbollah and how it impacts the conflict in Gaza. Those are the issues of this thread that your post did not at all address.

As per Netanyahu, whether he is in or out or in court or in jail or sunning himself on a Gazan beach, it all makes no difference as to how strong the IDF is and that the outcome is inevitable. The only sane, logical and humane thing to do would be to call for Hamas to surrender. For the sake of Gazan civilians, why would anybody want this war, with a pre-determined ending, to continue for 1 minute more than it needs to.

By the time it's all over, the weaker that Hamas is at that time just means that they will be in a poorer position to negotiate. Your position is totally illogical.
Israel's attack on Lebanon was also a war crime, including targeting civilian infrastructure which is how you describe terrorism.
Despite months of attacks Israel was unable to take over any land, with Hezbollah holding them off.
Instead all Israel could do was bomb residential towers and hospitals, as usual.

All Israel did was manage to unite the world against their acts of aggression and put Netanyahu on the same moral ground as Myanmar's general.
Congrats on killing zionism.
 
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richaceg

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Israel's attack on Lebanon was also a war crime, including targeting civilian infrastructure which is how you describe terrorism.
Despite months of attacks Israel was unable to take over any land, with Hezbollah holding them off.
Instead all Israel could do was bomb residential towers and hospitals, as usual.

All Israel did was manage to unite the world against their acts of aggression and put Netanyahu on the same moral ground as Myanmar's general.
Congrats on killing zionism.
Hezbollah attacked Israel...playing victim doesn't work...
 

richaceg

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All this means is that Biden could have stopped the wars anytime he wanted.
Biden didn't do shit with this either...US is just a broker in this...looks like Lebanon is growing some balls...Hezbollah is in their last days.
 

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Israel's attack on Lebanon was also a war crime, including targeting civilian infrastructure which is how you describe terrorism.
Despite months of attacks Israel was unable to take over any land, with Hezbollah holding them off.
Instead all Israel could do was bomb residential towers and hospitals, as usual.

All Israel did was manage to unite the world against their acts of aggression and put Netanyahu on the same moral ground as Myanmar's general.
Congrats on killing zionism.
You didn't address even one of my points. You did not discuss the ceasefire, its' impact on Gaza/Hamas and how Hezbollah has now withdrawn its' support of Hamas.

War crime you say? You're a one trick pony but you have no tricks aside from false accusations. From HRW:

October 7 Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes by Hamas-led Groups
Armed Groups Holding Hostages Should Free Them Immediately

Which international body declared that Israel's response to Hezbollah rockets is a war crime. HRW, UNGA, UNSC?
 

Frankfooter

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You didn't address even one of my points. You did not discuss the ceasefire, its' impact on Gaza/Hamas and how Hezbollah has now withdrawn its' support of Hamas.

War crime you say? You're a one trick pony but you have no tricks aside from false accusations. From HRW:

October 7 Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes by Hamas-led Groups
Armed Groups Holding Hostages Should Free Them Immediately

Which international body declared that Israel's response to Hezbollah rockets is a war crime. HRW, UNGA, UNSC?
HRW reports on Lebanon?
Here's one:


Your comment:
Armed Groups Holding Hostages Should Free Them Immediately
In March the UNSC passed a resolution that demanded both sides ceasefire and return all hostages.
Israel is also disobeying this resolution.


Israel is holding and raping hostages, currently they have 8,000 or so prisoners.
 

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These Barbarians are still counting their dead, lost their leaders yet they celebrate victory by butchering animals. 🤮

 

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If Israel had abided by the UN resolutions calling for a ceasefire ...
You do know that the UN said Hamas was the problem right?

1. Welcomes the new ceasefire proposal announced on May 31, which Israel accepted, calls upon Hamas to also accept it, and urges both parties to fully implement its terms without delay and without condition;
 

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The genocide is not 'alleged', rich.
...
What court has that been proven in?

As always, any accusation against Israel must be true and accusations about your anti-Israel crew aren't true even if they have been proven in court.
 

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Totally false, Netanyahu has refused every deal, refused UNSC resolutions for ceasefire and still would rather continue the genocide rather then end it and get the hostages back.
So was lying when they UN said this
1. Welcomes the new ceasefire proposal announced on May 31, which Israel accepted, calls upon Hamas to also accept it, and urges both parties to fully implement its terms without delay and without condition;


Hamas' response was conditions which the UNSC completely opposed.
 

Frankfooter

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What court has that been proven in?

As always, any accusation against Israel must be true and accusations about your anti-Israel crew aren't true even if they have been proven in court.
Its been reported as happening by human rights organizations, documented fully and the charges have been laid at the ICC and are in process at the ICJ.
The fact that the genocide is occurring is not alleged, its well documented.
 

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Its been reported as happening by human rights organizations...
Hmm. When human rights organizations reported on and the ICC indicted Hamas for their use of sexual violence, you claimed it was all lies. Your racist double standard is refreshing.
 

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So was lying when they UN said this
1. Welcomes the new ceasefire proposal announced on May 31, which Israel accepted, calls upon Hamas to also accept it, and urges both parties to fully implement its terms without delay and without condition;


Hamas' response was conditions which the UNSC completely opposed.
Are you intentionally refusing to quote the parts that applied to Israel, basketcase?
That would be rather dishonest to claim it only applied to Hamas.

  • Temporary cessation of mutual military operations between the two sides and the withdrawal of Israeli forces eastward and away from densely populated areas to an area along the border in the entire Gaza Strip, including the Gaza Valley (Netzarim axis and Kuwait roundabout), as shown below.
  • A halt to military and reconnaissance air operations in the Gaza Strip for ten hours a day, and for 12 hours on the days of the release of detainees and prisoners.
  • The return of the displaced to their areas of residence and Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Valley, Netzarim axis, and the Kuwait roundabout:
 

Frankfooter

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Hmm. When human rights organizations and the ICC accusations reported on Hamas' use of sexual violence, you claimed it was all lies. Your racist double standard is refreshing.
Those organizations repeated Israeli claims, they were sent to the UN and investigated. They found no evidence.
If you want documentation of rape, it looks more like this.

If you really think rape makes Hamas look evil, why do you refuse to say Israel is just as bad when they do it?

 
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