Explain.not the same
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quite different
How is it different?
Explain.not the same
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quite different
research on a new bug was already in place ?[Lockdowns, masks, social distancing and vaccines.
Those were the primary reasons.
And you were talking about how you were apprehensive because the vaccine was made so fast.
It was because the research was already available.
it was a whole lot more than name calling, some wokesters went ballisticYou had the choice to take the vaccine or not.
Yes I respect a person's choice to not get a vaccine and I agree that some people online engaged in calling people names for not getting vaccinated.
The soviets used similar arguments to control behaviourBut in their defence, the world was facing a pandemic that had killed millions.
When people refuse to comply, it adversely affects others as well.
all vs a portionExplain.
How is it different?
That first chart is missing 2020-21 flu season. Oh ya I remember - the flu took a planned 2 year hiatus.odd how flu deaths dropped like a rock (to perhaps historic lows) just around the same time as covid deaths peaked out
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So even if it was a portion, unless it was a major number, it isn't worth pondering over.all vs a portion
quite different
you conflated the statement to: there was no covid, just a nasty flu bug , which was not my message
and you did this immediately
figure it out
Research on MRNA vaccines were in place.research on a new bug was already in place ?
that implies the bug already existed in a laboratory
As i pointed out the product development for an injectable drug is typically 10 years, and the vast majority of that time is meeting the regulatory requirements
Drug development requires muti stage approvals including clinical trials , to ensure public safety.
injectables require a whole other layer of regulatory requirement because of the higher infection risk relative to oral/transdermal/ rectal doses.
the actual research time to create the active ingredient is miniscule relative to the testing regime
are vaccines subject to a less rigorous regulatory requirements ?
if so , then it circles back to the issue it was rushed
lookSo even if it was a portion, unless it was a major number, it isn't worth pondering over.
If it is worth pondering over, then your statement amounts to saying that the majority of the 1.2M recorded deaths attributed to COVID were actually due to the Flu.
Which then makes it a Flu pandemic.
He keeps sending us money hoping it will change his faith. But he's just giving back our money that he stole.
google search: typical fda timelines for vaccine developmentResearch on MRNA vaccines were in place.
They already knew how to formulate an MRNA vaccine if certain details about the bug were known.
So it only took 9 months.
And it went through phase 3 trials as mandated by the FDA.
9 months vs 10-15 years,Vaccine development often takes 10-15 years of laboratory research, usually at a company in private industry, but often involves collaboration with researchers at a university.
perhaps its best you did not,research on a new bug was already in place ?
that implies the bug already existed in a laboratory
One cannot be classified as dying from Covid, if they died of any other condition.look
the decrease in 2021 flu deaths sticks out as a very big anomality
it coincided with a huge peak of reported covid deaths
3 million old dudes, dudets pass away every year in the US due to ...old age. a huge opportunity for miss classification to death by covid
how many were mis-classified ? we will never know , could be a small number , it could be very significant, we will never know
there is uncertainty in the covid values
you say it isn't worth pondering over.
again you brush aside uncertainty
you were trying to use precise values to support an argument for classifying something as "misinformation"
quoting precise values i.e. <1% based on stats with unquantified uncertainties is......... "misinformation"
20 odd posts later you still do not recognize the irony
perhaps a honest mistake initially, but one you have recognized when shown the flu death chart and given the huge volume of old age deaths
They were not starting from scratch mind you.google search: typical fda timelines for vaccine development
9 months vs 10-15 years,
so yes it was rushed through the regulatory process and concern was justified
i noticed you failed to comment on
perhaps its best you did not,
not sure i wish to venture down that rabbit hole either
He could have led a charmed lifestyle devoted his time and money to causes he believed in and been well respected as a caring charitable man.He keeps sending us money hoping it will change his faith. But he's just giving back our money that he stole.
Huge egoHe could have led a charmed lifestyle devoted his time and money to causes he believed in and been well respected as a caring charitable man.
Instead his ego and last name convinced him (with a lot of persuasion by Gerald Butts) to run for the PMs job
A job he had to know he was not qualified for.
Now his legacy has been cast in stone as a corrupt , untrustworthy fool
People wore masks, stayed in and the flu didn't spread.look
the decrease in 2021 flu deaths sticks out as a very big anomality
it coincided with a huge peak of reported covid deaths
so naive]One cannot be classified as dying from Covid, if they died of any other condition.
To die from covid one needs to have been sick with covid and died due to covid complications.
not according to your first statement hereThat is how they were classified.
There could be misclassification.
, you contradicted yourself inside of four linesOne cannot be classified as dying from Covid, if they died of any other condition.
not at allBut you are implying that the majority of 1.2M deaths were misclassified.
how many were mis-classified ? we will never know , could be a small number , it could be very significant, we will never know
WTF ???The misclassification if it existed, although unknown is still negligible.
this sounds like the "i am taking my ball and going home " statementI go by official figures.
1.2M deaths were 1-1.5% of the total reported COVID cases in the US.
It is the statistic official sources have provided.
yeah...... noThe Flu numbers in the prior year, was 25000 deaths.
In 2020 it was 5000?
So it was merely 20000 misclassified deaths even if you were to use the prior years numbers.
Or maybe there was more than one doctor, but they just get muted by legacy media. Which is the case, we can go back and forth all day, but I think I know who was right on this one and who got suckered by the TV and fear mongering.For every 1 doctor that is "just asking questions", you could come up with 10, that call BS on it.
Medical professionals were overwhelmed by the number of cases?. Sure.so naive
medical professionals were overwhelmed and shell shocked
its human nature to take the path of least resistance when overwhelmed
need to state a cause of death for 6 people when there are 50 waiting to see you ? ... give me the rubber covid stamp
Factual ? No, Plausible? certainly
Its not a conspiracy.Or maybe there are a lot more than one, but they just get muted by legacy media.
It's whatever you believe it to be.Its not a conspiracy.
It was an actual pandemic.
I already did above.It's whatever you believe it to be.
I'm waiting for you to reply to JohnLarue, go ahead. lol