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Trump Says U.S. Will Impose Massive Tariffs On Mexico, Canada And China From Day 1

dirtydaveiii

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Ok... we'll stop the fentanyl if you stop the guns.
No shit. America trades guns for fentanyl in Mexico. Canada would not have a gun problem if it wasn't for the US ridiculous lack of laws they sell ammo in vending machines ffs and guns at any back ally as long as it's near a gun show
 
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Leimonis

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Bullshit its not going to happen he's speaking to his base.
hopefully, and even if so, it is still a reminder of how lowbrow his base is and he is
 

Insidious Von

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Donald Trump putting Russia first.

Canada, Mexico and China has commodities that the USA needs to keep their economy running and they will retaliate. Since he is the King of Kings he can sustain his followers by bringing down opiates from heaven.

 

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Energy intensive industries will be FAR more interested in CHYYYY-NAH with its CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP power than NEW US electricty costs. The simpleton Yanks are all ignorantly afraid of nuclear power and it will take decades to bring that around. Not in the next, and final 4 years of Trump's "Step Right Up Folks" Carnival Barker gov't. And when new energy producing plants ARE brought online, they will be privately owned, for profit PUBLIC STOCK MARKET OWNED business' who will relentlessly price gouge as they are always driven by quarterly results and continuously rising share prices.

I'm not saying *I* have the solution, as I am nowhere near as well informed, knowledgable nor edumacated as those who are, but I do know when someone is selling me on something that is simply too good to be true. Or even remotely feasable.
a reasonable counter
however if they left because of high energy cost, they will evaluate returning if energy costs are lowered. and sustainable
Trump wont crater the US economy and would spin an about face if his plan goes off the rails
Buying hat spin would be difficult for the electorate and his ego would be punished
 

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The three easiest synthetic drugs to manufacture, in order of simplicity, are bath salts, fentanyl, and ecstasy. The main challenge in their production lies in the availability of precursor chemicals. Bath salts are the easiest to produce, as their precursor chemicals are relatively simple to obtain and the manufacturing process is straightforward. Fentanyl requires slightly more restricted precursor chemicals, making it somewhat more challenging to produce. Ecstasy ranks as the most difficult of the three, as its precursors are much harder to source, placing it in a distant third. Despite these challenges, ecstasy continues to be manufactured and distributed to illicit drug users.

Even if former President Trump were to stop all fentanyl imports from China, the drug would still find its way into the U.S. from other countries and domestic sources. His actions appear to be more about political theater, aiming to convince Americans that he is achieving significant results and "making America great again."

Trump’s trade tariffs are likely to slow global trade and impose financial burdens on the U.S. economy. He may be intentionally destabilize the economy only to claim credit for fixing it by the end of his term, bolstering his image as a skilled negotiator. He has even mentioned the possibility of serving a third term, which is currently prohibited by American law. While such a change seems unlikely, it raises questions about his political ambitions. If his policies were to lead to a global recession/depression, public outrage could turn against him. He may be hauled out into the streets of Washington D.C.
and Mussolinied.
 
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Leimonis

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The three easiest synthetic drugs to manufacture, in order of simplicity, are bath salts, fentanyl, and ecstasy.
wut? even meth is easier to make than MDMA (due to the simpler process and more accessible precursors)
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wut? even meth is easier to make than MDMA (due to the simpler process and more accessible precursors)
Gale you still around? Jesse told me he killed you!

 

bver_hunter

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Our Government should bring up with Donny Boy the fact that Canadians are being killed by the US guns that are being smuggled into Canada:

A gun purchased in the US for $500 "can easily sell for up to $5,000 in Canada", Norman Proctor, a Toronto Police inspector, said at a news conference last year.

The issue surfaced after Canada introduced stricter gun laws a few years ago in response to the 2020 mass shooting in Nova Scotia - the country's deadliest - in which 22 people were killed. The law included a ban on "assault-style weapons".
Some questioned the effectiveness of the ban, as the perpetrator was found to have obtained his guns illegally - three were smuggled across the US border from Houlton, Maine.
Once these American guns cross the border into Canada, police say they are frequently distributed across the country and used in violent crimes, like robberies, carjackings and homicides.
Chief Fordy told the BBC that in 2023, 90% of handguns recovered after violent crimes in Ontario - Canada's most populous province - were traced back to the US.
"Through our tracing and analysis, we know the top states (these guns come from) are Ohio, Texas, Florida and Georgia, in that order," Chief Fordy said.

Some are stolen, while others are bought using straw purchasers - an individual who buys a gun for someone who is not authorised to own it.
"Sometimes they are purchased in bulk, then sold here on the street for a handsome return on investment," Chief Fordy said.

This should be a bargaining chip against the USA, and not just the Americans interest!!
 

bver_hunter

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But I still cannot understand why the righties are cheering Trump for threatening to impose these tariffs!!

There is quite a possibility that Trump will say that he already got Canada to impose those stricter border controls that will now prevent the migrants and fentanyl from coming to the USA.
Hence, now there is no need for those tariffs. This is a possible scenario, as many of the Republican States that depend on trade with Canada will oppose these tariffs!!
 

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But I still cannot understand why the righties are cheering Trump for threatening to impose these tariffs!!

There is quite a possibility that Trump will say that he already got Canada to impose those stricter border controls that will now prevent the migrants and fentanyl from coming to the USA.
Hence, now there is no need for those tariffs. This is a possible scenario, as many of the Republican States that depend on trade with Canada will oppose these tariffs!!
It is clearly a negotiating position, and has garnered Trudeau's attention, who already has gone groveling to his master. I suspect 25% won't be the final position, but it may not be 0 either.
 
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Leimonis

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It is clearly a negotiating position, and has garnered Trudeau's attention, who already has gone groveling to his master. I suspect 25% won't be the final position, but it may not be 0 either.
It could only be any negotiation position if there was something to negotiate. Since there is no real influx of people from Canada into the United States, nor is there an influx of fentanyl, there is absolutely nothing to fucking negotiate.
 

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It could only be any negotiation position if there was something to negotiate. Since there is no real influx of people from Canada into the United States, nor is there an influx of fentanyl, there is absolutely nothing to fucking negotiate.
Oh really?
 

the general

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It could only be any negotiation position if there was something to negotiate. Since there is no real influx of people from Canada into the United States, nor is there an influx of fentanyl, there is absolutely nothing to fucking negotiate.
And here is a little more. I though you Liberals were educated and smart. You can't even do a little google search to avoid looking dumb.

 

Leimonis

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And here is a little more. I though you Liberals were educated and smart. You can't even do a little google search to avoid looking dumb.

I am not a liberal although I like that you imply that conservatives are not educated and smart. And by the way here is what the NP article you referred to says:

When you zoom out, none of these harsh words from Trump are fair. Canada’s problems are real and growing, but at the scale of a sprouting dandelion. Mexico, on the other hand, is an oak tree. Whatever our faults, we certainly don’t deserve tariffs. And it’s not like the U.S. border has treated us well over the years, either: migrants, guns and drugs find their way northward as well, and you don’t see us threatening our neighbours for it.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if people can change Trump's mind simply by just reminding him how "amazing" a free trade deal he negotiated with the USMCA.


p.s. Can't understand how anyone can think that massive tariffs will somehow help the US economy or think it won't cause massive inflation.
 
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the general

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I am not a liberal although I like that you imply that conservatives are not educated and smart. And by the way here is what the NP article you referred to says:

When you zoom out, none of these harsh words from Trump are fair. Canada’s problems are real and growing, but at the scale of a sprouting dandelion. Mexico, on the other hand, is an oak tree. Whatever our faults, we certainly don’t deserve tariffs. And it’s not like the U.S. border has treated us well over the years, either: migrants, guns and drugs find their way northward as well, and you don’t see us threatening our neighbours for it.
Certainly Trump is exaggerated the problem, but one exists, just not significant compared to the US/Mexico border. As to implying that conservatives are not educated and smart, there is nothing in what I said to imply that, other than Liberals aren't all that smart period, they just think they are.
 

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It is clearly a negotiating position, and has garnered Trudeau's attention, who already has gone groveling to his master. I suspect 25% won't be the final position, but it may not be 0 either.
Who is Trudeau's "Master"?

It is not just Canada, but also The EU and other G20 Nations that are just perplexed with these tariff threats!!
In the end, if fully implemented, then expect inflation to move into the wrong direction.
But remember that when the USMCA was being negotiated, Congress would not pass that Bill unless Canada was included.
Chrystia Freeland stood her ground!!
But I am expecting that not all Canadian goods will be subject to the tariffs if they are implemented.
No doubt that even if the tariffs are shrunk to small percentages, then expect Trump to boast about it to his usual base!!
 
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