No black gents turn off
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Wow!I personally feel a degree of SYNERGY with the OP. YES we all retain BODILY AUTONOMY, so there’s no argument whether it’s your right to screen based on race, and there are some legitimate reasons for racial/community screening as others have stated. But it’s NOT all RAINBOWS & LOLLIPOPS, there are far more tagging “no blacks” in particular than can be explained with a cultural exemption and let’s be honest and say it like it is, SOME providers use racist screening BECAUSE THEY’RE RACIST. Which is yes, their personal right, but is still a MORAL FAILURE IMHO.
Why? Well, on the provider side we are mainly SELECTIVE of clients for things like SAFETY, HYGENE, RESPECTFUL behaviour and meeting our financial requirements. You guys are paying for a service and have completely different selection criteria for those you are specifically and especially attracted to. There are perhaps some SWs that also screen for overarching physical attributes but I think that’s more in the nice to have column and really our criteria is on the TOLERANCE side. Think about it guys, we don’t even ask for photos so we’re looking at other criteria than you are.
I also feel the more experienced we are, the more we really don’t need a specific physical deck to build a connection, we move past superficial stuff to connect with the person and care about superficial aspects less and less. This is called personal growth and MATURITY.
For myself I see ALL RACES and screen based on defensible qualities like attitude. I don’t care what race, age (if legal), gender, religion, body type, ability nor height. I might care if you have a monster cock since I’m smaller but that’s about it! And it turns out gentlemen, professors, physicians, lawyers and even bad clients and gangsters come in all shades! And for the record the biggest dicks I couldn’t fit were Greek & Irish; chew on that a bit amongst the stereotypes. And the roughest are usually the smallies trying to overcompensate with other agressive behaviour just FYI. I personally find black men in particular are MORE careful to be respectful and gentle due to unfair stereotypes and racism. My black clients are often so “making love in the afternoon” vibes! Ultimately I feel a natural kinship with a person through their humour, kindness, playfulness and smarts.
So I actually understand and respect why saying “no blacks” without another clear reason comes off as RACIST and why that’s a TURN-OFF. Without a specific reason, It flags someone as narrow-minded and judgmental at best who will likely not be accepting of other physical attributes they may not like. I too find racism a personal turn-off, just as I find immature attitudes about body types and aging so pussy-desiccating. It just strikes me as mean, dumb or both which are super-unattractive qualities. And even though I have to tolerate it sometimes as the provider, I prefer to change to subject and focus on someone’s better self
Yes! IMO you put it so perfectly.
Agree, agree, agree.
Unfortunately Georgina Papin, Theresa Innes and Marylène Levesque can never complain again because they were all murdered by white serial killers who targeted prostitutes. The threat is not black or brown men guys.
You bring up an excellent point, and I totally see where you’re coming from. It really does highlight a double standard. If we’re being honest, there’s not much difference between excluding clients based on race and excluding them for other physical attributes like weight, age, or height. It’s all about making judgments based on superficial characteristics, and yet society seems to treat some of these exclusions as more "acceptable" than others.
It's fascinating, and honestly a bit ironic, how even providers of the same race sometimes refuse to see clients who share their background. That makes it clear that it's not necessarily about cultural or safety concerns, as some claim, but more about internalized biases or catering to certain stereotypes they might have come to believe over time. It’s almost like a form of self-directed prejudice, and it can be quite disheartening to see.
Preferences are, of course, everyone's right. But when they’re applied selectively, it starts to look less like a preference and more like discrimination. We often see these kinds of exclusions rationalized with reasons like "comfort" or "compatibility," but if the same criteria aren’t being applied consistently, it does beg the question of what’s truly driving these decisions.
At the end of the day, whether someone screens clients based on race, body type, or age, it all comes down to personal biases. But the cost of these biases is that providers might be missing out on genuine connections with clients who could be respectful, kind, and enjoyable to be around, regardless of their physical characteristics. It’s unfortunate that these kinds of preferences can prevent meaningful interactions and connections that could go far beyond the surface level.
Thanks for bringing this up—it’s an uncomfortable but necessary conversation to have. There’s a lot to unpack about how we think about preferences versus prejudice, and it’s refreshing to see someone willing to call it out.
Although an experience metric you can use, it's the same type of metrics that some of these girls use to reduce their bad experiences.
If you look further, you will see black SP saying no Blacks. Why?
There are Viet girls (in BC) that doesn't want to see other Viet men. Not because they hate Viet, they know the community is well networked and don't want to bump into people who would recognize them.
There are many reasons they blanket ban, but if you really want to see them, talk to them as an individual and ask them. We can break through these defenses. It's what it is.
Let's take these from the many SP's perspective and experiences.
Let's be an open discussion and find the truth, instead of pretending to see the world from Rosie colour glasses
Why do SP posts "no Blacks" and sometimes "No Middle Eastern" and now "No Indian".
Try to see it from their sex life experiences.
Sometimes it's just the size.
Sometimes it's the general nature and their correlation with their associated experience
Sometimes its a personal preference. But often, the personal preference is guided by prior experiences.
Let's take a deep dive once and for all. Let the ladies speak. And please only speak for yourselves, not for others.
In HK, they don't beat around the bush, there are some girls who just put No Foreigners, Huge Cock
on their door
Sadly I’m pretty sure a list of any colour skin man could be made for this. I don’t think only white men have murdered SW.
My opinion might not be the popular opinion, but I have many Indians , asians , black and foreigners among my regular clientele. They’re sweethearts , not smelly or violent. They’re real gentlemen
I have been in this industry for 20 years and I can affirm with certitude that it’s absolutely no difference between them.
You can find smelly idiots in many shapes and colours. I don’t see why I would write no black gents or no Indians on my advertisement.
If some girls are not comfortable seeing them , more for me
I have been in this industry for 20 years and I can affirm with certitude that it’s absolutely no difference between them.
You can find smelly idiots in many shapes and colours. I don’t see why I would write no black gents or no Indians on my advertisement.
If some girls are not comfortable seeing them , more for me
Not knowing anything, I remember being confused many years ago first coming across ads saying "no Greek". I was thinking "What do all these women have against people from Greece!?"
For all the 6 black males that live in Kingston, Ontario, The SPs in that region have put you on notice.
Speaking only for myself as you requested...
I see people of all races, all genders (or non-binary), all ages 19+, all abilities, all weights and builds, and so on...
If I am going to make this profession about MY personal sexual preferences including race or skin colour, I may as well request a photo of each potential client as well to see if I am attracted to them too.
This isn't Tinder.
Is sexwork WORK or is it inherently different from other types of work where discrimination is not acceptable?
It's a very complicated question and there is no one right answer as there are too many variables.
We don't know other sexworkers' reasons for race limits; sometimes trauma or small communities ARE valid reasons.
Then there are reasons based off of racial stereotypes and this is when I consider race restrictions to be wrong and discriminatory.
Kitty you you articulated this perfectly
This would be my exact response as well!
I don't think I said that actually.
But despite the fact that the most NOTORIOUS and PROLIFIC killers of sex workers and women in general in Canadian history have mainly white (Picton, Benardo, Crawford, Russell Williams, Cléroux…) I don’t think I’ve ever seen an ad that says “no caucasians.” So why is that? And how exactly does this square with the perception that it’s black men who are the scariest clients?
Black folks are literally ONLY 4.3% of the Canadian population and yet is group that gets screened out almost exclusively, why? We also have bad experiences with white guys and others. Some have king cobras, some are rude and agressive, some don’t wash their junk or butts, yet we continue seeing Caucasian guys because one man does not tar them all! We RESPECT that despite the bad apples, some of our BEST guys are white or whatever ethnicity. Maybe we should extend the same generosity to all men?
Black men have in my experience truly IMMACULATE and I mean that these guys could teach a lesson in hygiene: fresh clothing, good breath, nice clear skin… Idk who other providers are seeing—and with all due respect I AM A SEX WORKER and only read a few gents here that are speaking on behalf of other SWs—but the majority of my INDIAN GUYS ARE CLEAN and fresh plus really sweet and polite! There might be the odd monsieur who doesn’t wear deodorant so I give you that, not sure if that’s because of the chemicals or perhaps not liking scent, but with a fresh soapy shower, it’s fine IMHO and honestly white guys have JUST AS MANY hygiene issues to resolve—don’t make me list the gross stuff, we’ve all read it!
Thanks to our sweethearts who stay on top of this and are so lovely 
I have a lot of empathy for my fellow workers and understand this can be a hard occupation at times with unsavoury moments and so that’s why many of us try to share our experience and help to encourage better safety. I put to you the argument that screening based on race DOES NOT materially improve safety and is also bad for business, limiting the pool of great clients we can attract and so arguably reduces the opportunity for safety and nice dates.
As someone who also sees and respects all races, I have personally experienced that my biggest factor in reducing bad clients is good marketing, professional policies and screening based on “attitude” which is not to say it’s ever a provider’s fault a negative encounter occurs but that we can do a lot to attract great clients and screen bad ones. Something to think about. Hugs
As a black male thank you for this. It is about time someone sees the real truth and expresses it so thank you for that. I now need to save some funds to come spend some time with you.
Interesting thread.... I think the main point I got from it is that every SP has varying reasons for excluding a particular race or background from their roster.
I see all manner of clients, physicality doesn't play a role. I like to revel in the human being I'm with regardless of race, age (over 19) body type or background.
That being said, my personal experience with black men has been a) the size issue, I'm petite and while not every black man has a huge c@ck, the stereotype has proven itself more often than not and can be uncomfortable. And b) stamina, someone posted about banging away for 40 mins on a hh booking and while stamina varies greatly between men (not race per se) I personally from my experience would say it happens more with black men than others. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a good session but I like a connection and spending the ENTIRE 30 mins straight f@ucking can be exhausting. I also believe that not everyone is beholden their particular races stereotypes so I don't exclude anyone based on past experiences. I personally can't justify BL possible wonderful clients because of what has happened with others of the same race.
I see all manner of clients, physicality doesn't play a role. I like to revel in the human being I'm with regardless of race, age (over 19) body type or background.
That being said, my personal experience with black men has been a) the size issue, I'm petite and while not every black man has a huge c@ck, the stereotype has proven itself more often than not and can be uncomfortable. And b) stamina, someone posted about banging away for 40 mins on a hh booking and while stamina varies greatly between men (not race per se) I personally from my experience would say it happens more with black men than others. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a good session but I like a connection and spending the ENTIRE 30 mins straight f@ucking can be exhausting. I also believe that not everyone is beholden their particular races stereotypes so I don't exclude anyone based on past experiences. I personally can't justify BL possible wonderful clients because of what has happened with others of the same race.
different perspective on the issue.
In my travels, I've noticed that black women vs Indian woman vs white women all taste different. Has nothing to do with cleanliness, but their natural taste (and smell). Obviously there are a lot of variation within each group, but to me there is definitely a distinction between groups. I mean, I've never seen porn where the guy says the black girl 'tastes like strawberries', while it's almost a cliche for white girls.
Sometimes people can have a bad reaction to someone's smell, regardless of how much they care for the person. A close friend of mine (white) left his black fiancée because every time she squirted the smell got really intense for him. He tried to get over it, but eventually it got to the point where he had trouble finishing. I can also see the tequila effect happening (... you once got horribly sick drinking tequila, so now you can't even smell the stuff without your body revolting). If a lady who is sensitive to black guys, happens to see a (clean) but strong smelling black guy, it can lead to bad associations.
I will admit that you don't it the other way ('no Caucasians'), but at least some of this may simply be nothing more than body chemistry.
In my travels, I've noticed that black women vs Indian woman vs white women all taste different. Has nothing to do with cleanliness, but their natural taste (and smell). Obviously there are a lot of variation within each group, but to me there is definitely a distinction between groups. I mean, I've never seen porn where the guy says the black girl 'tastes like strawberries', while it's almost a cliche for white girls.
Sometimes people can have a bad reaction to someone's smell, regardless of how much they care for the person. A close friend of mine (white) left his black fiancée because every time she squirted the smell got really intense for him. He tried to get over it, but eventually it got to the point where he had trouble finishing. I can also see the tequila effect happening (... you once got horribly sick drinking tequila, so now you can't even smell the stuff without your body revolting). If a lady who is sensitive to black guys, happens to see a (clean) but strong smelling black guy, it can lead to bad associations.
I will admit that you don't it the other way ('no Caucasians'), but at least some of this may simply be nothing more than body chemistry.
I don’t want this to sound as though I am criticizing your post, or another providers business. But I do find the stamina argument a little interesting.And b) stamina, someone posted about banging away for 40 mins on a hh booking and while stamina varies greatly between men (not race per se) I personally from my experience would say it happens more with black men than others. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a good session but I like a connection and spending the ENTIRE 30 mins straight f@ucking can be exhausting. I also believe that not everyone is beholden their particular races stereotypes so I don't exclude anyone based on past experiences. I personally can't justify BL possible wonderful clients because of what has happened with others of the same race.
It’s just my personal belief that it is entirely the providers responsibility to maintain the flow of their booking, and if a clients stamina during the timeframe they have booked is becoming an issue, it should be the providers responsibility to control the flow of the session and either remind the client that they have only booked X amount of time.
Or adopt a policy, as many other providers have, that lets the client know X amount of time is reserved for showering, socializing, fucking, and then tidying up after the fun.
Typically, if a client is only booking a 30 minute session, those sessions are usually going to be 90% fucking… that timeframe does not realistically allow for anything else, especially if you want to socialize with the client. And those 30 minute bookings are usually only going to attract the type of client that wants to spend a generous amount of time having sex.
Just my personal opinion but i feel that a provider should be prepared for that type of session if they’re offering 30 min bookings. 30 mins straight of sex isn’t unreasonable imo. But with the time limitation of only booking 30 minutes, I get why it can be an issue.
I think it’s another discussion altogether if the issue isn’t necessarily with stamina, but rather with how hard they are going for those 30 minutes. But in those cases, I think it is still up to providers to enforce some boundaries and tell the client to slow it down a little and perhaps guide them into some more sensual sex and foreplay.
