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...and comments like that, along with the mindset of the people who make them, is the reason why Trump overwhelmingly won the election.
It's not the reason. In fact that couldn't be further from the truth actually.
The majority of the American voting public didn't vote for Trump based on "feelings".
So which is it then? Did the mean Lefties saying mean things about MAGA cause Trump to win? Or not?

Anyway, I don’t think it matters. Regardless of the cause, America is on its way to becoming a fascist dictatorship. I don’t find all of the angst and finger-pointing on the Left to be of much value. It’s kinda like when the Titanic hit the iceberg: regardless of whose fault it was the outcome remained the same.
 
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So which is it then? Did the mean Lefties saying mean things about MAGA cause Trump to win? Or not?

Anyway, I don’t think it matters. Regardless of the cause, America is on its way to becoming a fascist dictatorship. I don’t find all of the angst and finger-pointing on the Left to be of much value. It’s kinda like when the Titanic hit the iceberg: regardless of whose fault it was the outcome remained the same.
We'll see, I still think that rump is too senile to remember what he wanted to do and his team are all such wackos they won't be able to agree on what time to meet.
Trump will enact some tariffs, that's the easiest thing, then all his supporters are going to turn on him once they realize what that means.
 

richaceg

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Terrorism is political violence.
Cannot be applied to the violent crimes you are possibly referring to by illegal immigrants.
On the other hand, a white supremacist who attacks an illegal immigrant, can be said to be engaging in terrorism.
It becomes political when governors are trying to fight the mandate of executive branch to remove illegal immigrants....
 

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It becomes political when governors are trying to fight the mandate of executive branch to remove illegal immigrants....
More MAGA snowflake, cupcake, lil' buttercup tears a'flowing.

"Boo-hoo-hoo, they're so mean to us. Waaaaaaaaah."
 

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We'll see, I still think that rump is too senile to remember what he wanted to do and his team are all such wackos they won't be able to agree on what time to meet.
Trump will enact some tariffs, that's the easiest thing, then all his supporters are going to turn on him once they realize what that means.
The majority of his supporters, the MAGATWATS are part of his cult. He can do no wrong, they will cheer him on even if they can't afford their home and sleeping in a tent, they will scream Trump is the best in the whole wide world.
 

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Because it is racist and cruel.
Are you calling the majority of the American voting public racist and cruel?
It sounds like you are.
Only someone crazy and undemocratic would make that claim.
Or is this one of those times where you make a claim and then a few posts later conveniently forget that you made the claim?
Only someone crazy would do that.
 
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Skoob

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How exactly are they going to do this?

Are you going to deploy the entire 82nd Airborne at a mall in San Antonio to grab each Hispanic passer-by's wallet and check if he has US ID?

How about the entire 1st Armored Division with its 1,000+ Abrams tanks surrounding a Taco Bell in Riverside, CA and preventing brown people leaving until they prove they have a green card.

"Economical"???!!!...........

Again, my suggestion that they re assign 30% of FBI agents to immigration enforcement and thereby let mass shooters and serial killers and organized drug and gun cartels have free rein is the most sensible one.
Seems like you're more concerned about the "how" rather than being more concerned about the "why & when".
You're only more concerned about the "how" because it's more about the person you just don't like, and questioning the "how" is really all you have at this point.
Did I get that right?
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Are you calling the majority of the American voting public racist and cruel?
It sounds like you are.
Only someone crazy and undemocratic would make that claim.
Or is this one of those times where you make a claim and then a few posts later conveniently forget that you made the claim?
Only someone crazy would do that.
Strawman.
You'd be silly to claim that everyone who voted for Trump voted for mass deportations.
Many are single issue voters.
Others vote against woke.
Still others vote against Dems because they were disappointed.
Jews and Muslims voted because of Gaza.
Then there are others who simply vote Republican.
And then there are the ones who are racist or cruel or both.
To top it off I called his policy racist and cruel.
But of course youd deny this because you are a professional mental gymnast.
 
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Seems like you're more concerned about the "how" rather than being more concerned about the "why & when".
You're only more concerned about the "how" because it's more about the person you just don't like, and questioning the "how" is really all you have at this point.
Did I get that right?
No.

The "why" is a given. And the "when" is a "whenever".

The "how" is the most important question and has nothing to do with Trump. I've given you a suggestion. Clearly the current administration wants an increase in effort. So that means increased budget and manpower.

The underlying note is that Trumpo-Dumbo is a senile, grifting moron who will talk and rant, but never do anything effective - just like "The Wall". This is "The Wall 2.0".
 

Skoob

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Strawman.
You'd be silly to claim that everyone who voted for Trump voted for mass deportations.
Many are single issue voters.
Others vote against woke.
Still others vote against Dems because they were disappointed.
Jews and Muslims voted because of Gaza.
Then there are others who simply vote Republican.
And then there are the ones who are racist or cruel or both.
To top it off I called his policy racist and cruel.
But of course youd deny this because you are a professional mental gymnast.
Yeah sure...
His most significant campaign promise somehow gets overlooked by someone against mass deportation that votes for him anyway? Not likely.
If you believe that to be true, prove it.

Or better yet...come back a few posts later and claim you didn't say any of this and we'll move on.
 
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Skoob

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No.

The "why" is a given. And the "when" is a "whenever".

The "how" is the most important question and has nothing to do with Trump. I've given you a suggestion. Clearly the current administration wants an increase in effort. So that means increased budget and manpower.

The underlying note is that Trumpo-Dumbo is a senile, grifting moron who will talk and rant, but never do anything effective - just like "The Wall". This is "The Wall 2.0".
Can we let him actually get in office before the usual attacks begin?
Where's Biden btw?
 

richaceg

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How exactly are they going to do this?

Are you going to deploy the entire 82nd Airborne at a mall in San Antonio to grab each Hispanic passer-by's wallet and check if he has US ID?

How about the entire 1st Armored Division with its 1,000+ Abrams tanks surrounding a Taco Bell in Riverside, CA and preventing brown people leaving until they prove they have a green card.

"Economical"???!!!...........

Again, my suggestion that they re assign 30% of FBI agents to immigration enforcement and thereby let mass shooters and serial killers and organized drug and gun cartels have free rein is the most sensible one.
You see this is why you guys are being called snowflakes or "the loonie left". When you hear Trump is using the military to do the mass deportations...you somehow think he's gonna round up these illegal immigrants and put them on a
concentration camp lol .. I'm pretty sure he's gonna round them up and send them home....
 
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Skoob

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It was a straight question.
What is a straw man argument?
A straw man argument, sometimes called a straw person argument or spelled strawman argument, is the logical fallacy of distorting an opposing position into an extreme version of itself and then arguing against that extreme version. In creating a straw man argument, the arguer strips the opposing point of view of any nuance and often misrepresents it in a negative light.

The straw man fallacy is an informal fallacy, which means that the flaw lies with the arguer’s method of arguing rather than the flaws of the argument itself. The straw man fallacy avoids the opponent’s actual argument and instead argues against an inaccurate caricature of it. By doing this, the straw man fallacy is a fallacy of relevance, because with it the arguer doesn’t engage with the relevant components of their opposer’s position.

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/rhetorical-devices/straw-man-fallacy/
 

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What is a straw man argument?
A straw man argument, sometimes called a straw person argument or spelled strawman argument, is the logical fallacy of distorting an opposing position into an extreme version of itself and then arguing against that extreme version. In creating a straw man argument, the arguer strips the opposing point of view of any nuance and often misrepresents it in a negative light.

The straw man fallacy is an informal fallacy, which means that the flaw lies with the arguer’s method of arguing rather than the flaws of the argument itself. The straw man fallacy avoids the opponent’s actual argument and instead argues against an inaccurate caricature of it. By doing this, the straw man fallacy is a fallacy of relevance, because with it the arguer doesn’t engage with the relevant components of their opposer’s position.

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/rhetorical-devices/straw-man-fallacy/
Hey Mr. Strawman meet the epitome of a Straw man argument below:
Are you calling the majority of the American voting public racist and cruel?
It sounds like you are.
Only someone crazy and undemocratic would make that claim.
Or is this one of those times where you make a claim and then a few posts later conveniently forget that you made the claim?
Only someone crazy would do that.
Epic faceplant post in addition to delivering repeated 360-degree haymakers to oneself.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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What is a straw man argument?
A straw man argument, sometimes called a straw person argument or spelled strawman argument, is the logical fallacy of distorting an opposing position into an extreme version of itself and then arguing against that extreme version. In creating a straw man argument, the arguer strips the opposing point of view of any nuance and often misrepresents it in a negative light.

The straw man fallacy is an informal fallacy, which means that the flaw lies with the arguer’s method of arguing rather than the flaws of the argument itself. The straw man fallacy avoids the opponent’s actual argument and instead argues against an inaccurate caricature of it. By doing this, the straw man fallacy is a fallacy of relevance, because with it the arguer doesn’t engage with the relevant components of their opposer’s position.

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/rhetorical-devices/straw-man-fallacy/
Or just read your previous post.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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His most significant campaign promise somehow gets overlooked by someone against mass deportation that votes for him anyway? Not likely.
Wanting to deal with illegal immigration or border security is different from specific support for mass deportations.
Even I support reducing illegal immigration and strengthening border security.
Doesn't mean I support mass deportations.
Dealing with illegal immigration and border security does not have to result in a humanitarian crisis.
 
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The majority of his supporters, the MAGATWATS are part of his cult. He can do no wrong, they will cheer him on even if they can't afford their home and sleeping in a tent, they will scream Trump is the best in the whole wide world.
I dunno, when the chinese MAGA hats go up $20 because of the tariffs they might start clueing in.
 
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