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Trump ready to use American military on US soil. - So much to do before January 21st.

Valcazar

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Americans voted him with solving the border problems as primary mandate...they expect him to get rid of illegal migrants...democrat gov's threaten to oppose him...military can be use vs enemies of the state, foreign or domestic...if they cooperate it won't be necessary...
Are immigrants "enemies of the state"?
Or are you saying that Democratic governments who oppose Trump's policies will be declared "enemies of the state"?
 

Valcazar

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Why would you wish for a democratically elected leader to be stopped from doing what the majority of the voting public elected him to do?
How undemocratic of you to suggest such a thing. Shameful indeed.
Totally democratic.
Elections are not the end of government policy and struggles between different branches and levels government are built into and explicitly encouraged in the US Federal system.

And even if you don't believe that, is it your opinion that the less than half of the voting public (he didn't get a majority, as you know) who voted for him voted explicitly for the "use the military" policy?
Every Trump voter agrees 100 percent with Trump on every thing? (In other words, every accusation of all Trump voters being in a cult that does whatever Trump says is true?)
 

Insidious Von

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It's going to be amazing. Putin, Kim and Trump can have a steamy menage-a-trios again. Putin just has to hang in until Jan 22.

 

richaceg

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Are immigrants "enemies of the state"?
Or are you saying that Democratic governments who oppose Trump's policies will be declared "enemies of the state"?
illegals basically are..and whoever enables them are too. only liberals can say they are not with a straight face...what do you think is the purpose of the border?
 

Valcazar

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illegals basically are..and whoever enables them are too. only liberals can say they are not with a straight face...what do you think is the purpose of the border?
So are all people who break any laws "enemies of the state"?
I'm just trying to pin down your outlook here.

We've established that you are in favor of using the US military on American Citizens at least, since "whoever enables them are too".
Just trying to determine if this designation is only for lawbreaking related to immigration or if it is all violations of the law.
 
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richaceg

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So are all people who break any laws "enemies of the state"?
I'm just trying to pin down your outlook here.

We've established that you are in favor of using the US military on American Citizens at least, since "whoever enables them are too".
Just trying to determine if this designation is only for lawbreaking related to immigration or if it is all violations of the law.
a non citizen...commiting crime. aiding them are too.
 

richaceg

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So any non-citizen committing a crime is an "enemy of the state"?
(And anyone abetting them, as you say.)
If the illegal immigrant commits crimes on civilians and can be proven to fall under terrorism...they do. and whoever aids them can be charged with treason...
 

Valcazar

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If the illegal immigrant commits crimes on civilians and can be proven to fall under terrorism...they do. and whoever aids them can be charged with treason...
It's actually incredibly hard to charge someone with treason in the United States.
The definition is EXTREMELY narrow.
"Helping an illegal immigrant who has committed terrorism" wouldn't qualify under current interpretations.

But I see you've narrowed it down.
So the only illegal immigrants who are "enemies of the state" are ones who can be proven to have committed terrorism.
So that guy you asked if I would house, he wouldn't be one under your definition, right?
 
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Anbarandy

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It's pretty simple. If mass illegal immigration is possible, so too is mass deportation.

There are two types of people: those who do and those who don't.

The former is very rare.

The latter are the "should've, could've, would've" camp. The "can't, won't, don't" camp.

They sit by and watch as the people who can and will, change history, dragging them along like spoiled children toward better things.
Wow!

"Yer either fur mass deportation or yer agin it"
 
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