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I read the comments and as always easier to prosecute than the big guys.

Asian massage parlors bust in Florida lands 21 women in jail

 
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That is kind of how I imagine the average asian MPA to look in the GTA. I'm talking the semi legit places in suburban strip malls here. So whenever I read a gushing review of typical Asian MP I just shake my head and picture these women.
 
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I read the comments and as always easier to prosecute than the big guys.

Asian massage parlors bust in Florida lands 21 women in jail

"We are always looking out for the victim of sex trafficking" I hate these people

Where is the handler? Why exposed the workers like that and expose them to eventual hate and violence with their full name, age and pictures?
 

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You do realize the United States is a pretty big place, correct?

With a whole bunch of different states and localities, and a federal government.

Quite a bit like the giant country of Canada.

The posts here on Terb always make it sound like it is just a tiny little redneck speck of dirt before you get to Mexico.

Florida other than Miami / Ft. Lauderdale is not hobby friendly.

The particular county where Judd is the sheriff is absolutely the least hobby friendly county in the U.S. now that the sheriff in the county that includes Phoenix, Arizona finally retired.

He can’t hide his glee when one of the guys who gets arrested works at Disney. The fucking asshole even despises Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck.

In general, we are living in an environment where Asian massage parlors are to be avoided even in hobby friendly states and localities, especially since the federal government targets them. The movement of ladies across state lines gives the federal government jurisdiction, and fits into the nonsense trafficking theme that many on the far left even buy into.

What is safe are independent escorts who screen, have a review history, and who charge a lot. Preferably in large U.S. cities where there is little or no targeted enforcement.

Not everyone’s cup of tea, but it should be noted that if you stay away from mass classified advertisements, Asian massage parlors, and redneck, white-trash rural Florida (and most of the south and southwest while you are at it), it can be done safely in the U.S.
 
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"We are always looking out for the victim of sex trafficking" I hate these people

Where is the handler? Why exposed the workers like that and expose them to eventual hate and violence with their full name, age and pictures?
Just wondered what your ideas would be to integrate Asian women into the accepted and mainstream way that this activity is conducted in Canada and the U.S.?

I realize of course that the U.S. and Canada are different, although not as different as the first post suggests.

But even in hobby-friendly and Asian-heavy San Francisco, there are few Asian independent escorts compared to White and Black ladies.

Toronto of course is much more hobby-friendly than anywhere in the U.S., and Canada accepts the existence of agencies, but if you look at the five or so most-often mentioned upscale agencies, Asian ladies are underrepresented on their rosters.

But if you look at the pornographic pictures posted on Terb, the guys here love petite, young Asians. A few hot young Asian independents could seemingly make a fortune as independents, but unless I am badly mistaken, you just don‘t find them in higher-rate situations as you do with attractive non-Asians.
 
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Just wondered what your ideas would be to integrate Asian women into the accepted and mainstream way that this activity is conducted in Canada and the U.S.?

I realize of course that the U.S. and Canada are different, although not as different as the first post suggests.

But even in hobby-friendly and Asian-heavy San Francisco, there are few Asian independent escorts compared to White and Black ladies.

Toronto of course is much more hobby-friendly than anywhere in the U.S., and Canada accepts the existence of agencies, but if you look at the five or so most-often mentioned upscale agencies, Asian ladies are underrepresented on their rosters.

But if you look at the pornographic pictures posted on Terb, the guys here love petite, young Asians. A few hot young Asian independents could seemingly make a fortune as independents, but unless I am badly mistaken, you just don‘t find them in higher-rate situations as you do with attractive non-Asians.
I am completely against Asian massage parlor don't get me wrong but I was talking about stigmatization in another thread and that's exactly it here. You expose them publicly, shame them and then i guess they will send them back home to China. There is many reasons why people leave the country to come and do it here or in the USA.

Charge them, that's fine. They came to work and do illegal stuff in the country. But do you see them shaming publicly other people than sex workers? No. Not any other type of criminal gets to be publicly shame like that beyond the regular media. It's dehumanizing to a point I can't explain. What's gonna happen to them when they get home? They broke the law, but noone was hurt. Quite the opposite.
 

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You do realize the United States is a pretty big place, correct?

With a whole bunch of different states and localities, and a federal government.

Quite a bit like the giant country of Canada.

The posts here on Terb always make it sound like it is just a tiny little redneck speck of dirt before you get to Mexico.

Florida other than Miami / Ft. Lauderdale is not hobby friendly.

The particular county where Judd is the sheriff is absolutely the least hobby friendly county in the U.S. now that the sheriff in the county that includes Phoenix, Arizona finally retired.

He can’t hide his glee when one of the guys who gets arrested works at Disney. The fucking asshole even despises Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck.

In general, we are living in an environment where Asian massage parlors are to be avoided even in hobby friendly states and localities, especially since the federal government targets them. The movement of ladies across state lines gives the federal government jurisdiction, and fits into the nonsense trafficking theme that many on the far left even buy into.

What is safe are independent escorts who screen, have a review history, and who charge a lot. Preferably in large U.S. cities where there is little or no targeted enforcement.

Not everyone’s cup of tea, but it should be noted that if you stay away from mass classified advertisements, Asian massage parlors, and redneck, white-trash rural Florida (and most of the south and southwest while you are at it), it can be done safely in the U.S.
"He can’t hide his glee when one of the guys who gets arrested works at Disney. The fucking asshole even despises Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck."


So do I. I'm more of a Looney Tunes guy.
 
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I am completely against Asian massage parlor don't get me wrong but I was talking about stigmatization in another thread and that's exactly it here. You expose them publicly, shame them and then i guess they will send them back home to China. There is many reasons why people leave the country to come and do it here or in the USA.

Charge them, that's fine. They came to work and do illegal stuff in the country. But do you see them shaming publicly other people than sex workers? No. Not any other type of criminal gets to be publicly shame like that beyond the regular media. It's dehumanizing to a point I can't explain. What's gonna happen to them when they get home? They broke the law, but noone was hurt. Quite the opposite.
Thank God, you wonderful person, that you don’t spend much time in the rural U.S. I have seen plenty of small stores, usually run by Indian-Americans, that put up big pictures in their store of people accused of shoplifting from them. Near the sign that says Cash Only for Purchases Less than $10.
 

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Thank God, you wonderful person, that you don’t spend much time in the rural U.S. I have seen plenty of small stores, usually run by Indian-Americans, that put up big pictures in their store of people accused of shoplifting from them. Near the sign that says Cash Only for Purchases Less than $10.
Do I need to explain to you the difference between a store picture in rural america and national television? The reach is not the same.
 

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Do I need to explain to you the difference between a store picture in rural america and national television? The reach is not the same.
The reach is different. The concept is the same.

What I keep trying to say when it comes to sex work, and it applies to a limited extent to shopping, is that if you play in the dirt, don’t get mad about getting dirty.

The U.S. has large swaths of territory where they don’t want sex work, and even forgetting about territory, it has venues such as Asian Massage Parlors, that aren’t wanted by the people in power anywhere. Stay the fuck away from this activity in those places.

Even when you are shopping while traveling, you can roll your suitcase into a nice store unmolested if you look like an upscale person. Don’t do that with a store where there is high shoplifting. They want that bag checked at the front door no matter what you look like. if they make an exception, the many potential actual shoplifters are going to be pissed and say something.

Don’t be poor in the U.S., even while visiting. U.S. law enforcement doesn’t like poor people or the places they frequent. They don’t care how many pictures circulate.
 
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The reach is different. The concept is the same.

What I keep trying to say when it comes to sex work, and it applies to a limited extent to shopping, is that if you play in the dirt, don’t get mad about getting dirty.

The U.S. has large swaths of territory where they don’t want sex work, and even forgetting about territory, it has venues such as Asian Massage Parlors, that aren’t wanted by the people in power anywhere. Stay the fuck away from this activity in those places.

Even when you are shopping while traveling, you can roll your suitcase into a nice store unmolested if you look like an upscale person. Don’t do that with a store where there is high shoplifting. They want that bag checked at the front door no matter what you look like. if they make an exception, the many potential actual shoplifters are going to be pissed and say something.

Don’t be poor in the U.S., even while visiting. U.S. law enforcement doesn’t like poor people or the places they frequent. They don’t care how many pictures circulate.
I'm not sure where you are going with all that maybe am I getting lost in translation here.
 

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I'm not sure where you are going with all that maybe am I getting lost in translation here.
The original post encompasses all of the U.S. with a broad generalization. I think that is incorrect. Honestly, I think the same is largely true for Canada. There are parts of rural Canada that are not as hobby-friendly as Toronto.

Canadians are nicer people than Americans and more apt to treat everyone the same, so it is difficult for them to often understand how much different law enforcement is among socioeconomic classes.

However, before we all sing O’Canada too much, it is useful to recognize that the rates appear lower in general for Asian ladies in Canada, and they largely work in lower-end massage parlors, as they do in the U.S., even though Canada does not raid their workplaces as often. I simply asked how you would approach getting more of them into independent escorting at rates similar to your’s?
 

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Sex Work is illegal in the US. Agree or disagree with the law. As Patron pointed out It is more strictly enforced in some areas. Hillsborough County (Tampa) FL has posted similar mug shots of Johns so it is not always the woman embarrassed in this way.

It is not always going after the SW. North Carolina is now targeting the SW customer aka: the Johns. Effective Dec 1 North Carolina is reducing the punishment on the SW's and increasing the severity of the punishing the John's. Second offense for the John means a felony. N.C. now 'toughest' in nation on pimps, johns
 
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The original post encompasses all of the U.S. with a broad generalization. I think that is incorrect. Honestly, I think the same is largely true for Canada. There are parts of rural Canada that are not as hobby-friendly as Toronto.

Canadians are nicer people than Americans and more apt to treat everyone the same, so it is difficult for them to often understand how much different law enforcement is among socioeconomic classes.

However, before we all sing O’Canada too much, it is useful to recognize that the rates appear lower in general for Asian ladies in Canada, and they largely work in lower-end massage parlors, as they do in the U.S., even though Canada does not raid their workplaces as often. I simply asked how you would approach getting more of them into independent escorting at rates similar to your’s?
Quick answer would be: for most you don’t. Because they can't. Simply. You can at least make sure they have their family when they go back home after being trafficked for years. These people are either tricked or forced very few have the means to travel by themselves and it's pretty sure that all the money they make is sent home or given to the handler to pay their debt.

Raid them all if you want. But how about they really look out for trafficking worker lol instead of claiming they are and then just destroy their lives like this. Wtf

 
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The original post encompasses all of the U.S. with a broad generalization. I think that is incorrect. Honestly, I think the same is largely true for Canada. There are parts of rural Canada that are not as hobby-friendly as Toronto.

Canadians are nicer people than Americans and more apt to treat everyone the same, so it is difficult for them to often understand how much different law enforcement is among socioeconomic classes.

However, before we all sing O’Canada too much, it is useful to recognize that the rates appear lower in general for Asian ladies in Canada, and they largely work in lower-end massage parlors, as they do in the U.S., even though Canada does not raid their workplaces as often. I simply asked how you would approach getting more of them into independent escorting at rates similar to your’s?
To be fair, Asian places were raid more then Caucasian places before 2014 when the laws changed. Now, it’s is usually only underage or sex trafficked places that get raid now.

However to the point Josephine is making, here in Canada, it is the handlers/pimps/owners that are outted in the media, not the sex workers.
 

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When in Rome, do as the Romans.

There's a reason why gays don't host Gay Pride Parades in the Middle East.
 
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To be fair, Asian places were raid more then Caucasian places before 2014 when the laws changed. Now, it’s is usually only underage or sex trafficked places that get raid now.

However to the point Josephine is making, here in Canada, it is the handlers/pimps/owners that are outted in the media, not the sex workers.
To be even more fair, that is exactly how it works in most parts of the U.S. In fact the federal government has a policy of not prosecuting ordinary Johns and sex workers in a federal investigation, and many large liberal cities do not pursue sex workers outside of circumstances very similar to c-36, with Manhattan being one of them.

There are three message boards in the U.S., and you would need to spend 15 minutes on one of them to find out this sheriff is a fanatic about arresting everyone involved with sex work.

If more Americans read Terb, we would have to do a new national motto for our coins. The United States: More than just some redneck counties in Florida.

I have only been to Montreal, Toronto and Windsor.

So let me know, when you go to some northern prairie town in Canada, do the hookers wave you in and the sheriff (or whatever he/she is called) give you the thumbs up as the hookers wave to you? Or are there Jesus-freak places in Canada where they don’t want this activity, either?
 

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To be even more fair, that is exactly how it works in most parts of the U.S. In fact the federal government has a policy of not prosecuting ordinary Johns and sex workers in a federal investigation, and many large liberal cities do not pursue sex workers outside of circumstances very similar to c-36, with Manhattan being one of them.

There are three message boards in the U.S., and you would need to spend 15 minutes on one of them to find out this sheriff is a fanatic about arresting everyone involved with sex work.

If more Americans read Terb, we would have to do a new national motto for our coins. The United States: More than just some redneck counties in Florida.

I have only been to Montreal, Toronto and Windsor.

So let me know, when you go to some northern prairie town in Canada, do the hookers wave you in and the sheriff (or whatever he/she is called) give you the thumbs up as the hookers wave to you? Or are there Jesus-freak places in Canada where they don’t want this activity, either?
The religious nuts in Canada are insignificant to what you have going on down there, both in terms of numbers and even less in political impact. Canada has managed to keep church and state separate for the most part.

I suspect that hobbying in the big cities is easier than out in the boonies. In general, if nobody is being hurt or exploited, the cops will leave you alone.
 
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