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The 2024 US Presidential election

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I think you chose to ignore my point that ethnicity along with poverty are a bigger factor than just poverty alone. In other words, culture is the bigger factor. It begs the question why aren't all people in poverty obese if we use your logic or (should I say rhetoric)?

Anyway, the U.S. has fairly generous food program. No one needs to go to McDonald's in the U.S.

Interesting data somewhat relevant to the discussion. I don't think of Aussies or Canadian being unhealthy.
Let me put this very simply for you.
When you are sick you need to be able to access and afford healthcare.
Failing which people will live less as they do in the US.
 

The Oracle

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They dont cause it.
Caveat: Inequality and poverty can. If you are broke and eat McDonalds everyday, your health is going to tank.
But healthcare access can treat it.
You cant afford or access healthcare, your life is cut short.
McDonalds ain't that cheap my friend.
 
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WyattEarp

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i am not even a liberal ;) Ask any mom if they are happy that pads are provided for free. You will get your answer.
I was responding to a post on the U.S. pushing transgender bathrooms.
When I say we have free tampons for everyone......I literally mean everyone.
In other words, we have free tampons in the men's bathroom particularly in government buildings.
 

jalimon

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McDonalds ain't that cheap my friend.
Which is a good thing. Poorer people need to learn basic cooking. A simple Mushroom Risotto cost nothing to make. Add cabbage to it.

Its a cultural thing. My 2 teens are 17 and 15. They need a veggie and a fruit every day or even meal. Their body is conditioned to it.
 

james t kirk

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I called it weeks ago.

Kamala Harris was a weak candidate who should never have been the nominee. When Biden quit, the DNC launched into affirmative action mode and anointed Kamala based on her being a woman of colour. They ignored all the facts that she was a useless VP, who never would have won if it had of been a normal primary.

Kamala was just Hillary Clinton 2.0.

Jesus the powers that be at the DNC are fucking stupid.

It's late and I have to get up in a few hours and so I don't have any time to go n about this disaster.

But I spelled it all out weeks ago here:

 

WyattEarp

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Let me put this very simply for you.
When you are sick you need to be able to access and afford healthcare.
Failing which people will live less as they do in the US.
I'm sorry I disagree. I believe obesity and other poor lifestyle choices are the main driver of life expectancy. Obesity might have a strong correlation with poverty, but that doesn't make it the cause. I'm sure you know correlation is not causation.

You are merely repeating an argument that U.S. liberals make in order to argue for more govt. control of healthcare. The govt. can solve that problem it has nothing to do with individual choice.

I'm pretty sure you also don't understand public healthcare programs like Medicaid and Medicare. We have public health insurance, but it coexists with private health insurance.
 

Leimonis

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I called it weeks ago.

Kamala Harris was a weak candidate who should never have been the nominee. When Biden quit, the DNC launched into affirmative action mode and anointed Kamala based on her being a woman of colour. They ignored all the facts that she was a useless VP, who never would have won if it had of been a normal primary.

Kamala was just Hillary Clinton 2.0.

Jesus the powers that be at the DNC are fucking stupid.

It's late and I have to get up in a few hours and so I don't have any time to go n about this disaster.

But I spelled it all out weeks ago here:

Yep dems really had to work hard to lose to a smug felon/fraudster/Putin’s whore and they managed to do it very well
 

WyattEarp

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I called it weeks ago.

Kamala Harris was a weak candidate who should never have been the nominee. When Biden quit, the DNC launched into affirmative action mode and anointed Kamala based on her being a woman of colour. They ignored all the facts that she was a useless VP, who never would have won if it had of been a normal primary.

Kamala was just Hillary Clinton 2.0.

Jesus the powers that be at the DNC are fucking stupid.

It's late and I have to get up in a few hours and so I don't have any time to go n about this disaster.

But I spelled it all out weeks ago here:

It would have been interesting and probably more decisive in a ideological sense if Gavin Newsom was the nominee back this Spring. U.S. progressives will continue to argue that they just needed a better progressive candidate or worse the party needs to turn harder to the Left to attract voters.

I think their success depends more on a candidate like Gretchen Whitmer or Josh Shapiro. Blue Wall state leaders who are left of center.
 

WyattEarp

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Yep dems really had to work hard to lose to a smug felon/fraudster/Putin’s whore and they managed to do it very well
Do you really understand what Democrats are selling? Don't you think the Dems wanted to run against Trump?

Sometimes I think Trudeau is a lighter more palatable version of our Democrats. However, I must confess I don't follow Trudeau and the Liberal party's governance day to day.
 

JohnLarue

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I was responding to a post on the U.S. pushing transgender bathrooms.
When I say we have free tampons for everyone......I literally mean everyone.
In other words, we have free tampons in the men's bathroom particularly in government buildings.

''free tampons in the men's bathroom particularly in government buildings.''

as useful as tits on a bull

this is simply burning taxpayers money to be woke

money that could have been spent on education, health care, highways, or defense
 

Leimonis

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Do you really understand what Democrats are selling? Don't you think the Dems wanted to run against Trump?
I cannot claim that I understand that. It must have been very much a shit sandwich if it performed worse than Trump.
 

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If a win according to ABC…


If he returns to the White House, Trump has vowed to fire Jack Smith, the special counsel who has brought two federal cases against him, "within two seconds"; he has said he would punish the prosecutors and judges overseeing his cases; and he will likely avoid serious consequences for any of the criminal charges he continues to face.

"If he wins, say goodbye to all the criminal cases," said Karen Friedman Agnifilo, who previously served as the chief of the Manhattan district attorney's trial division.

"The criminal cases are over, whether it's legally or practically," added Friedman Agnifilo, who said a Trump victory would be a "get out of jail free card" for the former president.
 

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As I said back in July, when Biden dropped out, Harris isn't going to win. America isn't ready for a female President. Fuckin democrats fucked up again just like Hillary.
 

JohnLarue

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If a win according to ABC…


If he returns to the White House, Trump has vowed to fire Jack Smith, the special counsel who has brought two federal cases against him, "within two seconds"; he has said he would punish the prosecutors and judges overseeing his cases; and he will likely avoid serious consequences for any of the criminal charges he continues to face.

"If he wins, say goodbye to all the criminal cases," said Karen Friedman Agnifilo, who previously served as the chief of the Manhattan district attorney's trial division.

"The criminal cases are over, whether it's legally or practically," added Friedman Agnifilo, who said a Trump victory would be a "get out of jail free card" for the former president.
are you surprised by this?
 

WyattEarp

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As I said back in July, when Biden dropped out, Harris isn't going to win. America isn't ready for a female President. Fuckin democrats fucked up again just like Hillary.
Aren't you ignoring that she or her handlers didn't run a great campaign? And realistically, it was really stupid for Hillary to not pay much attention to PA, MI and WI in 2016. And go ahead blame the Russians for Hillary's loss if that's your thing.

Let's give Obama credit for his political skills. Biden had a certain connection to voters, but he would not have won if COVID didn't hit on 2020.

I believe a strong female candidate will emerge soon and be our President. I'm betting she won't be a progressive.
 
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JohnLarue

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As I said back in July, when Biden dropped out, Harris isn't going to win. America isn't ready for a female President. Fuckin democrats fucked up again just like Hillary.

oh i am not 100% sure America isn't ready for a female President.

They might very well be ready for an intelligent female President.

Some could argue Hillary Clinton is an intelligent female
its debatable as
it was really stupid for Hillary to not pay much attention to PA, MI and WI in 2016.

They might very well be ready for an intelligent non-arrogant female President.

voting for a candidate because she is a female ?? Hmmmm ???
sort of like voting for a candidate to be Prime Minister because he has a famous last name
And we all know how that has worked out

voters should support the candidate who's policy platform aligns best with the voter's views .
independent of the candidates gender, race, religion etc.
 
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