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Anbarandy

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Blame Trudeau for letting so many foreign students into the country, then kicking them out.
Not an Ontario problem.
The Feds control who gets into the county, not the province.
But nice try at shifting blame as usual.
Waste of time responding.

In one ear, out the other.

How does someone have a conversation based in reality with a zombie?

Go back to when your Thug in the Pink Palace first took office and the years thereafter.

- In 2019, your dearest Thug cut tuition fees by 10% and then froze the fees till this day. Five years and counting of freezing these fees and the much needed revenue it brings to Ontario's post-secondary education institutions. His own Ministry of Education taskforce besieged the premier in 2024 to raise fees for in-province students after a yearly freezes preceded by a 10% cut, but noooooooo, the Thug did not.

- The Thug's own expert panel's report says provinces outside Ontario provide universities an average of $20,772 in funding per full-time-equivalent student. Ontario's annual funding is little more than half of that: $11,471. "Ontario is a long, long way below what's being spent in the rest of the provinces," said Alex Usher, who leads the post-secondary consulting firm Higher Education Strategy Associates. "We want a world class system, but we don't want to pay for it," Usher said in an interview.

- His analysis is that the government created the panel to give it justification for ending the tuition freeze, not to get advice that it should boost provincial funding.

- Usher says the government would need to spend $4 billion annually to meet the national average for provincial funding to universities, and says there's no way that can be found through operating more efficiently. "There isn't $4 billion worth of savings in the system," he said. "Our institutions churn out graduates much more cheaply in terms of public money than anybody else. I don't think there's that many more efficiencies to get."

- The government of Ontario operates and funds education in this province, not the federal government. It is solely the Thug's responsibility.

- The Thug has starved post-secondary education starting in 2019 and continues to today and going forward.

You are a waste of time responding to!


PS > Oh and before you respond, NO, hell frickin NO, increasing post-secondary education funding by $400 million per year for the next 3 years and promising to root out inefficiencies within the system that don't frickin exist does NOT even begin to properly fund the post-secondary system that has been starved for 5 years, to the tune of $4billion dollars per year and counting your dear frickin leader, the Thug in the Pink Palace who solely and wholly created this disaster and whose only concern is handing out $3.2billion in bribes for an election that is not needed, not required, nor wanted. Oh, and playing on the basest of base culture wars with stupid deluded tunnel visions of grandeur and car is king culture wars.
 
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Skoob

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Waste of time responding.

In one ear, out the other.

How does someone have a conversation based in reality with a zombie?

Go back to when your Thug in the Pink Palace first took office and the years thereafter.

- In 2019, your dearest Thug cut tuition fees by 10% and then froze the fees till this day. Five years and counting of freezing these fees and the much needed revenue it brings to Ontario's post-secondary education institutions. His own Ministry of Education taskforce besieged the premier in 2024 to raise fees for in-province students after a yearly freezes preceded by a 10% cut, but noooooooo, the Thug did not.

- The Thug's own expert panel's report says provinces outside Ontario provide universities an average of $20,772 in funding per full-time-equivalent student. Ontario's annual funding is little more than half of that: $11,471. "Ontario is a long, long way below what's being spent in the rest of the provinces," said Alex Usher, who leads the post-secondary consulting firm Higher Education Strategy Associates. "We want a world class system, but we don't want to pay for it," Usher said in an interview.

- His analysis is that the government created the panel to give it justification for ending the tuition freeze, not to get advice that it should boost provincial funding.

- Usher says the government would need to spend $4 billion annually to meet the national average for provincial funding to universities, and says there's no way that can be found through operating more efficiently. "There isn't $4 billion worth of savings in the system," he said. "Our institutions churn out graduates much more cheaply in terms of public money than anybody else. I don't think there's that many more efficiencies to get."

- The government of Ontario operates and funds education in this province, not the federal government. It is solely the Thug's responsibility.

- The Thug has starved post-secondary education starting in 2019 and continues to today and going forward.

You are a waste of time responding to!


PS > Oh and before you respond, NO, hell frickin NO, increasing post-secondary education funding by $400 million per year for the next 3 years and promising to root out inefficiencies within the system that don't frickin exist does NOT even begin to properly fund the post-secondary system that has been starved for 5 years, to the tune of $4billion dollars per year and counting your dear frickin leader, the Thug in the Pink Palace who solely and wholly created this disaster and whose only concern is handing out $3.2billion in bribes for an election that is not needed, not required, nor wanted. Oh, and playing on the basest of base culture wars with stupid deluded tunnel visions of grandeur and car is king culture wars.
"Waste of time responding"...then responds with the usual word salad novel!

The Ontario government helping lower tuitions for domestic students and putting students first rather than the fat expenses of faculty is a good thing.
 
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Anbarandy

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The Ontario government helping lower tuitions for domestic students and putting students first rather than the fat expenses of faculty is a good thing.
The result being post-secondary education in crisis directly due to the above quoted bumper sticker, fridge magnet, placard sloganeering.

$4billion per year in provincial funding and revenue from tuition fees, for years, is needed just to bring the Thug's shithole post education system in line with the average of all the provinces in Canada.

Stop the carnage. Stem the slide into shithole post education third world infamy.

Fund post-secondary education as other provinces do instead of wasting multi billions of $$$s on election grifting schemes; monster above ground or below water parking garages, public asset giveaways to private interests and car culture war delusions of grandeur.
 
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The result being post-secondary education in crisis directly due to the above quoted bumper sticker, fridge magnet, placard sloganeering.

$4billion per year in provincial funding and revenue from tuition fees, for years, is needed just to bring the Thug's shithole post education system in line with the average of all the provinces in Canada.

Stop the carnage. Stem the slide into shithole post education third world infamy.

Fund post-secondary education as other provinces do instead of wasting multi billions of $$$s on election grifting schemes; monster above ground or below water parking garages, public asset giveaways to private interests and car culture war delusions of grandeur.
The only thing standing between your hatred-fueled biased misinformation campaign and reality are the facts.

Ontario will provide a major short-term funding boost to colleges and universities to "stabilize" their finances, but won't allow them to increase tuition fees for in-province students for at least three more years, Minister of Colleges and Universities Jill Dunlop said Monday.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/colleges-universities-funding-1.7125499


The province’s education budget for the 2024-25 school year is Ontario’s largest ever, with an education funding total of $29 billion, the Ministry of Education announced.
https://www.insidehalton.com/news/h...cle_a678d7b6-880c-5cb1-8b8e-909ce35562d5.html

Now go tell your school trustees that they have plenty of money to fund their lavish European trips!
 
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Anbarandy

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PS > Oh and before you respond, NO, hell frickin NO, increasing post-secondary education funding by $400 million per year for the next 3 years and promising to root out inefficiencies within the system that don't frickin exist does NOT even begin to properly fund the post-secondary system that has been starved for 5 years, to the tune of $4billion dollars per year and counting your dear frickin leader, the Thug in the Pink Palace who solely and wholly created this disaster and whose only concern is handing out $3.2billion in bribes for an election that is not needed, not required, nor wanted. Oh, and playing on the basest of base culture wars with stupid deluded tunnel visions of grandeur and car is king culture wars.
Ontario will provide a major short-term funding boost to colleges and universities to "stabilize" their finances, but won't allow them to increase tuition fees for in-province students for at least three more years, Minister of Colleges and Universities Jill Dunlop said Monday.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/colleges-universities-funding-1.7125499
"I do good master? Zombie do, what master Thug want."

"Yes Igor. Bwahahaha!" - Thug Fraud
 

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"I do good master? Zombie do, what master Thug want."

"Yes Igor. Bwahahaha!" - Thug Fraud
The usual gibberish after I've crushed your argument.
 
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Anbarandy

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The usual gibberish after I've crushed your argument.
Sure Igor, sure. Do, say what ur master, dear leader Druggie von Thugula sayeth.

Everything is a childish game of "I win, you lose, because I say so" to you, isn't it?

You are just like one of your heroes, that 34 time convicted felon and rapist and sore loser and insurrectionist who is unhinged from facts and reality.

Tell me how, how does increasing post-education funding by just $400 million per year for just 3 years instead of the $4 billion/ per year as recommended by the Thug's own personally chosen task force to bring the Thug's post-secondary education system funding in line with the average of all the other provinces in Ontario?

Zombies not only do not recognize facts, they also subsist in a dimension far removed from reality.
 
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Skoob

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Sure Igor, sure. Do, say what ur master, dear leader Druggie von Thugula sayeth.

Everything is a childish game of "I win, you lose, because I say so" to you, isn't it?

You are just like one of your heroes, that 34 time convicted felon and rapist and sore loser and insurrectionist who is unhinged from facts and reality.

Tell me how, how does increasing post-education funding by just $400 million per year for just 3 years instead of the $4 billion/ per year as recommended by the Thug's own personally chosen task force to bring the Thug's post-secondary education system funding in line with the average of all the other provinces in Ontario?

Zombies not only do not recognize facts, they also subsist in a dimension removed from reality.
Poor fat faculty, always crying that they don't have enough money to go on European trips on the taxpayer dime.

Just because your argument crumbles the more you try and peddle false narratives then try to distract from your failure isn't me declaring I won...it's more you declaring you lost.
 
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Anbarandy

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Tell me how, how does increasing post-education funding by just $400 million per year for just 3 years instead of the $4 billion/ per year as recommended by the Thug's own personally chosen task force to bring the Thug's post-secondary education system funding in line with the average of all the other provinces in Ontario?
Poor fat faculty, always crying that they don't have enough money to go on European trips on the taxpayer dime.

Just because your argument crumbles the more you try and peddle false narratives then try to distract from your failure isn't me declaring I won...it's more you declaring you lost.
"Great Igor! My job is to keep you my bestest zombie and my entire zombie army and all the rubes, hicks, hayseeds and yokels who can be bought off with just $200 of their own money as clueless, witless and dumb as fuck!" - Your Dear Leader, Druggian von Fraudula Kim un Junk
 

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"Great Igor! My job is to keep you my bestest zombie and my entire zombie army and all the rubes, hicks, hayseeds and yokels who can be bought off with just $200 of their own money as clueless, witless and dumb as fuck!" - Your Dear Leader, Druggian von Fraudula Kim un Junk
Tell it to the school Trustees who cry poor except when taking lavish European trips on taxpayer money.
You're rage is misplaced.
 
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Anbarandy

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Tell it to the school Trustees who cry poor except when taking lavish European trips on taxpayer money.
You're rage is misplaced.
A monumental wasteful $3.4billion bribery and grifting of hardworking Ontarians by the Thug for an election that is not legislated for, required, necessary, needed and wanted versus a $188,000 by trustees at a school board most of which is being paid back.

The utter gall and mendacity that you display is truly Fordinian.
 

Skoob

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A monumental wasteful $3.4billion bribery and grifting of hardworking Ontarians by the Thug for an election that is not legislated for, required, necessary, needed and wanted versus a $188,000 by trustees at a school board most of which is being paid back.

The utter gall and mendacity that you display is truly Fordinian.
The entitlement and spending that we only see a glimpse of by the greedy school boards is scary.
You should be scared too.

ps are you suggesting a 3rd majority government for Ontario?
 
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Anbarandy

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The entitlement and spending that we only see a glimpse of by the greedy school boards is scary.
It pales into insignificance when you cannot quantify the basis of "we only see a glimpse of" especially in light of the quantifying of the $3.4billion your dear leader will pickpocket from Ontario taxpayers to bribe them with not his, but their own money for an unlegislated, unnecessary, unwanted election.
 

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It pales into insignificance when you cannot quantify the basis of "we only see a glimpse of" especially in light of the quantifying of the $3.4billion your dear leader will pickpocket from Ontario taxpayers to bribe them with not his, but their own money for an unlegislated, unnecessary, unwanted election.
Awwww...you're upset because the grownups balanced the budget...that's cute.


Ontario ends 2023-24 with nearly balanced budget
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-nearly-balanced-budget-1.7328085
 
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Sue Ann Levy, commie hunter!
She's great.

She's female, gay and Jewish. So you can't use the usual leftist attack tactics on her other than (Gasp!) she's conservative.
 
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"Waste of time responding"...then responds with the usual word salad novel!

The Ontario government helping lower tuitions for domestic students and putting students first rather than the fat expenses of faculty is a good thing.
Ontario, and every other province needs to completely rethink its funding of universities. There are far too many programs which never led, or no longer lead to productive employment. I haven't studied how each university plans to respond to belt tightening, but in general, belt tightening is the direction that funding should be moving.

It's amazing to me (amazingly incompetent) that we apparently can't produce enough nurses to match turnover in the labour force, but universities never increase their nursing class sizes and the result is a ridiculous admission standard of 90+ grade averages but an application process that seems to do a poor job of projecting who will actually stick with the job when reality hits. On the other hand, often the most populous faculties at universities are Arts and Social Sciences, for which there is no longer any demand in the labour force.

If the universities could only successly teach one thing - what the word "investment" really means- perhaps they could begin to get their houses in order.

We could quibble over the details, but cutting back transfers to universities is a step in the right direction.
 

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She's great.

She's female, gay and Jewish. So you can't use the usual leftist attack tactics on her other than (Gasp!) she's conservative.
And one day, after decades and decades at hunting for commies camp ........

Hey ladies, Skooobie and Suze, your slip McCarthyism and Cohnism is showing.
 

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And one day, after decades and decades at hunting for commies camp ........

Hey ladies, Skooobie and Suze, your slip McCarthyism and Cohnism is showing.
You sound jealous of her accomplishments. You should compare yours to hers and then get back to us with your insight.
 
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