Trudeau harming relations between India and Canada?

[bver_hunter]

Verma has DI and cannot be charged.
No country will entertain their top diplomat being charged either, so it is expected they will refuse to waive.
So what was the purpose of all this drama?
You said they expelled and not recalled.
Why would the diplomat that Canada wants to charge be expelled?
It would be natural for India to refuse to waive and recall.
Dont forget, they did not even get to talk to him, so how did they have anything concrete on him?
Nothing adds up when you look at it logically.

You are making the Point that someone who has DI cannot be charged. That is why they should have co-operated with Canada like they did with the USA.
Countries like the USA and The UK were supporting Canada in this respect. Unlike the USA, the link here is not only just a Government "official" but also a High Commissioner.
Obviously, this will be a huge embarrassment to the Govt. of India. You call threats including assassinations to Canadian Citizens a "drama"? Really??
The Government of Canda stated that these Diplomats were expelled as they refused to get a waiver for their DI. If they were innocent why did they not agree to it?
Everything adds up to them being responsible for all these threats, extortion and assassination of Nijjar Singh!!

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

You are making the Point that someone who has DI cannot be charged.

So then why not charge him then which is what I said before!
You are going in circles.
You appear discombobulated.
And these guys are terrorists.
Whoever let these guys in?
That was Trudeau's dad, Pierre.
Like father, like son.
Now we need another Pierre to fix this mess.

 

[bver_hunter]

The guy who was charged is a former spy.
He is no longer working with the Indian government.
I read that he is currently arrested by the police and charged with kidnapping a businessman.
Smart play by the Indian government.
They "fired" the one who was caught, and fake charged him with a domestic crime, so they dont have to extradite.
He will likely quietly be released while the government stays tight lipped about his whereabouts. lol.
On the other hand, Canada comes across as completely unprepared.
I was reading that the Indian foreign minister has 45 years of experience being a diplomat. His father was also a diplomat.
Melanie Joly is 45 years old and is the former heritage minister. Her age is his experience!.
Trudeau put her in the cabinet for looking pretty.
This is why these guys run circles around us.
What an embarrassement with Trudeau. He needs to go.

Once again the USA has the evidence that this guy who was arrested, was involved with an attempt to the killing of a USA Citizen at the behest of the Govt. of India.
Vassy Kapelos mentioned that to Verma, and all he did in response was to say that Canada and The USA are two different countries and situation. Then went on and on with no evidence provided etc. But he knew that it is a fact that India was directing this Indian official with this attempted killing!!
You seem to think that those agents who commit the crimes is funny!! We know that he will probably not even spend a single day in jail, but secretly sent to some private property to live there as Modi will consider him to be a hero!!
See when someone has Diplomatic Immunity, and the commit crimes on a foreign soil, including even murders then all the Government of that Nation can only request a waiver. If the High Commission refuses that waiver, then the Government can only expel that Diplomat. That is what Canada did and the Indian press lied that these Diplomats were "Recalled"!!
Modi is the Snake as this is how he is conducting himself to copycat Putin!!

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Once again the USA has the evidence that this guy who was arrested, was involved with an attempt to the killing of a USA Citizen at the behest of the Govt. of India.
Vassy Kapelos mentioned that to Verma, and all he did in response was to say that Canada and The USA are two different countries and situation. T

He is right.
They are different cases.
The US had the evidence, and charged the guy even though he was not in custody.
Trudeau just keeps talking.

 

[bver_hunter]

So then why not charge him then which is what I said before!
You are going in circles.
You appear discombobulated.
And these guys are terrorists.
Whoever let these guys in?
That was Trudeau's dad, Pierre.
Like father, like son.
Now we need another Pierre to fix this mess.

Can you still not comprehend that these Diplomats CANNOT BE CHARGED as they have Diplomatic Immunity?
You are the one going in circles. All the Canadian Govt. could do was to Expel them and that is what they did.........PERIOD!!
The rest is you waffling about sweet nothing. Glad you agree that Modi is harbouring terrorists in foreign nations!!

 

[DesRicardo]

I guess Bver has top level clearance and knows what the evidence is. I'm sure of it.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

You seem to think that those agents who commit the crimes is funny!! We know that he will probably not even spend a single day in jail, but secretly sent to some private property to live there as Modi will consider him to be a hero!!

Yes he wont spend a day in jail.
To his country and his government he is a hero and a loyal servant.

 

[bver_hunter]

He is right.
They are different cases.
The US had the evidence, and charged the guy even though he was not in custody.
Trudeau just keeps talking.

Well then The Canadian Govt are right that the Indian Govt. are involved in Extortion, Threats and Assassination. We can agree on that then!!

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Can you still not comprehend that these Diplomats CANNOT BE CHARGED as they have Diplomatic Immunity?
You are the one going in circles. All the Canadian Govt. could do was to Expel them and that is what they did.........PERIOD!!
The rest is you waffling about sweet nothing. Glad you agree that Modi is harbouring terrorists in foreign nations!!

You just said that someone with DI can be charged and now you are saying he cannot be charged.
If he can be charged, why wasn't he charged?
If he cannot be charged, why the drama?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Well then The Canadian Govt are right that the Indian Govt. are involved in Extortion, Threats and Assassination. We can agree on that then!!

If it is true.
Ask Trudeau to present the evidence or charge someone.
Otherwise it is just "trust me bro".

 

[bver_hunter]

You just said that someone with DI can be charged and now you are saying he cannot be charged.
If he can be charged, why wasn't he charged?
If he cannot be charged, why the drama?

Where did I say that someone wit h DI "Can be Charged". I said that the Indian Govt / High Commission needs to waive the immunity for them to be charged or involved in further investigations. Did you know that conducting such crimes is illegal?
What "drama" are you referring to, when something as serious with foreign interference involving killings is the biggest issue for diplomats??

 

[bver_hunter]

If it is true.
Ask Trudeau to present the evidence or charge someone.
Otherwise it is just "trust me bro".

Once again the evidence was provided and they are denying it as they named the 6 specific diplomats involved in it!!
If they are innocent why not co-operate?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Once again the evidence was provided and they are denying it as they named the 6 specific diplomats involved in it!!
If they are innocent why not co-operate?

They did not even meet.
How was the evidence provided?
They have said no evidence was provided.
Why will any country entertain this?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Where did I say that someone wit h DI "Can be Charged". I said that the Indian Govt / High Commission needs to waive the immunity for them to be charged or involved in further investigations. Did you know that conducting such crimes is illegal?
What "drama" are you referring to, when something as serious with foreign interference involving killings is the biggest issue for diplomats??

In your previous post.
Why will they waive immunity?
So naive!

 

[Frankfooter]

In your previous post.
Why will they waive immunity?
So naive!

Where is PeePee?
Is he out of hiding yet?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1848378774074900784

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Where is PeePee?
Is he out of hiding yet?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1848378774074900784

He is sitting pretty.
Watching Trudeau's mess.

 

[Frankfooter]

He is sitting pretty.
Watching Trudeau's mess.

nope

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1848376745118114277

 

[silentkisser]

If it is true.
Ask Trudeau to present the evidence or charge someone.
Otherwise it is just "trust me bro".

You have a very simplistic view point here, and don't seem to understand there are multiple reasons why they cannot present evidence to the public. First, they likely don't have a so-called smoking gun, but intelligence from the Five Eyes....but this also means showing it could jeopardize agents or methods. So, it is a difficult thing to do even at the diplomatic level. As for charging someone, I'm sure if they had the ability to do so, they would. As previously mentioned, embassy staff have diplomatic immunity, so they could only expel them....which is what happened.

We do not know all the facts, and likely never will. But, this really has nothing to do with Trudeau or your dislike for him.

Now, as we look at PP, the fact that he is willfully remaining ignorant on all of this speaks volumes. He would rather be able to say bullshit instead of actually getting the facts.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

You have a very simplistic view point here, and don't seem to understand there are multiple reasons why they cannot present evidence to the public. First, they likely don't have a so-called smoking gun, but intelligence from the Five Eyes....but this also means showing it could jeopardize agents or methods. So, it is a difficult thing to do even at the diplomatic level. As for charging someone, I'm sure if they had the ability to do so, they would. As previously mentioned, embassy staff have diplomatic immunity, so they could only expel them....which is what happened.

We do not know all the facts, and likely never will. But, this really has nothing to do with Trudeau or your dislike for him.

Now, as we look at PP, the fact that he is willfully remaining ignorant on all of this speaks volumes. He would rather be able to say bullshit instead of actually getting the facts.

Pierre does not have to do anything to clean up Trudeau's mess.
What you have confirmed is that this shouldn't have been public in the first place.
Ruined relations with a growing world power and trade partner.
This is Trudeau's incompetence.

 

[boobtoucher]

You have a very simplistic view point here, and don't seem to understand there are multiple reasons why they cannot present evidence to the public. First, they likely don't have a so-called smoking gun, but intelligence from the Five Eyes....but this also means showing it could jeopardize agents or methods. So, it is a difficult thing to do even at the diplomatic level. As for charging someone, I'm sure if they had the ability to do so, they would. As previously mentioned, embassy staff have diplomatic immunity, so they could only expel them....which is what happened.

We do not know all the facts, and likely never will. But, this really has nothing to do with Trudeau or your dislike for him.

Now, as we look at PP, the fact that he is willfully remaining ignorant on all of this speaks volumes. He would rather be able to say bullshit instead of actually getting the facts.

Somewhere in here there's reference to us having Primary Intelligence. Primary intelligence is "we saw them do this". You don't kick a diplomat out unless you have "smoking gun" evidence. The reason you can't present that is because India will then know where and when they were being watched, and then can extrapolate how and who, which puts our people, and our intelligence gathering capability at risk.

Secondary intelligence is "someone told us", and Tertiary is "I know a guy that knows a guy."

For all of Trudeau's failings, being a bureaucrat is not one of them. The guy has never stepped a foot out of rules-based leadership, even the invocation of the emergencies act was passed by parliament.

Anyone with half an understanding of international relations can see that this is a serious national security issue, and not a time to play team sports. If PP were serious about Canada, he'd be busting ass to identify and expel anyone in his party under the sway of a foreign governmetn. Instead, he's putting his thirst for power ahead of our national security...

And, like the coward he is, has disappeared as soon as the heat got turned up. Some leader he'll be.