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Frankfooter said:
You agree that Israel, as a signatory to the Geneva Conventions, is legally and morally obligated for the well being of those they occupy, even if its an illegal occupation.
Israel is entirely responsible for the occupation, blockade, apartheid and genocide.
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Like I said before. We are in agreement.

We agree that it does not say "make things better".
 
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Frankfooter

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shack said:
What percent of Israeli Jews do you think are Zionists, Geno?

That's always been the question that makes you pee your pants.
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Answered months ago.
Don't blame me if you are going senile.

Are you still trying to argue that you think all Jews in Israel are genocidal supremacists who cheer for killing children?
Personally, I think that line of argument from you is incredibly antisemitic.
 
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Frankfooter said:
There were no elections because only Abbas could call one and he refused because he knew he would lose.
What did Hamas do? They were the government, they ran Gaza and they resisted the occupation.
How can you make life better when you live under blockade and apartheid occupation?
The only ones that controlled quality of life are the Israelis who are occupying them.

What do you think Hamas, the PA or Hezbollah could do that would have ended the occupation?

You're also missing the most biggest changes, even if they will take years to take place.
The UN and ICJ ruled the occupation is illegal and Israel must end it, that's a massive shift that hadn't been possible in 76 years of occupation.
Israel is winning battles but globally they are now a pariah state, zionists will forever be listed as genocidal movements like the nazis.

What do you think Israel will gain out of this?
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I agree the occupation is illegal.
But I dont see Hamas as a positive force.
 
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Frankfooter

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Shaquille Oatmeal said:
I agree the occupation is illegal.
But I dont see Hamas as a positive force.
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Hamas was seen as resisting the occupation, while the PA was enabling it.
That makes them more popular.

The occupation and apartheid have been the largest issues there for 76 years. You can't do anything else too positive while you can't even control imports and exports.
This was 12 years ago, but it hasn't changed much since then.
www.timesofisrael.com

Israel counted calorie requirements of Gazans during blockade

Defense Ministry says newly-revealed 2008 document was never used to restrict the flow of food into the strip
www.timesofisrael.com www.timesofisrael.com


Banned Items Gaza Blockade

Based on the provided search results, here is a comprehensive list of banned or restricted items in the Gaza Strip due to the Israeli blockade:
Initial List (2010)
  • Cardamom
  • Cumin
  • Coriander
  • Ginger
  • Jam
  • Vinegar
  • Halva
  • Chocolate
  • Fruit preserves
  • Seeds and nuts
  • Biscuits and sweets
  • Potato chips
  • Gas for soft drinks
  • Dried fruit
  • Fresh meat
  • Plaster
  • Tar
  • Wood for construction
  • Cement
  • Iron
  • Glucose
  • Industrial salt
  • Plastic/glass/metal containers
  • Industrial margarine
  • Tarpaulin sheets for huts
  • Fabric (for clothing)
  • Flavor and smell enhancers
  • Fishing rods
  • Various fishing nets
  • Buoys
  • Ropes for fishing
  • Nylon nets for greenhouses
  • Hatcheries and spare parts for hatcheries
  • Spare parts for tractors
  • Dairies for cowsheds
  • Irrigation pipe systems
  • Ropes to tie greenhouses
  • Planters for saplings
  • Heaters for chicken farms
  • Musical instruments
  • Size A4 paper
  • Writing implements
  • Notebooks
  • Newspapers
  • Toys
  • Razors
  • Sewing machines and spare parts
  • Horses
  • Donkeys
  • Goats
  • Cattle
  • Chicks
  • Fresh fish
  • Canned vegetables
  • Processed cheese
  • Margarine
  • Pastry
  • Lentils
  • Pasta
  • Tomato paste
  • Cookies
  • Instant soup
  • Baby formula
  • Juice
  • Soda
  • Tea
  • Coffee
  • Flavorings and spices
  • Fresh apples
  • Grapes
  • Melons
  • Plums
  • Avocados
  • Garlic
  • Wheat
  • Rice
  • Sugar
  • Salt
  • Cooking oil
  • Fresh milk
  • Yogurt
  • Ice cream
  • Snack foods
  • Heaters
  • Fans
  • Refrigerators
  • Washing machines
  • Gas for cooking
  • Light bulbs
  • Candles
  • Matches
  • Batteries
  • Flashlights
  • Generators
  • Light fixtures
  • Electric shavers
  • Computers
  • Printers
  • Scanners
  • Blank CDs and DVDs
  • Radios
  • Televisions
  • Cell phones
  • Microwave ovens
  • Air conditioners
  • Heaters
  • Cameras
  • Video cameras
  • Photocopiers
  • Paper
  • Pens
  • Toys
  • Playing cards
  • Chess sets
  • Sports equipment
  • Fishing rods
  • Binoculars
  • Telescopes
  • Cigarettes
  • Shaving cream
  • Shampoo
  • Soap
  • Toothpaste
  • Dental floss
  • Deodorant
  • Perfume
  • Makeup
  • Skin care products
  • Nail polish
  • Sanitary napkins
  • Diapers
  • Toilet paper
  • Towels
  • Bedding
Revised List (2016)
  • Iron
  • Steel
  • Cinder blocks
  • Chemicals
  • Fertilizer
  • Building aggregates
  • Jeeps (only permitted under international supervision)
Revised List (2019)
  • Cement (only permitted under international supervision)
  • Lumber (only permitted under international supervision)
  • Fertilizer (banned due to potential use in explosives)
Other Items
  • Wheelchairs (have been banned at various times)
 
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Frankfooter said:
Hamas was seen as resisting the occupation, while the PA was enabling it.
That makes them more popular.

The occupation and apartheid have been the largest issues there for 76 years. You can't do anything else too positive while you can't even control imports and exports.
This was 12 years ago, but it hasn't changed much since then.
www.timesofisrael.com

Israel counted calorie requirements of Gazans during blockade

Defense Ministry says newly-revealed 2008 document was never used to restrict the flow of food into the strip
www.timesofisrael.com www.timesofisrael.com


Banned Items Gaza Blockade

Based on the provided search results, here is a comprehensive list of banned or restricted items in the Gaza Strip due to the Israeli blockade:
Initial List (2010)
  • Cardamom
  • Cumin
  • Coriander
  • Ginger
  • Jam
  • Vinegar
  • Halva
  • Chocolate
  • Fruit preserves
  • Seeds and nuts
  • Biscuits and sweets
  • Potato chips
  • Gas for soft drinks
  • Dried fruit
  • Fresh meat
  • Plaster
  • Tar
  • Wood for construction
  • Cement
  • Iron
  • Glucose
  • Industrial salt
  • Plastic/glass/metal containers
  • Industrial margarine
  • Tarpaulin sheets for huts
  • Fabric (for clothing)
  • Flavor and smell enhancers
  • Fishing rods
  • Various fishing nets
  • Buoys
  • Ropes for fishing
  • Nylon nets for greenhouses
  • Hatcheries and spare parts for hatcheries
  • Spare parts for tractors
  • Dairies for cowsheds
  • Irrigation pipe systems
  • Ropes to tie greenhouses
  • Planters for saplings
  • Heaters for chicken farms
  • Musical instruments
  • Size A4 paper
  • Writing implements
  • Notebooks
  • Newspapers
  • Toys
  • Razors
  • Sewing machines and spare parts
  • Horses
  • Donkeys
  • Goats
  • Cattle
  • Chicks
  • Fresh fish
  • Canned vegetables
  • Processed cheese
  • Margarine
  • Pastry
  • Lentils
  • Pasta
  • Tomato paste
  • Cookies
  • Instant soup
  • Baby formula
  • Juice
  • Soda
  • Tea
  • Coffee
  • Flavorings and spices
  • Fresh apples
  • Grapes
  • Melons
  • Plums
  • Avocados
  • Garlic
  • Wheat
  • Rice
  • Sugar
  • Salt
  • Cooking oil
  • Fresh milk
  • Yogurt
  • Ice cream
  • Snack foods
  • Heaters
  • Fans
  • Refrigerators
  • Washing machines
  • Gas for cooking
  • Light bulbs
  • Candles
  • Matches
  • Batteries
  • Flashlights
  • Generators
  • Light fixtures
  • Electric shavers
  • Computers
  • Printers
  • Scanners
  • Blank CDs and DVDs
  • Radios
  • Televisions
  • Cell phones
  • Microwave ovens
  • Air conditioners
  • Heaters
  • Cameras
  • Video cameras
  • Photocopiers
  • Paper
  • Pens
  • Toys
  • Playing cards
  • Chess sets
  • Sports equipment
  • Fishing rods
  • Binoculars
  • Telescopes
  • Cigarettes
  • Shaving cream
  • Shampoo
  • Soap
  • Toothpaste
  • Dental floss
  • Deodorant
  • Perfume
  • Makeup
  • Skin care products
  • Nail polish
  • Sanitary napkins
  • Diapers
  • Toilet paper
  • Towels
  • Bedding
Revised List (2016)
  • Iron
  • Steel
  • Cinder blocks
  • Chemicals
  • Fertilizer
  • Building aggregates
  • Jeeps (only permitted under international supervision)
Revised List (2019)
  • Cement (only permitted under international supervision)
  • Lumber (only permitted under international supervision)
  • Fertilizer (banned due to potential use in explosives)
Other Items
  • Wheelchairs (have been banned at various times)
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What a bullshit list.
 
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Frankfooter

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shack said:
Sorry. I forgot that you agreed that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists and it's on the record. Apologies.
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If only you paid attention to your own posts and didn't spend countless hours trying to put words in my mouth.
I have never said that and have repeatedly answered that question.

shack said:
Do you think that you're tired of putting words in other people's mouths yet.
Are you tired of answering questions with questions yet.
Are you tired of giving your robotic replies yet?
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