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Per Chuck Todd well-known conservative at NBC :ROFLMAO::

From his border policy to the economy he has been presiding over to turmoil overseas, there isn’t a lot about the Biden years that voters love in this moment. It’s why former President Donald Trump has basically a 50-50 chance to return to the White House, just four years after voters fired him.

Of course, the reason Trump’s chances aren’t greater than 50-50 is that Democrats finally read the room and switched candidates from Biden to Vice President Kamala Harris. Bottom line: It’s clearer now in hindsight — and perhaps it would have been regardless of that ill-fated debate performance — that Biden simply didn’t have a winning hand to run on. All he had was harnessing backlash over Jan. 6 and abortion, and while both issues do resonate with a significant chunk of the electorate, those two issues alone couldn’t get him to the finish line.


Earp, let's discuss the elephant in the rally forum.

Donnie's senile. Pro GOP media conceal this fact, but Donnie mutters inanities, gets dates and facts wrong and sometimes just stands there and jiggles at his rallies.

Now unless the presidency is enhanced by being occupied by a silly old fucker in depenz who jiggles around and nods and wiggles to Sinead O Connor tracks, instead of giving a speech or discussing policy, he's going to fuck up in the White House.

Biden might nod and do whatever his aides tell him to do. But Donnie will stand there and dance. All through the day.

This ignores his mental dribble about tariffs and the weird old man ranting about the "revenge" he's going to take on his enemies when he's elected.
 

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Earp, let's discuss the elephant in the rally forum.

Donnie's senile. Pro GOP media conceal this fact, but Donnie mutters inanities, gets dates and facts wrong and sometimes just stands there and jiggles at his rallies.

Now unless the presidency is enhanced by being occupied by a silly old fucker in depenz who jiggles around and nods and wiggles to Sinead O Connor tracks, instead of giving a speech or discussing policy, he's going to fuck up in the White House.

Biden might nod and do whatever his aides tell him to do. But Donnie will stand there and dance. All through the day.

This ignores his mental dribble about tariffs and the weird old man ranting about the "revenge" he's going to take on his enemies when he's elected.
Is this a pivot from your declaration that Biden and his handlers are doing a great job?

I only responded to show you that some liberal journalists know that the Biden Administration's tenure isn't going over well with the American people. I don't think voters whether in the U.S. or Canada benefit when they are told how they should feel.
 
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Is this a pivot from your declaration that Biden and his handlers are doing a great job?
No. I thought that he had / has a solid presidency with a number of achievements.Towards the end, much of this may have been Biden giving general directions and his staff doing most of the work.

Should he have attempted to run again?..... No. But none of us has the self awareness to perceive ourselves as the world does. And a staffer - or group of staffers - isn't going to come out and say "The Prez is senile" because that would wreck that staffer's career for disloyalty and other staff would have done cover-up until the problem became public.

All organizations work the same way. No Republican's coming out and saying Trump's senile either. Although he clearly is.

That's the difference between Democrats and Republicans, Earp. Eventually Dems will choose country over party leader.
I only responded to show you that some liberal journalists know that the Biden Administration's tenure isn't going over well with the American people. I don't think voters whether in the U.S. or Canada benefit when they are told how they should feel.
Who's telling anyone "how to feel"?.... I'm confused here.

But give me a straight answer on the issue of Trump's mental state, Earp. Do you agree that he is senile and decrepit and suffering from dementia??
 

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Who's telling anyone "how to feel"?.... I'm confused here.
The TERB political thread is littered with Liberal members proclaiming Americans should feel great about the economy and the immigration problem was never that bad.

You wouldn't post such ideas.
 
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The TERB political thread is littered with Liberal members proclaiming Americans should feel great about the economy and the immigration problem was never that bad.

You wouldn't post such ideas.
The immigration pressure on the Southern border goes up and down depending on conditions in Latin America. We've talked about this. It was also bad in the early 2000's.

And who is the jackass motherfucker who blocked border reform proposed by Biden last spring?

Inflation is now under 2%. Biden did that.

But since we're on the topic, what are Trump's solutions to the above problems?

Trump is a senile fuckwit. He has no solutions to problems. What he has is a cheat sheet listing gripes and whines that he can recite on those better nights that he doesn't just jig around onstage and stare into space.
 

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The immigration pressure on the Southern border goes up and down depending on conditions in Latin America. We've talked about this. It was also bad in the early 2000's.

And who is the jackass motherfucker who blocked border reform proposed by Biden last spring?
You probably know the House would not have passed the legislation Trump or no Trump. The number of migrants it would have allowed was too high for many voters. I'm not exactly sure why we would legitimize a large number of border crossings with an unpopular political arrangement.

I do think everyone remembers you saying for two plus years that there was no problem at the southern border. The U.S. simply had to live by a U.N. convention. Then I think after the problem became a major political liability you were saying the Biden Administration was doing everything Trump did. When the Biden Administration couldn't get their 2023/24 deal, they finally started dealing with the border this year.

Am I really being unfair with my recollection? The great thing about democracy is that voters now get to weigh in.

Inflation is now under 2%. Biden did that.
The Fed did that with raising rates and dramatically reducing the money supply. There is nothing the Biden Administration contributed to lowering inflation.

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PS- Let's start with a general proposition that all politicians are generally insular and often tone-deaf about much of what is happening in the world. So with that I would advise Harris to immediately announce she would fire Mayorkas and take a different path with the border. She confronts her weakness on the border issue. She also shows that her Presidency won't be a continuation of the Biden Presidency. She deals with two problems for her with one stroke.

Now tell me how that's not a good idea. She (and you as well) shouldn't drown yourself over your idealism. It's not our job to save both of you.
 
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You probably know the House would not have passed the legislation Trump or no Trump. The number of migrants it would have allowed was too high for many voters. I'm not exactly sure why we would legitimize a large number of border crossings with an unpopular political arrangement.

I do think everyone remembers you saying for two plus years that there was no problem at the southern border. The U.S. simply had to live by a U.N. convention. Then I think after the problem became a major political liability you were saying the Biden Administration was doing everything Trump did. When the Biden Administration couldn't get their 2023/24 deal, they finally started dealing with the border this year.

Am I really being unfair with my recollection? The great thing about democracy is that voters now get to weigh in.



The Fed did that with raising rates and dramatically reducing the money supply. There is nothing the Biden Administration contributed to lowering inflation.

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PS- Let's start with a general proposition that all politicians are generally insular and often tone-deaf about much of what is happening in the world. So with that I would advise Harris to immediately announce she would fire Mayorkas and take a different path with the border. She confronts her weakness on the border issue. She also shows that her Presidency won't be a continuation of the Biden Presidency. She deals with two problems for her with one stroke.

Now tell me how that's not a good idea. She (and you as well) shouldn't drown yourself over your idealism. It's not our job to save both of you.

Nonsense, they were on board to pass the bill til Trump stopped it. Mitch was pissed and other Repugs were also pissed off. The border guards were all in favor of it as well.
 

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Nonsense, they were on board to pass the bill til Trump stopped it. Mitch was pissed and other Repugs were also pissed off. The border guards were all in favor of it as well.
I believe initially there were enough votes in the Senate, but I don't there was no guarantee that the House Republicans would rally around it. It was a Senate compromise.

Given how the general electorate is responding to the Democrat's handling of the border in election polling, I think it's safe to say they are not impressed with their efforts.

What's great is the border is now far less chaotic. Nothing like an election to trigger a dose of political reality.

PS- I don't think the head of the border patrol gave the deal an enthusiastic thumbs up. It was more ambivalent. Do you know if the union voted on their support? We are finding that unions are not always lockstep with their union heads on political matters.
 
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I believe initially there were enough votes in the Senate, but I don't there was no guarantee that the House Republicans would rally around it. It was a Senate compromise.

Given how the general electorate is responding to the Democrat's handling of the border in election polling, I think it's safe to say they are not impressed with their efforts.

What's great is the border is now far less chaotic. Nothing like an election to trigger a dose of political reality.
The only ones jumping up and down about immigration are decided looney maga voters. Abortion is a huge issue as well, do you believe Trump is doing well at calming down the voters who are against his killing of Roe V. Wade?
 

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The only ones jumping up and down about immigration are decided looney maga voters. Abortion is a huge issue as well, do you believe Trump is doing well at calming down the voters who are against his killing of Roe V. Wade?
I'm afraid you're either ignoring signals from American voters on the immigration issue or you are too laser-focused on U.S. media that is gaslighting their audience.

If Harris loses, I would say immigration was the issue that lost the election. The economy is shaky for many Americans, but in itself she could survive the discontent and win the election. Combine the two issues and you can see the Biden Administration left her with a bad hand.

As far as Abortion, it is a serious Republican liability but it has different electoral features. While I support abortion with limits, it has never been a big issue for me personally because I wear condoms and can drive my partner to a state with legalized abortion if an accident happened. I have had no accidents.
 

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You probably know the House would not have passed the legislation Trump or no Trump. The number of migrants it would have allowed was too high for many voters. I'm not exactly sure why we would legitimize a large number of border crossings with an unpopular political arrangement.
So what you're saying is that the House should never pass compromise legislation??..... Hmmmm. Interesting.
I do think everyone remembers you saying for two plus years that there was no problem at the southern border. The U.S. simply had to live by a U.N. convention. Then I think after the problem became a major political liability you were saying the Biden Administration was doing everything Trump did. When the Biden Administration couldn't get their 2023/24 deal, they finally started dealing with the border this year.

Am I really being unfair with my recollection? The great thing about democracy is that voters now get to weigh in.
What I said was that the US could resile from the UN Convention, but never would because most Republican voters would have no idea what it was or how it affected immigration and that the GOP is so incompetent and corrupt that it would rather keep the problem alive and campaign on it.

The Fed did that with raising rates and dramatically reducing the money supply. There is nothing the Biden Administration contributed to lowering inflation.
So how would Trump have solved the issue?.... Basically by having the Fed raise rates?..... Yup. Except Trump is so dumb and senile that he would have watched Fox News in bed and let some lackey aide make the necessary arrangements with the Fed and then fake Trump's signature.
PS- Let's start with a general proposition that all politicians are generally insular and often tone-deaf about much of what is happening in the world. So with that I would advise Harris to immediately announce she would fire Mayorkas and take a different path with the border. She confronts her weakness on the border issue. She also shows that her Presidency won't be a continuation of the Biden Presidency. She deals with two problems for her with one stroke.

Now tell me how that's not a good idea. She (and you as well) shouldn't drown yourself over your idealism. It's not our job to save both of you.
Because it's a bullshit idea. No matter what Harris does, the GOP will complain that the Dems created the border problem and couldn't resolve it and that firing Mayorkas was just a face-saver.

The GOP will never admit that the border was as bad under Dubya and he never "did anything" either - just waited for conditions in Latin America to calm down.

It's not "idealism". I suggested resiling from the UNCHR more than a year ago. We both know that the GOP will keep the border issue alive to scare the shit out of those nice people in Idaho and Indiana. The border issue is a gold mine to the GOP. They'll stoke it up out of control all they can and Fox News will play it up and milk it for Trump campaign donations.
 
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I believe initially there were enough votes in the Senate, but I don't there was no guarantee that the House Republicans would rally around it. It was a Senate compromise.

Given how the general electorate is responding to the Democrat's handling of the border in election polling, I think it's safe to say they are not impressed with their efforts.

What's great is the border is now far less chaotic. Nothing like an election to trigger a dose of political reality.
Can we get details of this, Earp??
 
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As far as Abortion, it is a serious Republican liability but it has different electoral features. While I support abortion with limits, it has never been a big issue for me personally because I wear condoms and can drive my partner to a state with legalized abortion if an accident happened.....
Don't count on that remaining so, Earp.
 

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I believe initially there were enough votes in the Senate, but I don't there was no guarantee that the House Republicans would rally around it. It was a Senate compromise.

Given how the general electorate is responding to the Democrat's handling of the border in election polling, I think it's safe to say they are not impressed with their efforts.

What's great is the border is now far less chaotic. Nothing like an election to trigger a dose of political reality.

PS- I don't think the head of the border patrol gave the deal an enthusiastic thumbs up. It was more ambivalent. Do you know if the union voted on their support? We are finding that unions are not always lockstep with their union heads on political matters.
Earp, what about Trump's senility as a campaign issue?

I've raised it in this thread and you fear to discuss it. Which is odd. I mean..... you love to talk about Biden's senility so much. You just go on and on and on about it.....
 

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Earp, what about Trump's senility as a campaign issue?

I've raised it in this thread and you fear to discuss it. Which is odd. I mean..... you love to talk about Biden's senility so much. You just go on and on and on about it.....
I don't respond over and over because you are redundant.

I have basically admitted no one is the same at 78 as they were when they were 70. However even though Trump is not as sharp as he was in 2016, I don't think he is materially different in his demeanor and approach. He takes big swings and says outrageous things to make his point like he always did.

In comparison if Trump wins, he would be the same age as Biden was when Biden was sworn in to be President. I don't think anyone would disagree that Biden was able to run a limited appearance campaign in 2020.

I don't know where you were on the Biden age thing before July, but we have several members who are disingenuous about the age issue. I have repeatedly said we need a constitutional limit on the age of the President (and Vice President). However, these are the rules we currently live with.
 
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I don't respond over and over because you are redundant.
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That's never stopped you going on about Biden, Earp.
I have basically admitted no one is the same at 78 as they were when they were 70. However even though Trump is not as sharp as he was in 2016, I don't think he is materially different in his demeanor and approach. He takes big swings and says outrageous things to make his point like he always did.
He never used to jig around and stare and gabble like this.

I don't know where you were on the Biden age thing before July, but we have several members who are disingenuous about the age issue. I have repeatedly said we need a constitutional limit on the age of the President (and Vice President). However, these are the rules we currently live with.
Before July, Biden was carefully protected and he wasn't exposed until the debate disaster.
 
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