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Why is it that higher energy-efficiency of EVs translates
to higher cost than ICE vehicles in spite of subsidies through
generous rebates at the expense of taxpayers?


HungSowel said:
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In summary, EVs are generally more energy-efficient than ICE vehicles. The higher efficiency of electric motors compared to combustion engines, combined with the potential for using renewable energy sources, makes EVs a more efficient choice in terms of energy consumption and environmental impact. However, the overall efficiency of EVs can be affected by the sources of electricity used for charging and the energy losses in the power generation and distribution process.
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oil&gas said:
Why is it that higher energy-efficiency of EVs translates
to higher cost than ICE vehicles in spite of subsidies through
generous rebates at the expense of taxpayers?
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BYD has EVs starting at 10k USD, they sell them all around the world except for the US and Canada, I believe Mexico does not have a tariff or has a very low tariff. EVs are only expensive in Canada and the US.
 
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HungSowel said:
BYD has EVs starting at 10k USD, they sell them all around the world except for the US and Canada, I believe Mexico does not have a tariff or has a very low tariff. EVs are only expensive in Canada and the US.
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Interestingly, local automobile manufacturers seemed to have decided EVs
to be less profitable to make even with government subsidies than ICE cars.
I gather China and Mexico can also produce ICE cars cheaper than their EVs.

globalnews.ca

Ontario insists EV subsidies not wasted as Ford Motor Co. plans gas trucks for Oakville | Globalnews.ca

The Ford Motors plant in Oakville, Ont., was meant to retool for electric vehicles and batteries. Now, the auto giant plans to make 100,000 gas-powered trucks there first.
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driving.ca

Ford drops EV plans, adds Super Duty truck production to Ontario plant

The Oakville, Ont. plant was supposed to start making three-row EVs in 2027, but will start truck production in 2026
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roddermac said:
A hurricane is your argument. What makes him a fossil fuel clown. You know this how. Yet you believe what an autistic 16 year old with anger issues tells you.
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You can't tell the difference between science and lobbying.
What hope is there for you?

The US has experienced more major hurricanes in the last 8 years than in the last 50.
Try getting house insurance in Florida now.
 
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Frankfooter said:
You gotta love it when the rich old guy says its about facts then pushes his personal opinions on everyone.

Science looks like this, in case you're interested.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844683490849141105
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You have an excuse every time the climate change myth gets debunked. I've given two examples of actual educated adults who study it and yet the only comeback you have is twitter and a autistic teenage girl.
 
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