How the Democrats are anti Democracy.

NotADcotor

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The Democrats are using the courts to try to keep the Greens off state ballots. And in one case gave wrong wrong instructions for ballot access then used that as an excuse to sue to keep them off.

So go back and try again.
If you are comparing that [assuming it is true] to the stuff I said, you have no sense of proportion

Also I noticed you didn't deny anything I said, one must assume you agree with it.

A bit like Paul Bernardo saying, hey sure, but rappers use the word Bitch so why am I in prison.
 
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Butler1000

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Then they voted for Biden instead of Trump in 2020!!

But Stein is playing a dangerous game in the manner in which she is sucking up to alt right. The Party of the man who believes that Climate Change is a "Hoax"!!

A sizeable number of Republicans are switching to Harris. But wait for another month as this could get interesting!!
And now they either won't vote or vote for Trump instead on Harris. No one can accurately predict the outcome of this election. But should Trump win and the post voting numbers come out I think you will see how she lost. And that I won't be off the mark in the swing states.
 

Butler1000

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If you are comparing that [assuming it is true] to the stuff I said, you have no sense of proportion

Also I noticed you didn't deny anything I said, one must assume you agree with it.

A bit like Paul Bernardo saying, hey sure, but rappers use the word Bitch so why am I in prison.
Except the Democrats are acting like Republicans using the courts and doing bad things. Stein said it best when she said the Demicrats are only offering you the choice of the lesser of two evils whereas we are offering the greater good.

Whether you agree with her or not, who's messaging bodes for a better world, and who is walking just a bit slower than the GOP to the same result? Have you heard her on overseas wars, immigration, Healthcare reform? All right wing positions.
 
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bver_hunter

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And now they either won't vote or vote for Trump instead on Harris. No one can accurately predict the outcome of this election. But should Trump win and the post voting numbers come out I think you will see how she lost. And that I won't be off the mark in the swing states.
Very optimistic of you. What if Kamala Harris wins, then would that outcome be due to not that many Progressives / Greens deserting her?
 
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mandrill

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The Democrats are using the courts to try to keep the Greens off state ballots. And in one case gave wrong wrong instructions for ballot access then used that as an excuse to sue to keep them off.

So go back and try again.
The Greens are going to get less than 1% of the vote and will hurt the Dems in tight races.

Go Dems! 🐴🇺🇲🐴🇺🇲🐴

Btw what did Jill Stein have for dinner when she dined out with "friend of democracy" Vlad Putin??.... You're such an expert, you can tell us.

And was that the time Mike Flynn hung out with them??
 

mandrill

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Except the Democrats are acting like Republicans using the courts and doing bad things. Stein said it best when she said the Demicrats are only offering you the choice of the lesser of two evils whereas we are offering the greater good.

Whether you agree with her or not, who's messaging bodes for a better world, and who is walking just a bit slower than the GOP to the same result? Have you heard her on overseas wars, immigration, Healthcare reform? All right wing positions.
Buddy, Stein literally hangs the fuck out with Vlad Putin!

Have a little shame and self-awareness, pal!
 
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The Dems are huge cheaters just like they were in 2020. Here's a 2024 example of Dems cheating in election voting!!


The RNC just sued Fulton County Elections Director Nadine Williams for refusing to hire Republican poll workers for the 2024 election. So far, she has only hired 15 Republicans out of 804 total election workers Specifically, Williams only hired 9 out of 45 qualified Republicans to work during early voting. And only hired 6 out of 62 Republicans to work on Election Day. "However, rather than issue an appointment, Defendant Williams [Election Department Superintendent] has put these qualified poll workers "on reserve." Defendant Williams has ostensibly placed the RNC, GRP and Fulton GOP's list of qualified workers at the back of the line for Election Day work." The RNC wants the court to issue a Writ of Mandamus compelling Williams to appoint all the qualified Republicans or provide a real reason for not hiring them. SPOILER: The real reason is that they want to cheat in Fulton County and don't want any Republicans witnessing it. I suspect the few Republicans that have been hired will be assigned to pointless tasks where they can't witness anything incriminating. The election is four weeks away. The courts need to step in immediately.
 
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Butler1000

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Very optimistic of you. What if Kamala Harris wins, then would that outcome be due to not that many Progressives / Greens deserting her?
Have to see what the exit polling says in the weeks after. The numbers will come out. But right now the polling doesn't look good, nor with the Muslim disporia.

Right now though I think the hurricane(s) response may end up as the October Surprise this year. The news that FEMA spend their budget on Illegal immigrants is not going over well.
 

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She discusses this. I think the Nebraska Senate race is proving that there is a hunger for alt candidates.
In the current system, these third-party candidates are basically being used to siphon votes away from the two parties. RFK and Stein (and Kanye in 2020) received support from right-wing donors because they thought they could get some Democrat votes and hurt Biden/Harris. When RFK started to become popular with conservatives, Trump begged him to drop out of the race. It is interesting that he asked to be taken off the ballot in competitive states, but will remain on them in others...

Stein has no chance of winning anything, but could hurt Harris in some close races. That is the only reason she is being given any type of media coverage.
 

Butler1000

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In the current system, these third-party candidates are basically being used to siphon votes away from the two parties. RFK and Stein (and Kanye in 2020) received support from right-wing donors because they thought they could get some Democrat votes and hurt Biden/Harris. When RFK started to become popular with conservatives, Trump begged him to drop out of the race. It is interesting that he asked to be taken off the ballot in competitive states, but will remain on them in others...

Stein has no chance of winning anything, but could hurt Harris in some close races. That is the only reason she is being given any type of media coverage.
So you are saying no third party or Independent candidates should be allowed to run?

Because imo if a voter chooses to vote third party they do so knowing their candidates can't win but want to protest vote. And that they won't vote for either party otherwise.
 
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FEMA denied that. Total BS.

That said, FEMA has limitation. Another hurricane is coming over Florida in the next few days.

Insurance companies are pulling out of Florida just like I thankfully pulled out in time of many girls in my 20`s 😷

The oceans are 2 degree warmer. This has a huge impact on the number of hurricanes hitting the mainland. My uncle who lives near Naples was asked 4k for insurance 2 years ago (up from 750$). His house is now uninsured as he refuses to return to work (at 82) to pay that...
 

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Mitchy is not well, he only posted once.

Trump said he will not accept defeat, he's not just the King of Kings he also wants to be American Caesar. He should brush up on his history. Without his suckers and losers, Julius Caesar would not have crossed the Rubicon.

 

silentkisser

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So you are saying no third party or Independent candidates should be allowed to run?

Because imo if a voter chooses to vote third party they do so knowing their candidates can't win but want to protest vote. And that they won't vote for either party otherwise.
Actually, I would love to see the US have more than one party. But they don't. They have fringe folks running for president with no shot of winning. There is a difference.

Now, I could totally see the GOP split into two parties, one the far right MAGAs, and the other a more centerist GOP...We'll see if that ever happens.
 

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Have to see what the exit polling says in the weeks after. The numbers will come out. But right now the polling doesn't look good, nor with the Muslim disporia.

Right now though I think the hurricane(s) response may end up as the October Surprise this year. The news that FEMA spend their budget on Illegal immigrants is not going over well.
Do you see how you are buying the far right misinformation about the FEMA aid that Trump and his cronies are spreading?

False claims about FEMA disaster funds and migrants pushed by Trump
There is no evidence that disaster relief funds were used on immigrants in the U.S. illegally. FEMA disaster money comes from dedicated funds that cannot be used for other purposes.


Also, when the tapes are played back as to how Trump has berated the Muslims as well as his unhinged support for Netanyahu's further escalation of the war and killings in the West Bank and now Lebanon, we know where in reality they will place their votes in the Ballet box!!
 
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Butler1000

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FEMA denied that. Total BS.

That said, FEMA has limitation. Another hurricane is coming over Florida in the next few days.

Insurance companies are pulling out of Florida just like I thankfully pulled out in time of many girls in my 20`s 😷

The oceans are 2 degree warmer. This has a huge impact on the number of hurricanes hitting the mainland. My uncle who lives near Naples was asked 4k for insurance 2 years ago (up from 750$). His house is now uninsured as he refuses to return to work (at 82) to pay that...
I have friends working in North Carolina. One does helicopter maintenance on rescue/fire fighting choppers.

He has stated he has never seen such a lack of government support as he has seen this time. It's so many private entities leading the charge post storm on the ground. Entire towns are wiped out. Thus is direct eye witness who I am finally texting with.

Don't think people are not noticing.
 

Butler1000

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Do you see how you are buying the far right misinformation about the FEMA aid that Trump and his cronies are spreading?

False claims about FEMA disaster funds and migrants pushed by Trump
There is no evidence that disaster relief funds were used on immigrants in the U.S. illegally. FEMA disaster money comes from dedicated funds that cannot be used for other purposes.


Also, when the tapes are played back as to how Trump has berated the Muslims as well as his unhinged support for Netanyahu's further escalation of the war and killings in the West Bank and now Lebanon, we know where in reality they will place their votes in the Ballet box!!
See above post.
 

Butler1000

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Actually, I would love to see the US have more than one party. But they don't. They have fringe folks running for president with no shot of winning. There is a difference.

Now, I could totally see the GOP split into two parties, one the far right MAGAs, and the other a more centerist GOP...We'll see if that ever happens.

Independent up by 5 points. Perhaps it's the Dems policy/record and not fringe candidates that hurt them.
 
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bver_hunter

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See above post.
Funny enough when I have a relative who is involved with the actual Aid relief to different states. He mentioned that This is by far the biggest relief arriving in North Carolina, and thanks to The
Federal Government.

What about during the California Wildfires when Trump was blaming The State Government and refusing aid until he realized that the regions hit most were those that were Republican?

But once again it was Trump who did this to FEMA:


Biden on the other hand has still pledged more aid to the regions hit hardest by Helena!!

 
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