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Skoob

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I never claimed it made it more affordable for me. I have 4 cars, a business and a home so I am surely taking a hit but I don't cry because I can afford it. I don't live in my basement as you do.

Question, a family of 3 who live in a condo downtown, does not own a car or own an EV are they ahead or behind after they receive their rebate??
Just because you can afford something doesn't mean it makes sense.
To answer your question, no, they are behind.
Do you know why? (I'll assume you don't otherwise you wouldn't have asked that question.)

How does their food get delivered to wherever they buy it?
What about their furniture, appliances, electronics and clothes?
How about the restaurants they visit?
What type of energy does their building use to provide heating/cooling?
What about the trades that provide maintenance for the building...how do they get there and where do they purchase their equipment and materials?


Think about everything that relies on some kind of fossil fuel to either get manufactured, packaged, and delivered.
Then try and figure out how the cost is ultimately downloaded to the consumer.

In Ontario, a family of 3 as you described, is eligible to get a maximum of $980/year in rebates.
You think paying more for everything I described for a whole year and getting $980 back means the family is making more than they were before?

If you disagree...show your math...as well as the math that explains how every dollar collected in carbon tax impacts the climate. ie what's the proven formula?
I'll wait...
 

squeezer

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Just because you can afford something doesn't mean it makes sense.
To answer your question, no, they are behind.
Do you know why? (I'll assume you don't otherwise you wouldn't have asked that question.)

How does their food get delivered to wherever they buy it?
What about their furniture, appliances, electronics and clothes?
How about the restaurants they visit?
What type of energy does their building use to provide heating/cooling?
What about the trades that provide maintenance for the building...how do they get there and where do they purchase their equipment and materials?


Think about everything that relies on some kind of fossil fuel to either get manufactured, packaged, and delivered.
Then try and figure out how the cost is ultimately downloaded to the consumer.

In Ontario, a family of 3 as you described, is eligible to get a maximum of $980/year in rebates.
You think paying more for everything I described for a whole year and getting $980 back means the family is making more than they were before?

If you disagree...show your math...as well as the math that explains how every dollar collected in carbon tax impacts the climate. ie what's the proven formula?
I'll wait...
Have a read, absorb and then get back to me

 

Skoob

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17.57 cents to be exact. Unlike you, I am aware of the facts!

Tell me, what is Pee Pee's environmental policy?
So you've been getting ripped off for years paying into some ponzi scheme that you believe actually saves the planet and now you're asking me what Poilievre's policy is?
How about you direct your rage at the current person who has been ripping you off for the past decade rather than someone who isn't even in power?

It's like a person that has been getting physically abused by their partner for years being worried about what a new relationship would be like.

Axe the tax FFS!!!!
 

bver_hunter

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Here we go, right on queue. Blame Harper.

10 years of Trudeau standing in front of a microphone saying he'll fix housing, only to make it twice as worse, but it's all Harper's fault. :ROFLMAO:

Maybe all we need is more of Trudeau's lucky construction hat. :ROFLMAO:
There you go again. At least the Trudeau Govt. is working with the Provinces and Municipalities to address the issue.
Something that Harpo did nothing, especially as Pee Pee claimed that he was The Housing Minister:
But what do you have to say about this:


Housing is an Issue not only in Canada but The USA, and the other G7 Nations!!
 
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bver_hunter

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Poilievre doesn't need to play anyone on housing or anything else for that matter. Millennials can see for themselves how unaffordable it has become over the past 10 years.
Millennials can also see how they have been sold lies by parties that said anything they had to for winning elections. Even the BC NDP are saying they will scrap the consumer carbon tax now that they may lose the upcoming election.

So rather than being afraid of what Poilievre is saying, how about you look at the parties that lied to you over the past decade.
So you agree that Pee Pee is lying how he will magically fix everything just to win the elections.
Once again scrapping the Carbon Tax is is a hollow promise. Especially, as he has nothing in place to replace it.
How is he going to bring down the carbon emissions? Of course he has no plans!!
 

DesRicardo

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There you go again. At least the Trudeau Govt. is working with the Provinces and Municipalities to address the issue.
Something that Harpo did nothing, especially as Pee Pee claimed that he was The Housing Minister:
But what do you have to say about this:


Housing is an Issue not only in Canada but The USA, and the other G7 Nations!!
1. Poilievre is evil.
2. It's Harper's fault.
3. We are the best country in the G7.
4. It's Covid-19's Fault.
5. The war in Ukraine.

I've saved everybody some time and categorized all the excuses you will use.

Now please push your party for an early election. thank you.
 

bver_hunter

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1. Poilievre is evil.
2. It's Harper's fault.
3. We are the best country in the G7.
4. It's Covid-19's Fault.
5. The war in Ukraine.

I've saved everybody some time and categorized all the excuses you will use.

Now please push your party for an early election. thank you.
Once again the Govt. has a mandate for 4 years. Pee Pee's ass will be spanked when he tables the "No confidence" Motion.
All he will do is moan and groan after that!!
 
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squeezer

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So you've been getting ripped off for years paying into some ponzi scheme that you believe actually saves the planet and now you're asking me what Poilievre's policy is?
How about you direct your rage at the current person who has been ripping you off for the past decade rather than someone who isn't even in power?

It's like a person that has been getting physically abused by their partner for years being worried about what a new relationship would be like.

Axe the tax FFS!!!!
Can't answer the question eh? YOu know why? It's it perhaps because Pee Pee didn't share it with you?
 

bver_hunter

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Can't answer the question eh? YOu know why? It's it perhaps because Pee Pee didn't share it with you?
He is only good at sidestepping the question. But he always expects answers to his questions even if you have totally addressed it!!
 

JuanGoodman

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You better ask the greedy Grocery Chain franchises to start addressing that issue when they have record profits and bonuses!!
you are missing the point

you think that by charging us more taxes the government can affect the global climate

that's a big goal

let's see if they can actually fix anything?

start with the hungry

if they can feed the hungry in Canada, not even the world, just Canada

I will gladly pay more taxes
 
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