Sugar Baby Conversion

[IM469]

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During this relationship I still met other SBs. I was actually engaged, had a mistress, seeing other SBs and hobbying. I’m a degenerate.

Last October I converted a 19 year old for 2 months. Only provided a gift the first time. Last November I converted an 18 year old for 2 months, gift once. I’ve recently converted a 20/21 to a no gift situation.

I guess my question is, have others done this? If so, tell your story and let’s make a playbook.

We get a lot of members who live their sexual fantasies by posting extraordinary sexual escapades to generate male admiration from Terb members since the reality is that they can't carry on a two minute conversation with a hot girl. So in 2 1/2 years you have 30 SDB's, a mistress while engaged to another woman. I'm not commenting on moral ethics - it is the logistics I find puzzling.

So if I swallow hard - my comment is not that you are a degenerate - you are a juggler on a tightrope. I can sit in the peanut gallery and look at the spectacle but there is no way I would want to be in your position.

I don't want to bruise your ego with respect to the last two teen conversions - but those are dates.

 

[Urbanexplorer]

We get a lot of members who live their sexual fantasies by posting extraordinary sexual escapades to generate male admiration from Terb members since the reality is that they can't carry on a two minute conversation with a hot girl. So in 2 1/2 years you have 30 SDB's, a mistress while engaged to another woman. I'm not commenting on moral ethics - it is the logistics I find puzzling.

So if I swallow hard - my comment is not that you are a degenerate - you are a juggler on a tightrope. I can sit in the peanut gallery and look at the spectacle but there is no way I would want to be in your position.

I don't want to bruise your ego with respect to the last two teen conversions - but those are dates.

I appreciate that. I am not looking for validation or praise, truly. It’s true but I’m not really going to defend it. Yes, logistics were very challenging.

Again, I am posting to ask the question if anyone else has converted an SB into just a baby without the sugar. I’m trying to find someone else who’s done it to talk about it.

 

[Urbanexplorer]

We get a lot of members who live their sexual fantasies by posting extraordinary sexual escapades to generate male admiration from Terb members since the reality is that they can't carry on a two minute conversation with a hot girl. So in 2 1/2 years you have 30 SDB's, a mistress while engaged to another woman. I'm not commenting on moral ethics - it is the logistics I find puzzling.

So if I swallow hard - my comment is not that you are a degenerate - you are a juggler on a tightrope. I can sit in the peanut gallery and look at the spectacle but there is no way I would want to be in your position.

I don't want to bruise your ego with respect to the last two teen conversions - but those are dates.

Also, been a member for 11 years and contribute. I’m not here to live a incel fantasy dude.

 

[Patron]

The OP said he wanted stories.

Here are two. I was late (airplane delay) once to a session and she was nice about it but said there would be a 5-10 minute interruption during our time. She did some domme work and she had a texting session with another guy. She apparently put him to bed every night and was paid to do so. I was rather amused by it. Bet he didn’t think she was in the middle of another session while she was texting him.

I saw one lady for years at various places, usually at her little house on a hill in LA. We were close enough that she had me at her place. Once she told me to come to a new address in LA since she had to evacuate due to a potential mudslide. She told me to bring a pizza from a specified restaurant. Turns out a quasi-boyfriend who was traveling let her use his place. It took me forever to figure out the pizza. Then I got it. She didn’t want neighbors telling the quasi-boyfriend that guys came and went. The neighbors would see a guy delivering a pizza. They wouldn’t pay any attention to whether he left right away. Girls are smart.

My point is that technology, particularly texting, has allowed good looking women to manage 10 to 100 to 1,000 guys like a stock portfolio. Some of those stocks pay dividends, with those dividend rates differ from stock to stock, and some of the stocks being held more for long-term appreciation rather than dividends. Those girls the original poster mentioned have hundreds of contacts in her cell phone and she constantly manages them by texting.

As far as a lady maintaining contact once the dividend ceases, she is just deciding not to sell the stock at a loss and see if it ever recovers in price and/or starts paying a dividend again. If not, she finally sells it or just accepts that it becomes worthless.

Women in escorting and Sugaring know the value of the valuable patch of real estate between their legs. They even keep an eye out for something really long-term once that value declines. All women do these activities to an extent, sex workers just happen to do it really well. But even a supposed trad girlfriend or wife has “male friends” in the background as replacements for their current One and Only.

My criticism of Sugaring is that I think it is too easy for a naive guy to get really played and taken to the cleaners to an extent that is less likely in an escort relationship where he buys 1, 2 or 3 hours. And let‘s not kid ourselves. An escort will do the same things a Sugar Baby will do if you buy a long enough time frame. It costs more to do a long time frame with an escort in the short run. In the long run, I am not so sure.

 

[shack]

Also, been a member for 11 years and contribute. I’m not here to live a incel fantasy dude.

You've done it soooo many times why in the world would you need somebody else to talk to about it?

 

[Urbanexplorer]

The OP said he wanted stories.

Here are two. I was late (airplane delay) once to a session and she was nice about it but said there would be a 5-10 minute interruption during our time. She did some domme work and she had a texting session with another guy. She apparently put him to bed every night and was paid to do so. I was rather amused by it. Bet he didn’t think she was in the middle of another session while she was texting him.

I saw one lady for years at various places, usually at her little house on a hill in LA. We were close enough that she had me at her place. Once she told me to come to a new address in LA since she had to evacuate due to a potential mudslide. She told me to bring a pizza from a specified restaurant. Turns out a quasi-boyfriend who was traveling let her use his place. It took me forever to figure out the pizza. Then I got it. She didn’t want neighbors telling the quasi-boyfriend that guys came and went. The neighbors would see a guy delivering a pizza. They wouldn’t pay any attention to whether he left right away. Girls are smart.

My point is that technology, particularly texting, has allowed good looking women to manage 10 to 100 to 1,000 guys like a stock portfolio. Some of those stocks pay dividends, with those dividend rates differ from stock to stock, and some of the stocks being held more for long-term appreciation rather than dividends. Those girls the original poster mentioned have hundreds of contacts in her cell phone and she constantly manages them by texting.

As far as a lady maintaining contact once the dividend ceases, she is just deciding not to sell the stock at a loss and see if it ever recovers in price and/or starts paying a dividend again. If not, she finally sells it or just accepts that it becomes worthless.

Women in escorting and Sugaring know the value of the valuable patch of real estate between their legs. They even keep an eye out for something really long-term once that value declines. All women do these activities to an extent, sex workers just happen to do it really well. But even a supposed trad girlfriend or wife has “male friends” in the background as replacements for their current One and Only.

My criticism of Sugaring is that I think it is too easy for a naive guy to get really played and taken to the cleaners to an extent that is less likely in an escort relationship where he buys 1, 2 or 3 hours. And let‘s not kid ourselves. An escort will do the same things a Sugar Baby will do if you buy a long enough time frame. It costs more to do a long time frame with an escort in the short run. In the long run, I am not so sure.

Thanks. That’s interesting about them not selling hoping it’ll come back up. They did sell eventually.

One other thing about it was once I stopped paying for it, I started to get jealous. I’d login to the site and see they had been online - I’d get jealous on the inside which is completely irrational. That clearly would never happen with an SP.

 

[Patron]

With the rising power of young women, and the almost magical ability of the smartphone, we should make a movie that combines elements of GlenGary Glenross, Orgazmo (the South Park guy’s weakest movie) and Sex and the City.

I would be entertaining, and it would piss off JD Vance.

Four young women move in together in a nice LA apartment. They have classes and civilian jobs that don’t cover a really good life in LA.

The fundamental premise of the show is how they manage their extensive Contacts List on their phones.

The hottest one is a Mormon planning her wedding in Utah. It is a good ways off. She figures it will be in a nice venue in the St. George area, but secretly dreams of having it in the actual Mormon Tabernacle in Salt Lake City. Her fiancé, by the way, is on Mission in Africa and was awarded a medal for helping a village hard hit by Ebola.

One of the ladies is an independent escort with an OnlyFans page who just started Sugaring. She knew one of the other girls before they all moved in together and that other girl has just an OnlyFans page.

Basically they all start Sugaring, but they also have ”civilian” boyfriends, and guys from ‘back home”, and of course the heroic Mormon Mission Man in Africa.

The Mormon girl of course starts out slow and shoots for more platonic encounters while Sugaring. But she soon realizes that she can make so much more by going all the way, perhaps even including the anal sex that she can do with more ease than her roommates, that she could actually make enough to have her wedding in the Mormon Tabernacle. She still has a soft spot for the guys who paid her for platonic relationships and those who aren’t paying her any longer, and she contacts them occasionally and does some uncompensated sex, much to the chagrin of her roommates who keep saying that guy is a deadbeat, get rid of him, like in GlenGary GlenRoss.

They have girl discussions and girl adventures like Sex in the City and even Golden Girls, but with greater focus on how much to get, directly or indirectly, from that valuable patch of real estate between their legs and how connected it is to their smart phones. Discussions and dilemmas about what guys they like best, and how to keep the guys from discovering their bountiful and secret lives.

There are many plot twists, but in the final episode the marriage does occur at the Mormon Tabernacle with the guy just having returned from even another mission in Africa to marry the love of his life, who he thinks is a virgin.

 

[BigDaddy00]

The SD world has gone down the toilet post Covid. Its a huge time and money suck. The girls are less attractive and the asks are more ridiculous.
Maybe its a result of men becoming total incels and simps with the creation of onlyfans or maybe its just inflation and the rise of social media.

Either way, I used to have a much better time with it in the past and am convinced that the good times are over.

We are now in the times that 7/10 girls expect $1000 for a platonic date, just to leave their house and have you buy them dinner. 4/10 girls expect $500 for the same.

 

[shack]

I just met a 19 year old cutie. Last date was 5 hours, $325 and anything but platonic. And I have another one at $350.

 

[shack]

I just met a 19 year old cutie. Last date was 5 hours, $325 and anything but platonic. And I have another one at $350.

Update. The $350 girl just called me asking for a date. I told he that I met another girl who costs me $100 less and is close enough that I don't need to use Uber.

She dropped her price $100.

Still gotta pay her Uber, but she's accepting $250 for herself. Stick to your budget guys, be patient, charming, down to earth and funny. Treat them with respect. Don't go for the glamour girls or self-described princesses or spoiled girls who say "I know what I'm worth" or "Don't waste my time". Be selective.

 

[dchoye]

I went to seeking this week after an hiatus for a year and can’t believe how many are asking for 600+ per meet. The highest quote was 2K. Must be some golden pussy. Finding a gem is getting harder

 

[shack]

I went to seeking this week after an hiatus for a year and can’t believe how many are asking for 600+ per meet. The highest quote was 2K. Must be some golden pussy. Finding a gem is getting harder

Well, diamonds are the hardest substance on earth.

 

[andy234]

My experience in seeking was honestly not worth it. The hot ones asking for insane amounts. A lot of fake scammers asking for deposits. And the ones that are not my cup of tea aren’t really worth it tbh. Not doubting you found someone for that low but idk if they were that good looking to be for 350…

 

[dchoye]

My experience in seeking was honestly not worth it. The hot ones asking for insane amounts. A lot of fake scammers asking for deposits. And the ones that are not my cup of tea aren’t really worth it tbh. Not doubting you found someone for that low but idk if they were that good looking to be for 350…

Yea there are going to be fat ugly ones that you can get really low. My dick can’t get hard and stay hard for those ones. And the ones that do look attractive, all photoshopped or younger/skinner version of themselves.

 

[helloz]

I just met a 19 year old cutie. Last date was 5 hours, $325 and anything but platonic. And I have another one at $350.

which site do you use?

 

[shack]

which site do you use?

SDM.

 

[RobI]

Seems more like gambling to me.

I wonder if the odds are better or worse here?

 

[RobI]

I went to seeking this week after an hiatus for a year and can’t believe how many are asking for 600+ per meet. The highest quote was 2K. Must be some golden pussy. Finding a gem is getting harder

Trust me if a women needs $2K to find you attractive enough to have sex with you, the only who's going to be smiling after this is her... and whoever she buys cocaine off (not coke-shaming, just saying that's a lot of money)

On a serious note, this is usually their open offer; it's usually more to weed out the window-shoppers; you can always tell them it's outside your budget, but you are willing to talk. The problem with Seeking is you have to be careful about any kind of money talk, SDM is a lot better in this aspect as they seem to be ok with talking dollars openly.

 

[RobI]

SDM.

Let me know if you'd like to trade any leads? I have a few from that site I've seen this summer.

 

[shack]

Let me know if you'd like to trade any leads? I have a few from that site I've seen this summer.

I never had any problems recommending and reviewing pros.

I'm no longer interested in seeing pros. I'm interested in seeing SBs in the truer sense of the word. Young, civvy girls going through life with school, moving out, creating a career etc., etc. Needing a few extra bucks, but sex for money is not their future or future lifestyle. It's a stopgap measure.

The pros want to get to be known and are more than willing to meet many men who are strangers. The true SBs are coming from a different place and have different motivation.

That's the long way of saying:

I am getting asked more and more for contacts but I will not be trading info on SBs (unless they ask me to). Sorry.