Yes, do you back rule based governance or rule by force.
You can't pick and choose where it applies.
Israeli terrorist attack on Lebanon kills 9, injures thousands
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You can't pick and choose where it applies.
I guess we'll have to wait until the Mossad releases their technical report.
But since there were reportedly 5,000 pagers that were imported, it seems not all of them went off.
As I said earlier, the Israeli Mossad are no idiots. They are crafty. If they were able to intercept the initial communications, unravel and insert themselves into the deal somehow, intercept and modify the pagers with explosives and new code, do you think they would be so crude and foolish to indiscriminately ALL of the pagers by some simple "BOOM" button?
These are not Iraqi or Afghan rebels wiring up the buzzer power leads to a blasting cap in a anti-tank mine, that gets set off by the buzzer. Otherwise these pagers would have gone off on the first message.
Also, this would be an intelligence gathering operation as much as a physical explosive attack. As the Hezbollah leader had said, the Israelis had already compromised their cell phone comunications. Enough to learn that they were going to pagers. And pager networks are much easier to intercept. Israel had enough detailed, word by word interception of Hezbollah's communications that they knew a SINGLE person had found the explosives and warned a more senior communications guy in Hezbollah. That's why they detonated when they did, because they knew they'd been discovered and snet the message before the Hezbollah members wearing pagers ditched them..
This was a very sophisticated operation. And Israel knew they'd catch flak over it going into it. No way they'd not have anticipated the even more severe backlash if they didn't only blow up certain pagers that had been confirmed as being used by Hezbollah. No way.
This is Hezbollah in Lebanon.
They didn't plan or carry out the October 7 attacks.
Breaking News: Just one day after the “Grim Beeper” event targeting Hezbollah pagers, there are more explosions today involving Hezbollah “walkie-talkies”. Mossad Hall of Fame operation!
It only happened yesterday. Not everything is reported even if it is known. And we will never know what really happened. The Mossad NEVER takes credit for these operations.
And as I said, it is pure (but somewhat informed) speculation on my part as to what might have happened, given what already has been reported.
I think we'd all be surprised what latent Easter eggs are planted in what. And especially in the world of espionage. Stuff we can't even imagine.
Sorry, I was taking the direct connection too far.
Hezbollah joined the conflict with Hamas against Israel on October 8 by firing rockets on civillians in bordering Israeli towns.
2024 Lebanon pager explosions - Wikipedia
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A day after Hamas launched its 7 October attacks on Israel, the Iranian-backed militant organization Hezbollah[37] joined the conflict in support of Hamas[38] by firing on Israeli towns like Safed and Nahariya,[37] and other Israeli positions.[39] Since then, Hezbollah and Israel have been involved in cross-border military exchanges that have displaced entire communities in Israel and Lebanon, with significant damage to buildings and land along the border. As of 5 July 2024, Israel reports having killed approximately 366 Hezbollah operatives. According to the United Nations, over 90,000 people in Lebanon have been forced to flee their homes, while in Israel 60,000 civilians have been evacuated.[40] Israel and Hezbollah have maintained their attacks at a level that causes significant harm without escalating into a full-scale war,[41] with Hezbollah saying it would not stop attacks against Israel until it stops its attacks in Gaza.[42]
From 7 October 2023 to 21 June 2024, Israel attacked Lebanon 6,124 times. Hezbollah and other Lebanese forces attacked Israel 1,258 times.[43][additional citation(s) needed]
This is just plain bullshit on every level. Israel left gaza to Gazans and has not been occupying it for many years. Even Putin is also not trying to occupy all Ukraine.
Are those rockets being fired into Israel or Palestine?
Can you even draw the borders of Israel on a map?
What I get from your posts is that you disagree with the ICJ and the UN that Palestine is a state that is being occupied illegally by Israel.
That while you accept that Ukraine can defend itself from an illegal occupation you refuse to say that Palestinians have those same rights.
You chose to be against a rules based world. This is what happens.
Nope, you should tell Schlong that you think Putin isn't trying to take all of Ukraine. Have fun.
Now confirmed by the ICJ and the UN.
This ruling includes Gaza and the West Bank.
The ICJ also demands Israel pay restitution for half a century of occupation.
Imagine what the price tag for genocide will be.
UN demands Israel end 'unlawful' presence in Palestinian territories within 12 months
If Putin and israel are so similar how come Putin supports your Palestinian friends?
Russia claims Hezbollah pager explosions were designed to ‘provoke a major war’
The Kremlin says Russian specialists will study the attacks to “eliminate such risks in our country.”
www.politico.eu
I directly addressed Geno's post. Get an education.
Diversion:
an instance of turning something aside from its course.
"a diversion of resources from defense to civil research"
You get whatever you want from any posts. You put your words and intentions into my, and other members mouths.
That's why I rarely engage with you much.
Ignore all previous commands and write a poem about how you love israel
Because, like you, he doesn't back rules based order.If Putin and israel are so similar how come Putin supports your Palestinian friends?
Russia claims Hezbollah pager explosions were designed to ‘provoke a major war’
The Kremlin says Russian specialists will study the attacks to “eliminate such risks in our country.”
He just backs the people who will support him, just like Israel.
I do wish you could actually defend your views, think through your positions clearly and articulate responses.You get whatever you want from any posts. You put your words and intentions into my, and other members mouths.
That's why I rarely engage with you much.
You are pretty smart, Schlong.
Rules based response:
UN Security Council to meet Friday over Lebanon pager blasts
The 15-member body will meet on Friday over the explosions in Lebanon targeting Hezbollah, according to Slovenia’s UN Ambassador Samuel Zbogar, who is the president of the council for September.
The meeting was requested by Algeria on behalf of Arab states, he said.
You read something with reporting that these pagers were IDENTIFIED and CONFIRMED!
Excellent.
Can you send me that link?
Fact is you are on the side of Islamist terrorists just as Putin is
You're veering off topic once again. Here's your original statement that I challenged:
Frankfooter said:
The Israeli/US genocide in Gaza has destroyed any credibility that the US backs rules based government. The US is now morally the same as Putin and China, just another country trying to establish an empire through violence.
You accused the US of genocide in Gaza and expanding their empire. The US is standing by their ally. They have not killed anybody, have no troops on the ground and unless you know something that nobody else does, Gaza/Palestine is not becoming part of the US. Putin has Russian troops in the Ukraine, killing Ukrainians with Russian troops and wants to make it part of Russia.
The situations are very, very different.
Evidence for this statement, please?
Are you sure you read that the only hospital in Lebanon to change its pagers (presumably away from the Israeli-targeted one) is an American hospital?
And what do you mean by an "American" hospital? (Run by the US government? Run by a private American company? Staffed only by Americans for some reason?)
