Israeli terrorist attack on Lebanon kills 9, injures thousands

[Butler1000]

Looks like Israel committed a mass terror attack only because Hezbollah was about to discover them. An intelligence failure for POS Nation
Now they are just an exporter of mass terrorism. Now they have to shoot their wad before everything is discovered.

Israel launched Hezbollah pager attack over fears of plan being exposed: reports

Jerusalem was reportedly concerned that the terror group had picked up on the plan, intended as the opening move of a full-scale war.

nationalpost.com

This is about the largest dose of copium I've seen in a long time. By far the most effective espionage operation in recent memory.

Even if that were true they allowed the mole to operate for years and utterly fool them into paying for the explosive delivery system. If this is your idea of success no wonder you think Israel is losing the war.

 

[Butler1000]

I don't know. Why don't you tell me.

This order of 5,000 pagers was a single order, placed by and delivered to Hamas. Not a retail purchase that the hospital would have bought the rigged units.

Seeing as the stories I've read have not mentioned that this US hospital had recently replaced their pagers, I'd think that either they were replacing /upgrading their old system, as the previous documents you posted said.

Or are you saying that Hamas went to all the cloak and dagger work to figure out how to order so many, undetected, pagers, 5,000 and sold some surplus to a US hospital? And that the US hospital just decided to re-equip their paging system with a good deal on pagers? 'Psssst... Habibi... you wanna buy some pagers for your hospital? I have a brother-in-law who can get you a good deal!"

Then, Israel or the US found out about booby trapped pagers going into the hospital, and somehow got the hospital adminstration to recall those new pagers and replace them again?

Think about it. Think it through.

More copium overdoses to try to get over the utter disaster this is for the Islamic Apologist Coalition here on TERB.

 

[Goodfellow]

This ensures less finger pointing by Hezbollah

I laughed out loud with this brilliant comment!
As for those Hezbollah terrorists whose pagers were still in their pants, bye bye gonads! So fewer progeny to take up their evil cause. We know that the Mossad never take credit, but goddamn, this operation goes straight into the Mossad Hall of Fame!

 

[Klatuu]

This is about the largest dose of copium I've seen in a long time. By far the most effective espionage operation in recent memory.

Even if that were true they allowed the mole to operate for years and utterly fool them into paying for the explosive delivery system. If this is your idea of success no wonder you think Israel is losing the war.

Hallucinations

 

[Butler1000]

Hallucinations

Ok, if you prefer that term to your attempts to cope with this Hezbollah intelligence disaster I'm good with that!

 

[Goodfellow]

'The Grim Beeper'

This comment caused me to laugh out loud! Brilliant! I’d love to know what message was displayed prior to the “KABOOM!” Hope it was “Shalom motherfucker”

 

[shack]

So you're saying that if Russia uses the same techniques here and in the US against those who back Ukraine you'd think that was acceptable?
If China blew up the phones on all those who were for tariffs you'd also think this is fine?

Once again, you divert once challenged. You were spouting off about how the US is becoming as evil as Russia nd China. Now it's Ukraine and tariffs. LOL

Are you comparing killing people because of tariffs to killing Hezbollah, a recognized terrorist organization who are actively killing people?

You are desperate.

 

[Klatuu]

Ok, if you prefer that term to your attempts to cope with this Hezbollah intelligence disaster I'm good with that!

As am I with your adolescent fantasy explanations. Listening to you fawn over this mass terror attack by POS Nation is like a Taylor Swift fan fawning over her latest album.

 

[Klatuu]

Once again, you divert once challenged. You were spouting off about how the US is becoming as evil as Russia nd China. Now it's Ukraine and tariffs. LOL

Are you comparing killing people because of tariffs to killing Hezbollah, a recognized terrorist organization who are actively killing people?

You are desperate.

Diversion

 

[Klatuu]

To the fantasists

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1836412918893510857

 

[SchlongConery]

This ensures less finger pointing by Hezbollah I suppose. I guess the idea of winning hearts and minds is at this point a train that has already left the station.

They really gotta hand it to Mossad or were they just shooting from the hip?

 

[Valcazar]

Pretty clever of the Israelis to do this to specifically target Hezbollah fighters.

Did they?
That's far from clear.
It targeted primarily Hezbollah from what we know, but there isn't really any evidence it was JUST them or that it was JUST fighters.

They rigged a bunch of pagers and set them off remotely.
There doesn't appear to have been much aiming at all other than Hezbollah uses pagers, not cell phones, and they seem to have known this shipment was purchased by Hezbollah.
Israel didn't control the pager distribution, so other than "this will mostly be people associated with Hezbollah in some form" there doesn't appear to be much aiming unless there is new information I am unaware of.

Buy, install a small, personal sized explosive charge, reprogram the pagers so that when some secret Hezbollah word, message or code is received… pop! And that Hezbollah fighter gets taken out!

I haven't seen any evidence this was done by "a secret Hezbollah word".
Most analysts seem to indicate it would have been done by a signal sent out via the bombmaker.
This would also explain it being wide-spread and almost simultaneous.
Again, it was just "blow all the pagers up" not "blow up the pagers we can identify as being used by Hezbollah fighters".

 

[Valcazar]

PURE speculation but as I understand it, Hezbollah’s leader told the fighters to ditch their cellphones as the Israelis could trace you. And to start using pagers. (The only known company that has been able to hack Apple’s iOS phone OS is an Israeli company). The Israelis are very good hackers.

So Israeli intelligence ( Mossad?) came up with a plan to somehow bid or otherwise act as a wholesaler or black market source for (what I understand) Hezbollah’s order. Would be easy to identify and intercept an order for a few thousand pagers going to Lebanon all of a sudden.

Then once delivered to the Israeli middlemen, pagers get disassembled, a few grams or an ounce of C4 gets packed into the case, EPROM or whatever Operating System gets hacked to set off the explosive charge when a particular message or word is rec’d by those pagers identified as belonging to Hezbollah members

Would also be easy to monitor those pagers for a while, intercept and analyze messages to clearly identify Hezbollah operatives/ fighters etc. Then send the magic word. Or even better, bait the Hezbollah leadership into sending a blast to all members that included some violent or special word they use. Poetic justice.

I don’t think a pager battery has enough potential energy or can even be catalyzed quickly enough to cause any meaningful explosion.

The part that doesn't seem to have evidence is the fourth paragraph.

"Would also be easy to monitor those pagers for a while, intercept and analyze messages to clearly identify Hezbollah operatives/ fighters etc. Then send the magic word. Or even better, bait the Hezbollah leadership into sending a blast to all members that included some violent or special word they use. Poetic justice."

That may be what happened, but I haven't seen any reporting to support it.

 

[Valcazar]

You are speaking as if the entire batch of pagers would go off indiscriminately killing or maiming actual innocent by blowing up their pager.

There is NO way that if Israel could manage to get in on the deal early enough to think it through etc, then buy several thousand WITHOUT telling the manufacturer, disaasemble, form explosives to fit, reprogram the operating system to be able to trigger remotely, and then NOT only target confirmed Hezbollah members.

The Israelis are not stupid enough to go to these lengths for a clean, targeted hit to be that clumsy or ignorant of the public relations nightmare that would cause.

I don't understand why you think that.
The Israeli government and military has shown repeatedly that it is willing to take such a PR hit, and no reporting has surfaced indicating this wasn't indiscriminate in application.

 

[Frankfooter]

I don't know. Why don't you tell me.

This order of 5,000 pagers was a single order, placed by and delivered to Hamas. Not a retail purchase that the hospital would have bought the rigged units.

Seeing as the stories I've read have not mentioned that this US hospital had recently replaced their pagers, I'd think that either they were replacing /upgrading their old system, as the previous documents you posted said.

Or are you saying that Hamas went to all the cloak and dagger work to figure out how to order so many, undetected, pagers, 5,000 and sold some surplus to a US hospital? And that the US hospital just decided to re-equip their paging system with a good deal on pagers? 'Psssst... Habibi... you wanna buy some pagers for your hospital? I have a brother-in-law who can get you a good deal!"

Then, Israel or the US found out about booby trapped pagers going into the hospital, and somehow got the hospital adminstration to recall those new pagers and replace them again?

Think about it. Think it through.

I have thought it through, Schlong, have you?

Place this in context. This is an escalation of the Israeli-Arab war that has been ongoing for decades, with moments of peace. Israel set this all up with a plan to blow up phones and walkie talkies just before they once again invaded Lebanon. Israel is still occupying part of Lebanon and Syria but this attack is to escalate the Israeli-Arab war to draw in US support for a larger war in the face of mounting international outrage at the ongoing US/Israeli genocide in Gaza.

A few weeks ago Israel tried to draw Iran in with an assassination inside Iran, which Iran has yet to respond to. Last week Yemen, who is blocking 90% of traffic to Israel through the Red Sea, fired a hypersonic missile that landed in Tel Aviv, targeting military installations there. Today the UN issued a resolution demanding Israel end the occupation of Palestine within one year.

Hezbollah has a militant arm but is also a democratically elected party in the Lebanese government. Your sole reason you back Israel is you claim you are against terrorism yet haven't thought it through enough to understand if what you are supporting is terrorism itself. Not with Israeli settler attacks, IOF targeting civilians and just yesterday you finally became aware that Israel targets refugee camps regularly. All of those fit the definition of terrorism, which leaves you backing what you are against. Turning civilian devices into weapons is a war crime. Blowing up civilian devices in civilian areas without concern for civilian victims is either a war crime of disproportionate response or indiscriminate use of weapons like Hamas rockets and Israeli tank and artillery in Gaza.

This is an escalation of a war that has no end game. Unless you think Israel turning Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey and Iran into failed states like Syria and Iraq is your goal. Otherwise, Israel cannot win this long term. They are already a pariah state ignoring the ICC, ICJ and UN in defence of apartheid and genocide. Maintaining apartheid through war is not a winning strategy.

You either stand with rules based order or you stand for rule by force, like Putin and Netanyahu.



‘Civilian objects’ should not be weaponised: UN chief

Civilian objects should not be weaponised, UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres says in the wake of a deadly wave of explosions across Lebanon targeting devices used by Hezbollah.
“I think it’s very important that there is an effective control of civilian objects, not to weaponise civilian objects, that should be a rule that … governments should be able to implement,” Guterres said at a briefing at UN headquarters in New York.
“As important as the event in itself is the indication that this event confirms that there is a serious risk of a dramatic escalation in Lebanon and everything must be done to avoid the escalation,” Guterres said.
“What has happened is particularly serious not only because of the number of victims that it caused but because of the indications that exist that this was triggered, I would say, in advance of a normal way to trigger these things because there was a risk of this being discovered.”

 

[Leimonis]

I don't understand why you think that.
The Israeli government and military has shown repeatedly that it is willing to take such a PR hit, and no reporting has surfaced indicating this wasn't indiscriminate in application.

Yes! Heartless Israelis targeted children of hesbollahs freedom fighters as those children are known to often play video games on their fathers pagers!

 

[Frankfooter]

Once again, you divert once challenged. You were spouting off about how the US is becoming as evil as Russia nd China. Now it's Ukraine and tariffs. LOL

Are you comparing killing people because of tariffs to killing Hezbollah, a recognized terrorist organization who are actively killing people?

You are desperate.

Explain why you think the US backing the illegal of occupation and colonization of Palestine is any different than Putin invading and colonizing Ukraine.

 

[Leimonis]

Explain why you think the US backing the illegal of occupation and colonization of Palestine is any different than Putin invading and colonizing Ukraine.

Ukraine is not looking to occupy all Russia from the river to the sea and/or cleanse Russians
Palestinians want to occupy the entire israel and cleanse all Jews

 

[SchlongConery]

Diversion

That's we he said. You guys keep diverting from Israel/Hamas to Ukraine/Russia and how bad the US is/was etc.

 

[Frankfooter]

Ukraine is not looking to occupy all Russia from the river to the sea and/or cleanse Russians
Palestinians want to occupy the entire israel and cleanse all Israelis

Putin is trying to occupy all of Ukraine, from the river to the sea.
Israel is occupying all of Palestine, from the river to the sea.

The UN has ruled both of those illegal and demanded both to end.
How are they different?