Right-wing terrorism vs. Islamic terrorism - which one is the greater global threat??

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And again, instead of quoting from the lancet, you spam random tweets.
Keep up, basketcase.
You need to keep track of all the evidence you'll have to deal with at the ICC and ICJ.

For instance, this is a new report from the UN on Israel's campaign to starve Palestinian civilians to death.
That's terrorism, by the way, targeting civilians for political purposes.

This is nazi level evil, intentionally starving 1 million children.
How can you live with yourself, basketcase?

https://documents.un.org/doc/undoc/gen/n24/212/30/pdf/n2421230.pdf



Report of the Special Rapporteur on the right to food, Michael Fakhri
Starvation and the right to food, with an emphasis on the Palestinian people’s food sovereignty





Words cannot capture certain aspects of the horror of Palestinian life during the current starvation campaign by Israel. Nor do words alone adequately provide a vision for a better future for the Palestinian people and the world. The Special Rapporteur has therefore prepared a graphic report, illustrated by Omar Khouri, a renowned artist. The illustrations are essential to the present report and can be found on the Special Rapporteur’s United Nations web page.9



D. Starvation as a tactic of genocide, extermination or torture

27. Starvation is perpetrated at all scales, ranging from the starving of individuals and small groups to the starving of entire communities and peoples. Starvation is made possible through social relations of dependency and control. Since starvation is political, international, structural and long-lasting it is always intentional through acts or omissions. Therefore, every instance of mass starvation is a form of genocide or extermination, and every instance of starving an individual is torture.

28. Starvation is common as a form of torture especially in prisons, where there is a high degree of control over individuals and their food system.23 Similarly, the European Court of Human Rights has recognized the vulnerability of refugees and asylum-seekers and their dependence on the authorities of the host State, thereby finding that starving them amounts to ill-treatment.24

29. In the context of genocide, starvation always causes serious bodily and mental harm to members of a group; starvation is a sure way of deliberately inflicting conditions of life on the group, calculated to bring about physical destruction in whole or in part; and sometimes starvation can be a measure intended to prevent births within the group.25 When starvation is a crime against humanity it is understood as a deprivation of food, medicine and other items essential to life that is an intentional inflection of conditions of life calculated to bring about the destruction of part of a population.26


Starvation as a tactic in Gaza

36. Israel made its intentions to starve everyone in Gaza explicit, implemented its plans and predictably created a famine throughout Gaza. Tracking the geography of Israel’s starvation tactics alongside Israeli officials’ statements confirms its intent. Israel opened with a total siege that weakened all Palestinians in Gaza. Then, Israel used starvation to induce forcible transfer, harm and death against people in the north, pushing people into the south, only to starve, bombard and kill people in newly created refugee camps in the south.

 

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Keep up, basketcase.
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I am. You made a claim that according to the Lancet, Israel killed 186,000 yet you can't show us the quote where they said so. Meanwhile Hamas, who you obviously adore, says a bit over 40,000, an undeclared number combatants, but now you don't believe them.
 

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Yes, Shazi, it will eventually happen.
And how many Gazans will you find acceptable to die in the interim? So far, according to your numbers, you are are cool with 340,000 dying while waiting for a UNSC or UNGA resolution condemning Israel of genocide. You don't really care, though, do you?

What other countries have continued after being found guilty of genocide, Shazi?
A moot and irrelevant question since Israel hasn't been found guilty of genocide. Neither the UNGA nor the UNSC has passed any resolutions. ICJ and ICC rulings mean shit.
You think zionism will end like Serbia, nazis or more like Rwanda?
Please remind us of your quotes and prior condemnations prior to Oct.7 of the situation in Rwanda. You are a No Jews, No news moralist.

You think you can do a dirty harry to this crowd?
I don't consider you and your Little Buddy a crowd. You are a fringe element.................at best.

But Harry Callahan clearly knew how to deal with your type. The type that understands nothing but hate and violence. Do you think that Harry was wrong to kill that guy?
 

Frankfooter

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And how many Gazans will you find acceptable to die in the interim? So far, according to your numbers, you are are cool with 340,000 dying while waiting for a UNSC or UNGA resolution condemning Israel of genocide. You don't really care, though, do you?
Easy answer, Shazi.
None.

No Palestinians should have had to die under Israel's illegal occupation, illegal blockade, illegal apartheid and genocide.
None.


A moot and irrelevant question since Israel hasn't been found guilty of genocide. Neither the UNGA nor the UNSC has passed any resolutions. ICJ and ICC rulings mean shit.
Please remind us of your quotes and prior condemnations prior to Oct.7 of the situation in Rwanda. You are a No Jews, No news moralist.
Yet.
The charges are in process, Shazi, and you know it.
Enjoy your last moments in the sun before you realize you are as popular as a nazi.


I don't consider you and your Little Buddy a crowd. You are a fringe element.................at best.

But Harry Callahan clearly knew how to deal with your type. The type that understands nothing but hate and violence. Do you think that Harry was wrong to kill that guy?
45% of Canadians think Israel is committing genocide, Shazi.
That's half of Canada that thinks you are a monster for promoting genocide, a crime that can land you 3 years in jail.
 

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That's because there is nothing said by the Lancet to quote.
Still arguing that just because Israel dropped 3x Hiroshima's worth of explosives on Gaza doesn't mean they were the ones that did the genocide?
You have to be pretty senile to think that makes sense.
 

Frankfooter

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I am. You made a claim that according to the Lancet, Israel killed 186,000 yet you can't show us the quote where they said so. Meanwhile Hamas, who you obviously adore, says a bit over 40,000, an undeclared number combatants, but now you don't believe them.
You are relentlessly idiotic.
Who do you think dropped 36kg of explosives for every man, woman and child in Gaza? Switzerland?

Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death9 to the 37 396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186 000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza. Using the 2022 Gaza Strip population estimate of 2 375 259, this would translate to 7·9% of the total population in the Gaza Strip. A report from Feb 7, 2024, at the time when the direct death toll was 28 000, estimated that without a ceasefire there would be between 58 260 deaths (without an epidemic or escalation) and 85 750 deaths (if both occurred) by Aug 6, 2024.10

The interim measures set out by the International Court of Justice in January, 2024, require Israel to “take effective measures to prevent the destruction and ensure the preservation of evidence related to allegations of acts within the scope of … the Genocide Convention”.11 T

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International Court of Justice
Application of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide in the Gaza Strip
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240126-ord-01-00-en.pdf
Date: 2024
Date accessed: May 3, 2024
 

shack

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Easy answer, Shazi.
None.
But you keep calling for a ceasefire instead of a Hamas surrender. Based on your math, it means that 340,000 Gazans have needlessly died this year because of your strategy. So clearly you are cool with all of those deaths. The more Gazans that die, the more that you can demonize Israel. I's quite transparent. You fool no one except the one celled type of organism.

No Palestinians should have had to die
None.
I agree. So why did Hamas trigger this uptick in violence on Oct.7. You're a numbers guy. How many Gazans were dying by day in the 6 monhs prior to Oct.7 and how many subsequent to that date? According to the ridiculous numbers you are trying to pass off, the after Oct.7 rate is about 1,000 per day.

The charges are in process, Shazi, and you know it.
Meaningless, Genostradamus. Speculation is nothing more than a hope.

45% of Canadians think Israel is committing genocide, Shazi.
How many American politicians think so?

That's half of Canada that thinks you are a monster for promoting genocide, a crime that can land you 3 years in jail.
That doesn't affect my life. In the meantime, 98% of TERB think/know that you are a raving anti-Semite. That is why your waste of bandwidth is not taken seriously by anyone. You've become a mockery of yourself.[/QUOTE]
 

Frankfooter

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But you keep calling for a ceasefire instead of a Hamas surrender. Based on your math, it means that 340,000 Gazans have needlessly died this year because of your strategy. So clearly you are cool with all of those deaths. The more Gazans that die, the more that you can demonize Israel. I's quite transparent. You fool no one except the one celled type of organism.
A ceasefire means the killing stops by both sides, Shazi.
A surrender means Palestinians stop resisting while Netanyahu 'finishes the job' as he's repeatedly declared and goes and kills everyone he thinks might be Hamas or Palestinian.

The genocide is the zionist strategy, its been your dream for decades.
You fool nobody.

I agree. So why did Hamas trigger this uptick in violence on Oct.7. You're a numbers guy. How many Gazans were dying by day in the 6 monhs prior to Oct.7 and how many subsequent to that date? According to the ridiculous numbers you are trying to pass off, the after Oct.7 rate is about 1,000 per day.
Before Oct 7? There were 233 settler terrorist attacks which culminated in an attack on the Al Aqsa Mosque. 2023 had already been declared as the year that Israel had killed the most children before Oct 7. The same attack on Al Aqsa resulted in a similar response in 2021. The only difference this time is that Hamas got outside of the concentration camp walls for the first time in 2 decades and Israel used 33,000 explosives fired by 28 helicopters on their own people to try to stop Hamas from taking prisoners.


Meaningless, Genostradamus. Speculation is nothing more than a hope.

How many American politicians think so?

That doesn't affect my life. In the meantime, 98% of TERB think/know that you are a raving anti-Semite. That is why your waste of bandwidth is not taken seriously by anyone. You've become a mockery of yourself.
In almost 1 year of genocide all Israel has accomplished is to become globally hated.
There is no coming back from this for zionism.

No decent human can support a movement based on racist land theft, apartheid and genocide.

 

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All fair points except for the last part.

Liberals is not a derogatory name.
Neither are Marxists or socialists, because this is who they are.
They even call themselves that.

You could argue "Commies" is a slur, but they deserve it because communism has never worked in the past, and will never work in the future.
Capitalism is the best system we have. So fuck the Commies!! :D
I'll agree: fuck commies. However, it is plain to see that capitalism does not work as expected. It might still be the best, but it works best for the common people with a bit of socialism thrown in. Just look at Canada or the nordic countries. Highly educated, high life expectancy and high levels of happiness. Are they perfect? Nope, but having strong government programs to help people does make a difference.
 

shack

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A ceasefire means the killing stops by both sides, Shazi.
We've been waiting for that. Since the beginning of the year you tell us 340,000 have died. Clearly you want more because you want to wait longer for a ceasefire.How many martyrs do you have left to sacrifice.
A surrender means Palestinians stop resisting while Netanyahu 'finishes the job' as he's repeatedly declared and goes and kills everyone he thinks might be Hamas or Palestinian.
Finishing the job means eliminating Hamas.

The genocide is the Zionist strategy, its been your dream for decades.
You fool nobody.
Incestuous genocide is Hamas strategy. You've been cheering it on for a year and you still want more.


apartheid and genocide.
Hasn't happened according to UNGA or UNSC.
 

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We've been waiting for that. Since the beginning of the year you tell us 340,000 have died. Clearly you want more because you want to wait longer for a ceasefire.How many martyrs do you have left to sacrifice.
Finishing the job means eliminating Hamas.

Incestuous genocide is Hamas strategy. You've been cheering it on for a year and you still want more.



Hasn't happened according to UNGA or UNSC.
Moldy cult script
 
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