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Right-wing terrorism vs. Islamic terrorism - which one is the greater global threat??

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basketcase said:
Did you not actually read what the article said? Nowhere does it even hint Hamas offered a ceasefire.

The reality was that Hamas rejected several ceasefires including the one the UNSC demanded.

Each of these stories are about different Hamas rejections:
www.aljazeera.com

Hamas official rejects talk of new negotiations with Israel

Israeli media have reported that Gaza ceasefire talks will resume on Tuesday in Cairo.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
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US says Hamas is to blame for ceasefire delay – but is it Hamas or Israel?

Biden administration insists Israel is on board, but the latter’s evasiveness highlights the contradictions of any deal.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
www.euronews.com

Israel said it will pursue its war objectives in light of the decision

Hamas said it had handed its response to mediators in Egypt and Qatar. It said any agreement must end Israel's war in Gaza.
www.euronews.com www.euronews.com
www.nytimes.com

Hamas Rejects Cease-Fire Proposal, Dashing Biden’s Hopes of Near-Term Deal

A day after President Biden suggested that there could be a deal as soon as Monday, a Hamas official indicated that the group was not satisfied with what had been floated in truce and hostage talks.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
nationalpost.com

Offer of two-month ceasefire for release of all hostages rejected by Hamas, source says

An Egyptian official told AP that Hamas leaders also rebuffed a demand to leave Gaza.
nationalpost.com nationalpost.com
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You missed this one in the first place where Israel stated that it was committed to destroying Hamas totally, hence rejecting the first ceasefire proposal:

www.aljazeera.com

‘The goal is to destroy Gaza’: Why Israel rejects a ceasefire with Hamas

Israel has rejected a ceasefire and launched an operation in Rafah, raising fears that the war in Gaza could drag on.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com

With all the very huge demonstrations in Israel, who are accuse Netanyahu of only caring for his own political career, once gain he has no interest in any ceasefire deals:

globalnews.ca

Netanyahu rejects growing Israeli pressure to reach Gaza ceasefire deal - National | Globalnews.ca

U.S. President Joe Biden added to the pressure by saying Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu isn't doing enough to reach a deal for a ceasefire and hostage release.
globalnews.ca globalnews.ca

He is only trying to appease his far right coalition parties!!
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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because the racist Repugs are Islamophobic... but they are still both right wingers. You think the Taliban are lefties?
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Do you think Stalin and Mao Tse Tung were right-wingers??
They were far Left communists who killed millions.

Mao's policies were responsible for a vast number of deaths, with estimates ranging from 40 to 80 million victims due to starvation, persecution, prison labour, and mass executions.
Stalin when in power was responsible for the deaths of at least 7 million people, or about 4.2% of USSRs total population.

I know you think left-wingers are sweet little angels and right-wingers are pure evil, but that is just not true
 
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basketcase said:
The Hiroshima bomb killed 166,000. 3 would mean 500,000 killed. Thanks for proving Israel's intent is NOT to wipe out civilians.
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The Lancet letter says its likely Israel has killed at least 186,000.
That puts it at more than Hiroshima.

Thank you for confirming that the scale of the Gaza genocide is similar to Hiroshima.
 
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Frankfooter said:
The Lancet letter says its likely Israel has killed at least 186,000.
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Bullshit. Find the quote where the Lancet says that. Even the study itself does not say that. Find the quote.

Repeat that lie as often as you like. It will not sneak through.
 
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Phil C. McNasty said:
Disagree with that.
Majority of muslims vote Democrat and radical muslims hate George Bush for starting the Iraq and afghan wars, and they hate Trump also
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Sure, but fundamentalist islamic terrorists are VERY conservative, and some in the GOP have embraced some of their rhetoric. Like not allowing women to vote, the idea of tradwives, hating queer and trans people. There is a LOT of overlap. I kind of find it amusing that the right doesn't see the parallels..
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Sure, but fundamentalist islamic terrorists are VERY conservative, and some in the GOP have embraced some of their rhetoric. Like not allowing women to vote, the idea of tradwives, hating queer and trans people. There is a LOT of overlap. I kind of find it amusing that the right doesn't see the parallels..
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I find it amusing that you guys on the Left are not aware you hate on right-wingers as well, on a daily basis.
Terb political forum is a good example of this.

So whats the difference??
 
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Frankfooter said:
Never again means you don't vote for genocide.
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The guy you want to punish the Dems is the one calling for Gaza to be finished. The guy/gal you hate is the one pushing a ceasefire.

Makes it clear you're the one celebrating violence.
 
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Frankfooter said:
The Lancet letter says...
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Maybe you should read it because they don't say "Israel killed".

Hamas says just over 40,000 of which a significant part are combatants but this is just another case where you ignore Palestinians when you don't like what they say.
 
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bver_hunter said:
You missed this one in the first place where Israel stated that it was committed to destroying Hamas totally, hence rejecting the first ceasefire proposal:
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You seem to not understand that when what Netanyahu says for his base contradicts with the instruction he gives to the negotiators, one has more significance than others.

And you posted an article as 'proof' that Hamas offered ceasefires but the article said nothing like it. As with your response to my comment about the West Bank, it seems you read too quickly and didn't accurately understand what was being said.

I agree with your comments on Netanyahu trying to simply hold on to power but as a democracy, there is far more likelihood that enough of the coalition will abandon him and force an election Netanyahu will lose than it is for the underground Gaza anti-war movement to undermine Hamas.



p.s. Do you think Israel's raid on the Hamas in the West Bank has anything to do with Hamas starting suicide bombings again?
 
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Phil C. McNasty said:
Do you think Stalin and Mao Tse Tung were right-wingers??
They were far Left communists who killed millions.
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Do you think Stalin and Mao are examples of Islamist leaders or are you simply trying to dig deep into the past to distract from the prevalence of right-wing terrorism?
 
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basketcase said:
Maybe you should read it because they don't say "Israel killed".

Hamas says just over 40,000 of which a significant part are combatants but this is just another case where you ignore Palestinians when you don't like what they say.
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They reference the ICJ genocide charges, basketcase.
Who do you think dropped 3 Hiroshima's worth of explosives on Gaza, Fiji?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829896298914513297
 
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basketcase said:
I find it less amusing that some on the left are willing to excuse fundamentalist terrorism from Islamists.
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Every accusation is a confession.
You do that daily here, excusing and justifying Israeli settler terrorists. Terrorism from religious fundamentalists.

www.hrw.org

West Bank: Israel Responsible for Rising Settler Violence

The Israeli military either took part in or did not protect Palestinians from violent settler attacks in the West Bank that have displaced people from 20 communities and have entirely uprooted at least 7 communities since October 7, 2023.
www.hrw.org www.hrw.org
 
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