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Frankfooter

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Why would I take the fact that you repeatedly justified attacking Jewish civilians and supporting hamas attacks to the mods? Even if they banned you for your promotion of hatred and continually faking people's posts, you'd just create a new handle like you've done a couple times before. It's much better that everyone here can identify exactly what kind of 'human' you are.
Because you lie.
You know you'd be exposed as the liar here.

I back a ceasefire, both sides being held to the law.
I back the end of the occupation, apartheid and genocide.
I back both sides being taken to the ICC and ICJ over all allegations.

You back death.

45% of Canadians say Israel is committing genocide.
 
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basketcase

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Because you lie.
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Hmm
No, basketcase, I've asked you how Palestinians, who have a right to self defence against the illegal occupation of Palestine, can tell the difference between civilian settlers and militant settlers. You've stated its impossible, which by your metric on Palestinians in Gaza means you think Palestinians in the West Bank are justified to attack all settlers.

Personally, I'd prefer that the US supported international law and withheld all arms and aid to Israel, allow the ICJ and ICC full support and ended the genocide that is now spreading to the West Bank, Palestine.

Do you think this settler is a civilian or part of what B'tselem calls 'state policy'?
Except that B'teselem says that Israel arms and uses militant settler terrorism as state policy. Which means by state policy settlers are now terrorists and not civilians. That means you are defending terrorism against the indigenous population.





Again, B'tselem says settler violence is state policy. You need to stop backing terrorism and start backing the law.


 

Frankfooter

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Yes, basketcase.
You've been arguing here for almost a year that Israel can kill women and children in Gaza if they live in the same concentration camp as Hamas or that if Israel thinks those women and children might be militants. You claim to back HRW but say that Palestinians have no right to self defence, admit settlers commit terrorism but argue that Palestinians can't target settlers in case they are civilians and not militants. Its an obviously race based double standard. You argue that only Israelis are allowed to target and kill civilians if they declare they are terrorists but that Palestinians are never allowed to defend themselves against actual terrorism.

You claim to back HRW but argue that Palestinians are terrorists if they use self defence.
West Bank: Israel Responsible for Rising Settler Violence
Entire Palestinian Communities Displaced Months After Attacks

The Israeli military either took part in or did not protect Palestinians from violent settler attacks in the West Bank that have displaced people from 20 communities and have entirely uprooted at least 7 communities since October 7, 2023, Human Rights Watch said today.

Israeli settlers have assaulted, tortured, and committed sexual violence against Palestinians, stolen their belongings and livestock, threatened to kill them if they did not leave permanently, and destroyed their homes and schools under the cover of the ongoing hostilities in Gaza. Many Palestinians, including entire communities, have fled their homes and lands. The military has not assured displaced residents that it will protect their security or allow them to return, forcing them to live in precarious conditions elsewhere.

“Settlers and soldiers have displaced entire Palestinian communities, destroying every home, with the apparent backing of higher Israeli authorities,” said Bill Van Esveld, associate children’s rights director at Human Rights Watch. “While the attention of the world is focused on Gaza, abuses in the West Bank, fueled by decades of impunity and complacency among Israel’s allies, are soaring.”
 

basketcase

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Yes, basketcase.
You've been arguing here for almost a year that Israel can kill women and children in Gaza if they live in the same concentration camp as Hamas...
Bullshit. I dare you to find one quote from me saying it's okay for Israel to target civilians.

Meanwhile, you not only stated you support attacks on Jewish civilians in the face of HRW and Amnesty, you try and deny it by repeating again you think any Jew is a legitimate target.

I think all of your calls for people to get banned for promoting genocide might result in yet another handle to join groggy and flubadub.
 

Frankfooter

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Bullshit. I dare you to find one quote from me saying it's okay for Israel to target civilians.

Meanwhile, you not only stated you support attacks on Jewish civilians in the face of HRW and Amnesty, you try and deny it by repeating again you think any Jew is a legitimate target.

I think all of your calls for people to get banned for promoting genocide might result in yet another handle to join groggy and flubadub.
Israel is confirmed to have killed at least 16,000 children, which you continue to support and cheer on.
You promote genocide here every time you post in these threads.

HRW and settlers?
 

basketcase

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Israel is confirmed to have killed at least 16,000 children, which you continue to support and cheer on.
You promote genocide here every time you post in these threads.

HRW and settlers?
Bullshit. I dare you to find one quote from me saying it's okay for Israel to target civilians.

Meanwhile you keep backing the death of civilian Jews in the West Bank.
 

Frankfooter

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Bullshit. I dare you to find one quote from me saying it's okay for Israel to target civilians.
We have 300 days of genocide where you have not once said its wrong that Israel kills civilians, not when they kill women, not when they kill children and not when they rape and torture people to death.

You won't say it out loud but your every post is to try to argue that Palestinians all deserve to die because they dare live on land you think is Israel.

Every time I post reports and evidence of Israel targeting, raping and killing civilians you defend them and try to blame Hamas for Israel dropping 36kg of explosives for every person in Gaza.

Every time I post evidence that Israel is killing civilians you smirk and then pivot to Hamas.
You won't even dare say that Israel is wrong to do this to children.
 

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Bullshit. I dare you to find one quote from me saying it's okay for Israel to target civilians.
I'd like to see evidence that IDF kills more civilians in Gaza than any other modern army in an urban conflict ever has killed. This genocide whining financed by Qatar and benefiting Iran and Russia is so baseless yet it quite successfully poisons the minds of western youth.
 

Frankfooter

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I'd like to see evidence that IDF kills more civilians in Gaza than any other modern army in an urban conflict ever has killed. This genocide whining financed by Qatar and benefiting Iran and Russia is so baseless yet it quite successfully poisons the minds of western youth.
Acting surprised that people died when you drop 3x Hiroshima's worth of explosives on an area the size of the isle of Montreal?
Only way to count the dead is to stop the genocide.
 
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basketcase

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Acting surprised that people died when you drop 3x Hiroshima's worth of explosives on an area the size of the isle of Montreal?
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Right. The comparatively low death toll pretty much refutes your claim that Israel's goal is genocide.
 

basketcase

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We have 300 days of genocide where you have not once said its wrong that Israel kills civilians, ...
Except where I repeatedly have. I just actually read international law on armed conflict where it says civilian deaths are both understandable and legal as long as the military value of the strike is significant enough. Neither you nor I have accurate targeting data or accurate death counts so the reasonable view is to wait for investigations from people with that data before making baseless claims.

And if we want to talk about condemnations, you not only have gone out of your way to justify Hamas' actions on the 7th and after and even denying the research about Hamas atrocities reported by the UN and HRW who you claim to endorse. You have also gone out of your way to support Hamas continuing holding their hostages despite the ICC and ICJ demanding immediate and unconditional release and ignoring that it is now hamas policy to execute them rather than turn them over.

Sadly you refuse to listen to your own groups when they don't condemn Israel and are happy to embrace claims from random tweets. You're just as much of a sucker for disinformation campaigns as mitchell, spamming us with tweets and not caring about reality.
 

Frankfooter

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Except where I repeatedly have. I just actually read international law on armed conflict where it says civilian deaths are both understandable and legal as long as the military value of the strike is significant enough. Neither you nor I have accurate targeting data or accurate death counts so the reasonable view is to wait for investigations from people with that data before making baseless claims.

And if we want to talk about condemnations, you not only have gone out of your way to justify Hamas' actions on the 7th and after and even denying the research about Hamas atrocities reported by the UN and HRW who you claim to endorse. You have also gone out of your way to support Hamas continuing holding their hostages despite the ICC and ICJ demanding immediate and unconditional release and ignoring that it is now hamas policy to execute them rather than turn them over.

Sadly you refuse to listen to your own groups when they don't condemn Israel and are happy to embrace claims from random tweets. You're just as much of a sucker for disinformation campaigns as mitchell, spamming us with tweets and not caring about reality.
The UN, ICC, ICJ and others say Israel is committing war crimes, including apartheid, an illegal occupation and genocide.
If you are arguing that you back international law then you must support all of those investigations and findings.

Period.

Meanwhile, the Muslim American PAC just announced they are supporting the only Jewish candidate, Jill Stein.
Who looks racist now?



 

basketcase

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...

Meanwhile, the Muslim American PAC just announced they are supporting the only Jewish candidate, Jill Stein.
Who looks racist now?
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Trump's people are the racists and you're helping him get elected.



p.s. Interesting how easily you endorse a religiously focused PAC pushing an agenda about foreign countries when they're not Jews.
 

shack

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Only way to count the dead is to stop the genocide.
Once again, you are admitting that all of those numbers you spew are all total fabrications and nothing more than propaganda.

You've been making a habit of contradicting yourself a lot lately.
 

Frankfooter

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But you keep rejecting the UN, ICC, and ICJ so why would you care, other in your pathetic efforts to demonize the jewish presence in the Middle East.
Every accusation is confession.
You are the one rejecting the UN, ICC and ICJ.

Otherwise you'd be here saying Israel is apartheid, the occupation is illegal and the genocide must stop.

 

Frankfooter

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Once again, you are admitting that all of those numbers you spew are all total fabrications and nothing more than propaganda.

You've been making a habit of contradicting yourself a lot lately.
They are the best numbers available, Shazi.
You want better numbers Israel has to end the genocide and stop killing journalists, medics, doctors and nurses.

 

shack

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They are the best numbers available, Shazi.
Since nobody can actually count them, by definition, the supposedly "best" numbers are totally fictional.

They are useless, baseless and worthless. You, yourself say nobody can do ANY COUNT AT ALL, let alone an accurate one.

You keep posting things that contradict your own lies/fantasies. Not very smart.
 

Klatuu

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Since nobody can actually count them, by definition, the supposedly "best" numbers are totally fictional.

They are useless, baseless and worthless. You, yourself say nobody can do ANY COUNT AT ALL, let alone an accurate one.

You keep posting things that contradict your own lies/fantasies. Not very smart.
The Ziontologist Thinking Cap - Head in the sand
 
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Frankfooter

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Since nobody can actually count them, by definition, the supposedly "best" numbers are totally fictional.

They are useless, baseless and worthless. You, yourself say nobody can do ANY COUNT AT ALL, let alone an accurate one.

You keep posting things that contradict your own lies/fantasies. Not very smart.
You think those numbers aren't still going up, Shazi?
This is what zionism stands for now, genocide.

 
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