Looks like there is Graft in the Harris Family too.....
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We are witnessing one of the most heavily coordinated gaslighting campaigns that the MSM has ever put together. "Kamala never wanted to abolish ICE. Never wanted to defund the police. Kamala never sent parents to jail for truancy." On and on, rewriting her history. On truancy (kids missing school for no legit reason): When Kamala was DA of SF, she started a program to prosecute parents for truancy. She sent out letters and even set up hotlines for parents to snitch on each other. She fined people, but she didn't send people to jail. But it wasn't an actual law at the time with jail as a punishment. That didn't stop her from continually threatening parents with jail time. In 2010, she made a centerpiece of her campaign for Attorney General the creation of a state wide law based on her truancy program as DA. That video of her giggling about prosecuting parents for truancy was from 2010. She pushed so hard that her truancy program became state law, now carrying the real threat of jail. When she became AG, DA's around California started prosecuting parents for truancy. But you will now hear, in unison, the MSM say "KAMALA NEVER SENT PARENTS TO JAIL FOR THEIR KID'S TRUANCY." Technically true? Yes. She wasn't the DA that actually did the prosecuting. Other DA's did it based on a law Kamala championed, and they did it while Kamala was AG. It was something that Kamala continually bragged about during her time as AG. In 2019 the media actually asked her about this. Kamala expressed regret that parents ended up in jail because of her program. In 2024 the media has one message, nobody went to jail because of Kamala's truancy policy.
It's the New York Post trying to make a new "Hunter Biden" to work with on short notice.
That said, Tony West is general counsel for Uber if I recall.
The odds he's kind of a shitty human being are quite high.
I'd like to see the original New York Times article they are citing here to see what they've taken out of context or framed to imply things that may or may not be backed up.
I'd also like to see what follow up the Times did since that article appears to be a decade old.
The framing here is very much "he was guiding the money to people as payoffs and so on" (they had to make it resonate with the previous Hunter work).
That's a thread that can be followed, but is also very hard to prove.
That's probably the point.
No.
The New York Post is digging up dirt to help Trump's cause.
Butler is just pointing out the right wing talking points du jour.
You're going to have to clarify that.
No other real estate investor has ever had a civil suit for fraud brought by the state of New York before?
Do you have proof of this statement?
(There is lots and lots of misinformation that got thrown around about this trial, so I am asking for sources.)
When did this happen?
Which trial is this supposed to be referring to?
That appears to be irrelevant to Butler.
No.
Butler's warning seems to be that weaponization of the justice system is perfectly fine if it targets Democrats. (Since "they started it".)
You can't just refute Butler's entire method of epistemology like that, kherg!
Once again - what is this referring to?
Again - evidence fraud charges have never been brought against someone in real estate before?
I guess the point here is that these allegations are about Harris' brother-in-law. Did Harris help him with this thing? Does she have any legal liability for whatever happens? The answer, and this might shock you or be controversial...is NO. So, in the real world (re: outside the right-wing fever swamp), this is a nothing burger. There are no ties to Harris, besides a familial relationship.
Now...when you look at all the shady shit for Trump -- He's either right in the middle of it, or its his kids. Now, should we blame Trump for shit that Don Jr., Eric or Ivanka do? Well, maybe. I mean, you can look at how Ivanka (and Jared) enriched herself during the Trump presidency. Did Kamala get money from ther BIL?
I'd call this another attempt by the right-wing Murdoch owned media to throw something at Harris and hope it sticks. But, it's just more right-wing bullshit.
Did he campaign specifically on charging Trump with those offenses?
No.
What he basically said was that he would hold Trump accountable. It is important to remember that the previous DA had evidence and allegations from other trials (hello Michael Cohn) and testimony before the senate.
If you want to talk about the rule of law being equal, you are right, Trump was not treated as another defendant. He was given preferential treatment. He was able to travel and talk shit about the judge like no other defendant would ever try. He was figuratively handled with kid gloves.
And while the right wants to paint what happened to Trump as unprecedented or a witch hunt, its more like the US has never had a president who blatantly broke the law before, in and out of office. If you can find that Biden, Obama or Clinton did similar things, I'd say throw the book at them. And I'm sure the FBI or DOJ would have done so. But...alas, there just isn't any credible evidence of wrong doing.
Actually, Hunter's gun charges are rarely ever prosecuted. They tend to be grouped into a larger bundle of charges and negotiated away during the plea deal period.
As for Trump: Why do you think this is a rare event, that someone is charged and convicted for fraud? Overstating the value of properties to secure a loan is illegal. And what Trump did is NOT something most developers do, no matter how much the talking heads on Fox tell you. Now, I would say that the banks are culpable to an extent here, they did not do their own due diligence into this, considering Trump's reputation. But, the reality is that Trump got better terms and money that might have gone to other more worthy businesses.
And...where did Biden's lawyers say he couldn't stand a trial? It didn't happen. Thanks for playing.
That's easy to fix.
When her BIL was doing this, Harris was AG in California.
At least some of these cases involved people in California, therefore she was involved.
That's all you need to set the horses off and running.
Remember the basic strategy that Trump happily laid out a couple of times.
- He asked Zelensky to announce an investigation into Biden.
- He asked the DOJ to just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to him and the Republican Congressmen.
And you would be correct.
Of course, there might actually be something. That's always a possibility.
It just isn't the point.
Are Kamala Harris and Maya Harris full sisters?
@mayaharris_
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Gotta love mitch under-cutting Butler here with irrelevant nonsense.
