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basketcase

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Answer the question.
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Clowning again because you can't deny that Israel has a significant Arab minority and openly offers citizenship to more Arabs in some areas.

Meanwhile the PA is 100% clear that Jews will never be allowed in any future Palestinian state and Hamas is busy trying to kill them off.
 

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You think those attitudes are only from Netanyahu?
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So the same guy who it's racist to suggest some Palestinians support Hamas' genocidal aims but you're happy to pretend Israelis are in thrall of Netanyahu even though you have posted that the vast majority of Israelis want a ceasefire now and Netanyahu gone.
 

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Clowning again because you can't deny that Israel has a significant Arab minority and openly offers citizenship to more Arabs in some areas.

Meanwhile the PA is 100% clear that Jews will never be allowed in any future Palestinian state and Hamas is busy trying to kill them off.
How can you support a country when you can't even say where the borders lie?
Why can't you say whether you think Gaza, the West Bank or Sheba Farms are in Israel or not?
 

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So the same guy who it's racist to suggest some Palestinians support Hamas' genocidal aims but you're happy to pretend Israelis are in thrall of Netanyahu even though you have posted that the vast majority of Israelis want a ceasefire now and Netanyahu gone.
Now you're going to argue that the only person backing the genocide is Netanyahu and its racist to bring up others who also back the genocide?

 

shack

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I forget that you are computer illiterate.
The link was provided in the previous post.
S. Africa was declared apartheid by the UN because certain citizens were treated more poorly than other citizens simply for the colour of their skin. Israel treats all of its' citizens equally regardless of skin, religion or gender. Israel is the antithesis of apartheid. It's an anti-Israeli trope.

You admit that Palestinians are not citizens. Every country in the world has the right to bestow or deny citizenship to anyone they want for whatever reason they want. It is an absolute right regardless of any other factors, including if someone is indigenous or not. It is irrelevant in regards to that absolute right. That is what absolute means.

You have yet to name one sovereign nation/country that does not have that right.


That post proves that Israel is not apartheid. I clearly say black and you claim I said white.

Your responses are Orwellian.
"War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength."


I never define Israel as being apartheid and you have been unable to prove it. All you have is Big Brother Doublespeak. Another epic fail for you.
 

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S. Africa was declared apartheid by the UN because certain citizens were treated more poorly than other citizens simply for the colour of their skin. Israel treats all of its' citizens equally regardless of skin, religion or gender. Israel is the antithesis of apartheid. It's an anti-Israeli trope.

You admit that Palestinians are not citizens. Every country in the world has the right to bestow or deny citizenship to anyone they want for whatever reason they want. It is an absolute right regardless of any other factors, including if someone is indigenous or not. It is irrelevant in regards to that absolute right. That is what absolute means.

You have yet to name one sovereign nation/country that does not have that right.


That post proves that Israel is not apartheid. I clearly say black and you claim I said white.

Your responses are Orwellian.
"War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength."


I never define Israel as being apartheid and you have been unable to prove it. All you have is Big Brother Doublespeak. Another epic fail for you.
South Africa denied citizenship to black South Africans.
They used citizenship laws the same way Israel does to enforce apartheid.

Another Shazi own goal.

 

shack

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South Africa denied citizenship to black South Africans.
From Wiki. A very extensive article on apartheid. There is no mention of citizenship denial, just restricting voting rights, so it seems that you are rewriting history in regards to citizenship. Israel has not restricted voting rights to any of their citizens. Further proof that Israel is not practising apartheid. S. Africa did, but not Israel.

Apartheid - Wikipedia
 

Frankfooter

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From Wiki. A very extensive article on apartheid. There is no mention of citizenship denial, just restricting voting rights, so it seems that you are rewriting history in regards to citizenship. Israel has not restricted voting rights to any of their citizens. Further proof that Israel is not practising apartheid. S. Africa did, but not Israel.

Apartheid - Wikipedia
Sure it does, Shazi.
It argues that black South Africans are citizens of their tribal lands only, the way you argue that Palestinians in Gaza are not citizens of Israel or Palestine.

This is yet another own goal.
You have proven beyond a doubt that you know Israel to be apartheid.

 

shack

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Sure it does, Shazi.
It argues that black South Africans are citizens of their tribal lands only, the way you argue that Palestinians in Gaza are not citizens of Israel or Palestine.
There's nothing to argue. They aren't citizens of Israel. If they were, They would have a vote. As it is, Gazans already get to vote in every single election in Gaza. Every one.
 

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There's nothing to argue. They aren't citizens of Israel. If they were, They would have a vote. As it is, Gazans already get to vote in every single election in Gaza. Every one.
Gaza is not a country.
Gaza is a concentration camp.
Under apartheid rule where the do not get to vote for their military overlords.

What next, you gonna declare that the Warsaw Ghetto was a full on democracy because Jews got to vote on who represented the to the nazis?
 

shack

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Gaza is not a country.
Exactly.

They have no borders.
They are not recognized by the UN.
They are allowed to be martyred by Hamas.
They are not citizens of Israel.
They have no right to vote in Israeli elections.
But they are allowed to vote in every single election held in Gaza.
 
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