The undeniable sad truth of this election is ...

[JuanGoodman]

 

[Valcazar]

Actually, I think Harris is very smart and she will devour Trump in a debate if Trump is stupid enough to show and she gave an amazing speech at the DNC - right up there with Obama and JFK ( but well below Lincoln).

She does have those skills you mention and will make a good President but I am assessing her by the standard comparison of other politicians and, man, that is a very low bar

So you say she will make a good President and that the bar for competence is low and she easily clears it.

I don't understand the point you are trying to make, then.

It will be (hopefully) her job to vet experts to get the best of the best advice on all topics , indeed, that is her only real job as the rest is pomp and circumstance and external dressing and it is the only job she cannot surrogate to someone else.
So, how can she vet experts on topics she is casually familiar with if at all?

Look at what Bush did in the two wars he started all from choosing the wrong experts

How does she know when to trust the FBI, the NSA or the CIA?

The list of what she will have to learn is a very long one and she has to start from scratch on a lot of the issues

She's been Vice President for 4 years.
She was on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

She seems to fly past the bar you've set with ease.
Also, if those are your criteria, you must think no one is qualified to be President?

Unless they have maybe been a career civil servant or actively been a spy?

 

[ogibowt]

The least of us rule the best of us


Harris was a prosecuter, apparently a very good one, but she knows very little to nothing about the grave issues like economics , international affairs, global warming , negotiations etc

Walz's resume on these gravely serious issues is even worse - he was a football coach for FFS!

Trump not only knows nothing he is a meglomaniac who thinks he is a genius and he is incapable of learning as he is amazingly stupid
and a compulsive liar with no moral compass

Vance is not erudite on these issues either

I vote for Harris because she is the best of two very incompetent candidates and, at least, she will listen to the experts

im gonna squeeze in here with a quick comment and then leave.....Policy Wonks rarely if ever win elections....politicians who know how to "work a crowd" do
yours truly Stephane Dion
Michael Igneteiff...sorry about my spelling

 

[Valcazar]

im gonna squeeze in here with a quick comment and then leave.....Policy Wonks rarely if ever win elections....politicians who know how to "work a crowd" do
yours truly Stephane Dion
Michael Igneteiff...sorry about my spelling

But there is a fair argument for saying that the fact election skills are so unrelated to actual governing skills is a problem.

 

[JuanGoodman]

"Lets not forget how stupid some voters are!

She's merely speaking to the intelligence level of her supporters "

 

[Butler1000]

If you are going to use the "experience" thing then doesn't four years actually as President factor in?

Just saying,......

 

[Zoot Allures]

OK, sure, but other than a vague "you don't like them" what evidence do you have that they don't meet this criteria?


Studying and learning things is a major part of being a politician.
True, not all of them do it, but unless you have some evidence they don't, I don't see how you know this.

Nope, they have to give evidence that they have the criterea
I do not have to prove they do not

Ah.
So this is just personal taste.
You want to hear an answer and if she hasn't given one you have heard, you think she's incompetent.

Nope , I jus t want an answer, I would apprecite it if she disagreed with me then proved me wrong so I could learn but not proving your point with an educated lesson is typical politics

As you also know, some economists think "this money will go into investments and create more jobs so it is wise to to give the wealthy tax breaks and it is wise to keep health care private etc" are all completely wrong ideas with terrible evidence to support them.

I do not know the answers so I want the politicians to educate me with evidence not what sounds good in a sound bite



So if the economists disagree, is your complaint just that she disagrees with you and must therefore be incompetent?

If your argument is "I want to hear more in-depth policy discussions from all candidates" that's fine, but it is very unlikely you will.
The media doesn't care about that and neither do most voters.
Even if she had a talk about that, it would almost certainly not be reported.
You would have to meet her face to face and talk to her.



She would easily pass high school economics, I am sure.
What has she said that makes you think she couldn't pass high school economics?

I said based on what she has taught us she would not pass the simpliest of economics courses not that she does not know anything. She has a law degree so I am sure she studied ecenomics

Do you think Presidents and governments have magic powers to control the economy?



The future isn't here because it isn't the future yet.
I'm not sure what you are asking for here.

Why is it that she can create this utopia when other democrats , incuding her heroes, could not? I guess that makes them a failure

This sounds like a policy disagreement, not a question of incompetence.



None of that has anything to do with negotiations.
That's about personal investment.
He's also not the world's richest man and has never been close to being so.

That is true. He just claims to be IE always lying his way into the Forbes richest person yearly edition and personal investment shows
judgement like nothing else

Replying to quotes within quotes, which what I am trying to here is impossible LOL

 

[mitchell76]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1827106862501597434

 

[Zoot Allures]

So you say she will make a good President and that the bar for competence is low and she easily clears it.

I don't understand the point you are trying to make, then.



She's been Vice President for 4 years.
She was on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

She seems to fly past the bar you've set with ease.
Also, if those are your criteria, you must think no one is qualified to be President?

Unless they have maybe been a career civil servant or actively been a spy?

The critera I set out is hard indeed but she is qualified compared to other politicians

 

[Zoot Allures]

If you are going to use the "experience" thing then doesn't four years actually as President factor in?

Just saying,......

Yes it counts

 

[Zoot Allures]

But there is a fair argument for saying that the fact election skills are so unrelated to actual governing skills is a problem.

I agree

 

[Frankfooter]

For example, Harris states Trump is all about giving tax breaks to the wealthy then gives no explanation as to why this is wrong. Some economists believe that this money will go into investments and create more jobs so it is wise to give the wealthy tax breaks
and it is wise to keep health care private etc so I want to hear an erudite answer

She would not pass a high school economics course based on what she has said

We've had 50 years of tax breaks to the wealthy and things are not going that well where they've been implemented.
That's just one school of thought but that experiment has failed.
There are other ideas.

A huge study of 50 years of tax cuts for the wealthy suggests 'trickle-down' economics makes inequality worse

Cutting taxes boosts incomes for the wealthy "but has little effect on economic performance," the academics David Hope and Julian Limberg said.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Frankfooter]

Yes it counts

Would being impeached twice count against that experience?

 

[Butler1000]

I would add that imo military experience should be required to qualify for the position. I don't care how many experts, you shouldn't be sending people to their deaths without having had some experience with being on the other end.

 

[DesRicardo]

I would add that imo military experience should be required to qualify for the position. I don't care how many experts, you shouldn't be sending people to their deaths without having had some experience with being on the other end.

You could say that for every aspect of running the country.

You just won't find someone that ticks all the boxes.

 

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[SchlongConery]

Actually, I think Harris is very smart and she will devour Trump in a debate if Trump is stupid enough to show and she gave an amazing speech at the DNC - right up there with Obama and JFK ( but well below Lincoln).

She does have those skills you mention and will make a good President but I am assessing her by the standard comparison of other politicians and, man, that is a very low bar

It will be (hopefully) her job to vet experts to get the best of the best advice on all topics , indeed, that is her only real job as the rest is pomp and circumstance and external dressing and it is the only job she cannot surrogate to someone else.
So, how can she vet experts on topics she is casually familiar with if at all?

Look at what Bush did in the two wars he started all from choosing the wrong experts

How does she know when to trust the FBI, the NSA or the CIA?

The list of what she will have to learn is a very long one and she has to start from scratch on a lot of the issues

GWB did not exhibit good judgement. He was intelligent enough to lrarn to fly fighter jets so there's that.

But I think Kamala has observed a lot in the Senate and her apprenticing under Biden in terms of not only knowing people to choose, but being able to make good choices.

Time will tell.

 

[Butler1000]

You could say that for every aspect of running the country.

You just won't find someone that ticks all the boxes.

The fact they are the Commander in Chief and can order the military to limited war action makes it quite different.

The Congress does budget, judicial appointments, dept. appointments, and a host of other things. SCOTUS checks the laws. Basically in many ways the President has little to do with domestic policy besides asking. But on foreign policy and military action beyond getting a Congressional approval(for funding) they are the primary.

So ticking those boxes imo are the primary qualifications.

 

[kherg007]

As noted, campaigning is not governing. Trump has been already rated amongst the worst presidents ever. He's a criminal and a fraudster. He tried to overturn an election. He's sworn off democracy. He left the country in tatters. But his underlings profited handsomely, many indicted for corruption. As did trump who charged the taxpayers maximum rates for everything. He accepted bribes from Egypt. He put Putins word over his own Intel agencies. He stole classified documents. The vast majority of the people who worked with him as president say he's unfit for office. He's ow vowed to dump constitution, be a dictator, replace competence with loyalty, and use govt to go after enemies.

It's not a one person gig. Who will Harris surround herself with? The Biden people inherited a country in free fall, and have led the world fighting inflation, best GDP, lowest unemployment, highest stock market, restored America's respect internationally, no corruption. Border crossings lower now than when Trump was president. So, if she sticks with this group she'll be fine as president. If she puts competence over loyalty she'll be fine. If she goes for friends and loyalists...look out, would be awful.

 

[oil&gas]

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It's not a one person gig. Who will Harris surround herself with? The Biden people inherited a country in free fall, and have led the world fighting inflation, best GDP, lowest unemployment, highest stock market, restored America's respect internationally, no corruption. ............................

Here is one issue for which Trump won't do a worse
job than Biden/Harris, namely climate change.

Biden inherited from Trump a record of lower carbon emission.

US greenhouse gas emissions drop under Trump, but climate experts aren’t celebrating

As Donald Trump prepares to leave office, U.S. greenhouse gas emissions are plunging to levels not seen in decades. But experts say it isn’t happening fast enough.

abcnews.go.com

And Biden turned out to be a climate disaster as well as a climate liar in the
light of the 'climate actions' taken by him like setting bogus promises of
phasing out fossil fuel and deceptive net zero emission target. I bet carbon
emission level will show no improvement under Harris given her reversal of
stance on fracking ban. And worse the climate hypocrite's plan of climate
spending could bankrupt the nation.

That time Kamala Harris sued Obama-Biden over fracking

Joe Biden's support for fracking and Kamala Harris' opposition to it represent one of the deepest fault lines within the Democratic presidential ticket. The

www.eenews.net

Kamala Harris will not ban fracking if she wins White House, campaign says

Harris, who had previously urged fracking ban fracking, plans to highlight climate contrast between Democrats and Trump

www.theguardian.com

Kamala Harris Once Trashed Fracking, and Pennsylvania Hasn't Forgotten

The vice president’s past call for a fracking ban raises doubts in the must-win, gas-producing state.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca