The Israel Lobby

southpaw

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Because you've made your belief that Jews control the US clear. I don't get why you're trying to hide it.
I'm not hiding anything. Israel is a foreign country. AIPAC interferes in US elections on behalf of this foreign country.

Ever heard the story of the boy who cried wolf? Eventually, people stopped caring. And that's what's happening here.

AIPAC never had to spend millions to defeat candidates before. Why do they have to now? In primaries no less?
 
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shack

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You're the one trying to argue its antisemitic to talk about AIPAC.
Intentional misrepresentation.

It is not anti-Semitic to talk about AIPAC. What is anti-Semitic, is the way you characterize AIPAC.

You should stop lying about what other people say.
 

southpaw

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It is not anti-Semitic to talk about AIPAC. What is anti-Semitic, is the way you characterize AIPAC.
How should we characterize AIPAC to meet your standards?
 

Frankfooter

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It is not anti-Semitic to talk about AIPAC. What is anti-Semitic, is the way you characterize AIPAC.

You should stop lying about what other people say.
So you think its just antisemitic when I talk about AIPAC.
Of course.

Why is saying they should be labelled as foreign lobbyists antisemitic?
Are you arguing that all Jews are zionists again?
 

shack

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So you think its just anti-Semitic when I talk about AIPAC.
Why do I have to repeat myself? I just finished saying that simply talking about AIPAC, in and of itself, is not being anti-Semitic.

I said that the way you characterize AIPAC is what is anti-Semitic. The things you say about the organization is.
 

basketcase

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I'm not hiding anything. Israel is a foreign country. AIPAC interferes in US elections on behalf of this foreign country.

Ever heard the story of the boy who cried wolf? Eventually, people stopped caring. And that's what's happening here.

AIPAC never had to spend millions to defeat candidates before. Why do they have to now? In primaries no less?
Oh, now the Jews are stealing elections :eek:

It's telling that you're so obsessed with Jewish Americans pushing policy on foreign relations but have absolutely no comment on Arab Americans, Saudi Americans, Chinese Americans, Ukrainian Americans, ....
 

basketcase

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You're the one trying to argue its antisemitic to talk about AIPAC.
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You're the one who posted the JFK's assassination was a Jewish plot.

This is just like every other case, you're not upset about Jewish Americans spending money, you're upset that voters didn't do what you want them to.
 

southpaw

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It's telling that you're so obsessed with Jewish Americans pushing policy on foreign relations but have absolutely no comment on Arab Americans, Saudi Americans, Chinese Americans, Ukrainian Americans, ....
I would if they did what AIPAC does. Please share where any of these groups have spent millions of dollars to oust an incumbent in a US election. Link please.
 

Frankfooter

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Oh, now the Jews are stealing elections :eek:

It's telling that you're so obsessed with Jewish Americans pushing policy on foreign relations but have absolutely no comment on Arab Americans, Saudi Americans, Chinese Americans, Ukrainian Americans, ....
Arguing that AIPAC represents 'the Jews' is an antisemitic trope.
Cut it out.
 

basketcase

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I would if they did what AIPAC does. Please share where any of these groups have spent millions of dollars to oust an incumbent in a US election. Link please.
First, yes, all those groups lobby. US law allows them to.
Foreign groups also have a huge role in university educations which they use to promote their agendas. Us law allows them to.
PACs raise money for political campaigns. US law allows them to.

But you only take issue with jews and get upset because democracy didn't go the way you wanted.
 

Frankfooter

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First, yes, all those groups lobby. US law allows them to.
Foreign groups also have a huge role in university educations which they use to promote their agendas. Us law allows them to.
PACs raise money for political campaigns. US law allows them to.

But you only take issue with jews and get upset because democracy didn't go the way you wanted.
You're against it when Russians or Chinese do it but support it when its done for Israel.
 
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