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Kamala Harris - is she fit to be President?

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Let’s take Trump out of the picture here as many have TDS. Yes, we know the talking points - he’s old, senile, a crook, a sexist, a bad former President, racist, low IQ, will destroy the economy, and none of the leaders respect him. The we can’t have Trump as President so we must elect the opposing candidate view.

Let’s just say Kamala was running against Obama or Bill Clinton. What would be positive talking points for Kamala? She has yet to have any press interviews articulating any of her points. What would you say might be some strengths she has over a normal candidate like Obama or Clinton? Maybe even strengths in general.

This isn’t a Kamala bashing thread, but as a person who has always voted democrat, I can’t find anything good about her. We have smart people here and would like to see what other people view as her unique strengths.
 

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Let’s just say Kamala was running against Obama or Bill Clinton. What would be positive talking points for Kamala? She has yet to have any press interviews articulating any of her points. What would you say might be some strengths she has over a normal candidate like Obama or Clinton? Maybe even strengths in general.
Being fit to be president is a low bar. Perhaps start with that before comparing Harris against other standards like Obama. Use the same fitness standard for the other candidate.

This post raises a question, why do many call Harris by her first name?
 
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Lawyer, prosecutor, AG, senator and then VP.

Should we also have you take an IQ test to see if you are able to properly judge her?
See, this doesn’t help anyone. By asking this question, it defaults to bashing Trump, and in this case asking about my intelligence. She’s running for President, not me. She’s not your girlfriend or mother, you don’t need to be so protective.

You listed her positions, great. I would assume most people who run for President had important positions prior to running and maybe they were effective or maybe they were given those position due to support and $ from lobbyists and special interest groups, and ultimately weren’t that effective in their tenure.

What did she accomplish that was a positive? I’m trying to critically think about whether she has what it takes to be a good President, not a placeholder.
 

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What did she accomplish that was a positive? I’m trying to critically think about whether she has what it takes to be a good President, not a placeholder.
She is the American version of Trudeau with a more
impressive CV. That is good enough at a time when
nearly half of the population are inclined to vote Trump.
 

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See, this doesn’t help anyone. By asking this question, it defaults to bashing Trump, and in this case asking about my intelligence. She’s running for President, not me.
It does not automatically default to bashing trump. This question of yours is automatically defaulting to bashing Harris.

The last I looked both of them are running for Prez and thankfully, not you. As such they are both under the same microscope. The vote is an election based on comparing the two of them. As such, evaluating one as a stand-alone is not meaningful.
 
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This whole thread appears to be just a means to shit on any accomplishments Harris has achieved. She is college educated, has a law degree, was a successful DA and AG. But you say that these may not be accomplishments because they might have been influenced by lobbyist or money. And you don't want to discuss the fitness of Trump.
So, let's just say this:
  • Harris is for the middle class. She is not going to screw them over with the appearance of tax cuts that really only benefit the wealthy.
  • She seems to care about people, and can make difficult decisions. More importantly, she understands the role and office of president. She knows she serves for ALL Americans, not just MAGA.
  • She isn't a pathological liar, and has not shown that ethics and morals are a foreign concept.
  • She can do bipartisan deals, but push her legislative agenda.
  • She is not compromised by foreign powers.
  • She abides by the US Constitution and isn't working to overthrow or suspend it, even for one day...
So, I think that shows that she is more than fit to hold the highest elected office in the US.
 
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This whole thread appears to be just a means to shit on any accomplishments Harris has achieved. She is college educated, has a law degree, was a successful DA and AG. But you say that these may not be accomplishments because they might have been influenced by lobbyist or money. And you don't want to discuss the fitness of Trump.
So, let's just say this:
  • Harris is for the middle class. She is not going to screw them over with the appearance of tax cuts that really only benefit the wealthy.
  • She seems to care about people, and can make difficult decisions. More importantly, she understands the role and office of president. She knows she serves for ALL Americans, not just MAGA.
  • She isn't a pathological liar, and has not shown that ethics and morals are a foreign concept.
  • She can do bipartisan deals, but push her legislative agenda.
  • She is not compromised by foreign powers.
  • She abides by the US Constitution and isn't working to overthrow or suspend it, even for one day...
So, I think that shows that she is more than fit to hold the highest elected office in the US.
It’s not a means to shit on her. Voting in America is said to be a privledge.

Every candidate for President should be put under the microscope and looked at more critically than any other position. Not paraded around. This goes for democrats and republicans. There are plenty of Trump bashing threads and creating a new one doesn’t add any value. Lets just say Trump is not fit to be President.

This is an opportunity to really talk about if she’s capable. Maybe someone who didn’t like her will look at this and gain a favorable view.
 
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It does not automatically default to bashing trump. This question of yours is automatically defaulting to bashing Harris.

The last I looked both of them are running for Prez and thankfully, not you. As such they are both under the same microscope. The vote is an election based on comparing the two of them. As such, evaluating one as a stand-alone is not meaningful.
Thankfully not me huh? Convince me if you can she has what it takes to be an effective President. This just proved my point that you default to the easiest response, which is bashing the poster.
 
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It’s not a means to shit on her. Voting in America is said to be a privledge.

Every candidate should be put under the microscope and looked at more critically than any other position. Not paraded around. This goes for democrats and republicans. There are plenty of Trump bashing threads and creating a new one doesn’t add any value.

This is an opportunity to really talk about if she’s capable. Maybe someone who didn’t like her will look at this and gain a favorable view.
What more experience or skills would you want?
VP is about as close as you can get.
 

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It’s not a means to shit on her. Voting in America is said to be a privledge.

Every candidate should be put under the microscope and looked at more critically than any other position. Not paraded around. This goes for democrats and republicans. There are plenty of Trump bashing threads and creating a new one doesn’t add any value. Lets just say Trump is not fit to be President.

This is an opportunity to really talk about if she’s capable. Maybe someone who didn’t like her will look at this and gain a favorable view.
Sure bud.

But, since she's running against Trump, I think virtually anyone would be a better choice than him. He proved that during his term as President. He failed to accomplish 99% of his major goals and showed time and again that he didn't have the temperament.

But, let's look at their policies.

Trump's can basically be summed up as scare the bejesus out of people. SEAL THE BORDER! STOP CRIME!
There are absolutely no details on how he will go about "Making America Great Again," outside his buzz words and gripes.
He screams about cutting funding to schools that use CRT, something that's been disproven, but a MAGA greatest hits...

Harris' platform is still being rolled out. I know she's talking about helping the middle class, but not many details are out yet. I think she'll articulate them further at the DNC.
 

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Sure bud.

But, since she's running against Trump, I think virtually anyone would be a better choice than him. He proved that during his term as President. He failed to accomplish 99% of his major goals and showed time and again that he didn't have the temperament.

But, let's look at their policies.

Trump's can basically be summed up as scare the bejesus out of people. SEAL THE BORDER! STOP CRIME!
There are absolutely no details on how he will go about "Making America Great Again," outside his buzz words and gripes.
He screams about cutting funding to schools that use CRT, something that's been disproven, but a MAGA greatest hits...

Harris' platform is still being rolled out. I know she's talking about helping the middle class, but not many details are out yet. I think she'll articulate them further at the DNC.
Harris has not come up with any policies.....LMAO
 

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Eddie asks a reasonable question.
Her "resume" is better than Obama's. They were each senator for only a few years, but she has AG experience in a state larger in population than Canada or Australia. And, she's been VP for almost 4 years so she has had an opportunity to watch how it works up close.
Clinton had more executive experience as a Governor. A bit more than GWB. But GWB was Gov of a much bigger state. And a border state.
In contrast, GHWB had congressional and executive experience (head of cia, UN ambassador, plus 8 years VP experience.
Reagan was a 2 term Governor of California.
Trump ran a small private company. (It was believed to be a lot bigger when he was elected, we've since learned it was like 25 people).
Being president is not a one person job. It's an administration. I look to how they make decisions, and who they surround themselves with. Then the policies.
Kamala had a rough start as VP. Was effective in her previous gigs. She seems to have learned from her previous experiences. She seems pretty disciplined so far. She has been involved in an effective presidency. (Yes, look at numbers, don't listen to pundits. GDP, unemployment, stock market all better, crime lowest in 50 years. USA had best inflation response in developed world and its now down to its 2%ish acceptable rate. Border under control now after a rough couple of years and GOP sabotaging their own plan. Look at the bi-partisan bills Biden got done despite fervent opposition).
Thus, being part of this administration should help her if she's elected. She's had access to good people who know what they're doing and know how government works. And, an admin with almost no scandals (like Obama. Trump like Nixon with indictments and convictions everywhere. Zero for Obama, same with Biden).
I think Peggy Noonan (conservative speechwriter for Reagan/Bush) said it best - although Harris' rallies have this Obama quality, the difference is Obama created a movement, whereas Harris was created by a movement. (Or something like that).
But, until you see them in the gig w 100% responsibility, you don't know.
 

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According to democrats / liberals...it doesn't matter if she isn't fit to be president it doesn't matter if she's going to run the country to the ground...as long as not orangeman felon rapist drumpf...
 
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According to democrats / liberals...it doesn't matter if she isn't fit to be president it doesn't matter if she's going to run the country to the ground...as long as not orangeman felon rapist drumpf...
Why would you think she's not fit to be POTUS?
 
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It’s not a means to shit on her. Voting in America is said to be a privledge.

Every candidate should be put under the microscope and looked at more critically than any other position. Not paraded around. This goes for democrats and republicans. There are plenty of Trump bashing threads and creating a new one doesn’t add any value. Lets just say Trump is not fit to be President.

This is an opportunity to really talk about if she’s capable. Maybe someone who didn’t like her will look at this and gain a favorable view.
Voting is a right, not a privilege. Unless you are a republican. A right cannot be taken away. A privilege can be revoked.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...l-right-or-a-privilege-with-responsibilities/
 
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I'm glad you can read. Comprehension is next.

As I said, she's revealing her platform and policies. When she puts them out, we can see the differences...
It's not the fact the has or hasn't put out on. It's the fact she has reversed course on so many previous ones, sometimes within a day when requestioned on them.

So much like Trump, can we trust what she says in the face of pressure after the fact?
 
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