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History lesson for you. On July 22 1946, the Jewish paramilitary group Irgun blew up the King David hotel in Jerusalem killing 91 people, many of them civilians from several countries. One of the commanders of Irgun later became prime minister of Israel. Menachem Begin was his name
Irgun was a terror group. There is no doubt about that. Israel also forcibly disarmed them at the beginning of Israel's existence, forcing them to be a purely political group and has gonse so far as to designate a couple Jewish extremist groups as terrorists and banning them.

That does excuse terrorism from Hamas or the 100 years of Arab/Palestinian attacking on civilians.

The Irish solution of acknowledging past violence but vowing to abandon terrorism is needed but there is no interest from the Iranian-backed terror groups.
 

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How about we go further....
The Hebron massacre was the killing of sixty-seven or sixty-nine Jews on 24 August 1929 in Hebron, then part of Mandatory Palestine, by Arabs incited to violence by rumors that Jews were planning to seize control of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.[1] The event also left scores seriously wounded or maimed. Jewish homes were pillaged and synagogues were ransacked. Some of the 435 Jews in Hebron who survived were hidden by local Arab families,[2] although the extent of this phenomenon is debated.[3] Soon after, all Hebron's Jews were evacuated by the British authorities.[4] Many returned in 1931, but almost all were evacuated at the outbreak of the 1936–39 Arab revolt in Palestine. The massacre formed part of the 1929 Palestine riots, in which a total of 133 Jews and 110 Arabs were killed, the majority of the latter by British police and military,[5] and brought the centuries-old Jewish presence in Hebron to an end.
Or the Nebi Musa attacks in 1920 which targeted Jerusalem's longstanding indigenous Jewish population.
 
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Irgun was a terror group. There is no doubt about that. Israel also forcibly disarmed them at the beginning of Israel's existence, forcing them to be a purely political group and has gonse so far as to designate a couple Jewish extremist groups as terrorists and banning them.

That does excuse terrorism from Hamas or the 100 years of Arab/Palestinian attacking on civilians.

The Irish solution of acknowledging past violence but vowing to abandon terrorism is needed but there is no interest from the Iranian-backed terror groups.
Poorly educated
 

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Perhaps we can go back to biblical times? The point is neither side has clean hands. Hamas slaughtered 1200 and captured 240 on October 7. Israel has killed close to 40,000 Palestinians, several of whom are defenceless women and children, and destroyed practically all of Gaza. Even in the West Bank, Israel continues to kill innocent people and confisticate Palestinian land.
In my opinion, the biblical times are irrelevant. What matters is there are 8 million Israeli jews, 2 million Israeli Arabs, and 5 million Palestinians there now and any peace deal requires all sides to accept each others existence and right to continue existing as a first step.
 
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In my opinion, the biblical times are irrelevant. What matters is there are 8 million Israeli jews, 2 million Israeli Arabs, and 5 million Palestinians there now and any peace deal requires all sides to accept each others existence and right to continue existing as a first step.
If you believe that, it obviously disqualifies genocide and ethnic cleansing.
 
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You supported October 7, right?

Especially the gang rapes and the kidnapping of children and old people?

You thought the Israelis got what they deserved, right?
That is wrong, but nice try. I despise Hamas but object to the resulting genocide against all the Palestinian people perpetrated by the Israelis.... it is literally overkill.
 

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Yes and no. Hamas played it dirty by operating around civillians and using them as human shields.
Israel cut off food, water, medicines, electricity, fuel into Gaza after October 7. They called it the siege. This has resulted in the deaths of untold number of people and is an act of terrorism. The cruelty of Netanyahu and his fellow war criminals knows no bounds.
 
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In my opinion, the biblical times are irrelevant. What matters is there are 8 million Israeli jews, 2 million Israeli Arabs, and 5 million Palestinians there now and any peace deal requires all sides to accept each others existence and right to continue existing as a first step.
Bad math. Poorly educated
 

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Israel cut off food, water, medicines, electricity, fuel into Gaza after October 7. They called it the siege. This has resulted in the deaths of untold number of people and is an act of terrorism. The cruelty of Netanyahu and his fellow war criminals knows no bounds.
But what about all the aid Hamas is hoarding? They were killing Palestinians trying to get it? Nonetheless, war is never good and innocent lives will be lost. We all knew what was expected and what the response was going to be by Israel after the October 7 Hamas attack. There are other solutions to deal with Israel and Palestinian issues, but unfortunately for Palestinian people Hamas only solution is Violence.


 

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It is generally understood that, for every person an occupation force eliminates, ten people are becoming sworn enemies of the force.

Do the math. By now the entire Palestinian people have become radicalized enemies of Israel forever.
They already were bro
 
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In my opinion, the biblical times are irrelevant. What matters is there are 8 million Israeli jews, 2 million Israeli Arabs, and 5 million Palestinians there now and any peace deal requires all sides to accept each others existence and right to continue existing as a first step.
You're lying and you know it.
Zionists like yourself are deathly afraid of equal rights under Israeli rule as they know that Palestinians are the majority.

You're going to have to kill more than 186,000 to fix the demographic time bomb, basketcase.

Jews now a 47% minority in Israel and the territories, demographer says
Arnon Soffer says proportion of Jews between Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River lower than widely believed when non-citizens are taken into account
 

K Douglas

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Hello. The Jewish terrorists became part of the government of Israel and that government has killed thousands of Palestinians. State sanctioned slaughter of innocents is terrorism practiced by the state.

Just look at Gaza and the way Israel is prosecuting the war against Hamas. They have killed thousands of innocents in hospitals, schools, refugee centers, residential areas, etc. They could have targeted Hamas operatives with precision bombing instead of using 2000 pound bombs. This government of Israel is a far worse terrorist entity than Hamas because of the huge instruments of terror at their disposal.
Begin has been long gone from gov't. The Israeli gov't does not target innocent civilians you're reading lies and propaganda. Have innocent people been killed, sure. Its a war that happens. Israel has some of the most precise weapons technology on the planet and they use it to the best of their abilities to minimize civilian casualties.
 
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You're lying and you know it.
Zionists like yourself are deathly afraid of equal rights under Israeli rule as they know that Palestinians are the majority.

You're going to have to kill more than 186,000 to fix the demographic time bomb, basketcase.

Jews now a 47% minority in Israel and the territories, demographer says
Arnon Soffer says proportion of Jews between Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River lower than widely believed when non-citizens are taken into account
Of course they are and they should be. Because if they ever become the minority in a one state they will be exterminated. You think what they are doing know is apartheid and genocide? Wait until you see what the 'Palestinians' do when the get the levers of authority.
 

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