Hamas leader killed in Iran

Frankfooter

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Russia already condemned this “political murder”.
I am waiting for local team hamas to start complaining.
Israel did this assassination in Iran, another assassination in Lebanon and released the anal gang raping IDF soldiers yesterday.
They really are such a noble people, always interested in peace and love.
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Israel Has a History of Killing Hamas Leaders Who Are Trying To Secure Ceasefires
Benjamin Netanyahu’s reckless assassination of Ismail Haniyeh undermines the prospects for a peace deal and the release of the hostages.
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(Ismail Haniyeh in Doha, Qatar, on March 26, 2024. Photo by AFP via Getty Images)
“Israel's leaders killed three birds with one stone,” wrote Reuven Pedatzur, a senior military affairs analyst for the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. “They assassinated the man who had the power to make a deal with Israel; they took revenge on someone who had caused more than a few Israeli casualties; and they signaled to Hamas that communications with it will be conducted only through military force.”
Was Pedatzur referring to the Israeli assassination of senior Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, the head of the group’s political bureau, in Tehran in the early hours of Wednesday morning?
No. Pedatzur died in a road traffic accident in 2014. His quote from Haaretz, above, was in response to the Israeli assassination of another senior Hamas commander, Ahmed Jabari, in November 2012, which kicked off the 2012 Gaza war.
As my former colleague at The Intercept, Jon Schwarz, documented in great detail last year, “Jabari had come to believe that it was in the best interest of Palestinians for Hamas to negotiate a long-term truce” and had been in communication with the respected Israeli peace activist Gershon Baskin. “Just before the assassination, [Baskin] gave Jabari a draft proposal for such a truce to review and approve. The draft was agreed to by Baskin and Hamas’s deputy foreign minister, and Baskin also said he had previously shown it to Ehud Barak, then the Israeli minister of defense.”
Would Jabari have signed off on a ‘hudna,’ or long-term truce, between Hamas and Israel? We’ll never know.
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Israel, in fact, has a long and cynical history of killing Hamas leaders who are in the midst of ceasefire negotiations or, even, proposing long-term truces with the Jewish state.
Remember Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the quadriplegic co-founder and spiritual leader of Hamas? He was assassinated less than three months after he proposed a long-term truce with Israel “if a Palestinian state is established in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.”
His successor, Abdel Aziz al-Rantisi, was assassinated less than three months after he made a similar truce offer to Israel.
Then there was the Netanyahu government’s 2012 assassination of Jabari, who, as mentioned, was reviewing a “long-term mutual cease-fire” deal just “hours before he was killed,” according to Baskin.
The parallels between 2012 and 2024, between the killings of Jabari and Haniyeh, are eery.
"He was in line to die, not an angel and not a righteous man of peace,” Baskin said of Jabari shortly after his killing, “but his assassination also killed the possibility of achieving a truce and also the Egyptian mediators’ ability to function.”
The same could be said of Haniyeh. Mainstream Western media outlets agree that the Hamas leader was – by Hamas standards – a “pragmatist”; a key figure in the ongoing negotiations to secure a ceasefire in Gaza and free the Israeli hostages.
From Reuters:
“For all the tough language in public, Arab diplomats and officials had viewed [Haniyeh] as relatively pragmatic compared with more hardline voices inside Gaza, where the military wing of Hamas planned the October 7 attack. While telling Israel's military they would find themselves ‘drowning in the sands of Gaza,’ he and his predecessor as Hamas leader, Khaled Meshaal, had shuttled around the region for talks over a Qatari-brokered cease-fire deal with Israel that would include exchanging hostages for Palestinians in Israeli jails as well as more aid for Gaza.”
From Sky News:
“Haniyeh was the pragmatic face of Hamas. He was less hard-line and militaristic than Yahya Sinwar, who is the head of Hamas inside Gaza and is leading the battle. Haniyeh was the public face of Hamas's diplomacy in Arab capitals. He was leading efforts to negotiate a ceasefire in Gaza.”
This was the person that the far-right Israeli government of Benjamin Netanyahu chose to assassinate on Iranian soil on Wednesday.
Why?
Put simply, Netanyahu and his coalition of fascists and bigots do not want a deal to release the hostages. They prefer to continue the war, no matter the cost to Gaza’s civilians or to their own citizens still held inside of the enclave. Despite Joe Biden’s ludicrous claims to the contrary, it is Netanyahu who has been the biggest obstacle to a deal to free Israel’s hostages in Gaza. The former spokesperson for the hostages’ families says Netanyahu rejected a deal. Benny Gantz, a former member of Israel’s war cabinet, says Netanyahu blocked a deal. Israeli defense officials tell Haaretz that “Netanyahu systematically foiled the negotiations to free the hostages.”
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There is nothing new here. To misquote Winston Churchill, Israel has always preferred “war-war” over “jaw-jaw.” Israeli governments – especially those led by Netanyahu – have preferred having Hamas as the permanent enemy – or as an “asset,” to quote the current Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich – rather than trying to do a permanent deal with Hamas.
As the late Israeli journalist Pedatzur wrote, in his analysis of the disastrous Jabari assassination in 2012:
“Our decision makers, including the defense minister and perhaps also Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, knew about Jabari’s role in advancing a permanent cease-fire agreement. … Thus the decision to kill Jabari shows that our decision makers decided a cease-fire would be undesirable for Israel at this time, and that attacking Hamas would be preferable.”
Change the name ‘Jabari’ to ‘Haniyeh’ above, and those words could have been written today.
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Hamas isn't interested in negotiations and never were. The only alternative is to obliterate them. Israel should have done this a long time ago.
 

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Niniveh, if they were truly interested in a ceasefire, they had months to set it up and do it and return the hostages and arrange some sort of deal for permanent co existence w Israel. They're not really interested in doing anything but sucking up donations and killing Jews.

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Niniveh, if they were truly interested in a ceasefire, they had months to set it up and do it and return the hostages and arrange some sort of deal for permanent co existence w Israel. They're not really interested in doing anything but sucking up donations and killing Jews.

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Maybe don’t take children hostages and you would live longer 🤷‍♀️
 

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Niniveh, if they were truly interested in a ceasefire, they had months to set it up and do it and return the hostages and arrange some sort of deal for permanent co existence w Israel. They're not really interested in doing anything but sucking up donations and killing Jews.
Hamas has been offering ceasefire deals for 10 months now.
The only time hostages were returned was through a negotiated ceasefire deal that Netanyahu ended.

Israel isn't interested in returning the hostages, Netanyahu needs the genocide and raping to continue for him to cling to power.
Now he's working to start a war with Iran to keep it going.



 

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Hamas has been offering ceasefire deals for 10 months now.
The only time hostages were returned was through a negotiated ceasefire deal that Netanyahu ended.

Israel isn't interested in returning the hostages, Netanyahu needs the genocide and raping to continue for him to cling to power.
Now he's working to start a war with Iran to keep it going.



they offered ceasefire after the massacre of oct 7 and still holding some hostages...celebrated the corpse on the streets and vowed to do Oct 7 over and over again... Hamas is responsible for everything that happened in Gaza...maybe offer flowers to your neighbors and not rockets...
 

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Hamas has been offering ceasefire deals for 10 months now.
The only time hostages were returned was through a negotiated ceasefire deal that Netanyahu ended.
You are rewriting history.

The ceasefire was negotiated on the terms that said the ceasefire would hold as long as Hamas stuck with the timetable for releasing Israeli hostages that both sides agreed to. It was a quid pro quo. Israel says we won't fire as long as you are returning out hostages.

Hamas unilaterally decided to stop returning hostages according to what had been negotiated. They knew in advance what they were doing. They knowingly and intentionally broke the ceasefire. Why would Israel hold to a ceasefire when Hamas stopped honouring their obligation?
 

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Israel did this assassination in Iran,
The vermin rat was designated an international terrorist and was fair game wherever he was.

Iran is embarrassed that Israel could just walk right into Tehran and conduct a precision strike with a snap of their fingers. Iran needs to be careful when dealing with Israel. Israel's capabilities in the area, including being a deterrent to Iran, is the actual reason that the US continues to support Israel. Not because of lobby groups or donations.
 

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The vermin rat was designated an international terrorist and was fair game wherever he was.

Iran is embarrassed that Israel could just walk right into Tehran and conduct a precision strike with a snap of their fingers. Iran needs to be careful when dealing with Israel. Israel's capabilities in the area, including being a deterrent to Iran, is the actual reason that the US continues to support Israel. Not because of lobby groups or donations.
I’m curious how the strike was delivered. It’s 2000 km from israel territory and Iran air defence is probably sophisticated enough to not allow reaper drones to hang out over Teheran…
 
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I’m curious how the strike was delivered. It’s 2000 km from israel territory and Iran air defence is probably sophisticated enough to not allow reaper drones to hang out over Teheran…
Probably Mossad pinpointing his location on the ground...IRan's air defence is nothing compared to Israel when it comes to advance warfare technology... Israel's existence relied on this to survive aggression from it's neighbors...
 

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I’m curious how the strike was delivered. It’s 2000 km from israel territory and Iran air defence is probably sophisticated enough to not allow reaper drones to hang out over Teheran…
I'm assuming that most of Iran's air defense is Russian made, we saw how deadly they were during the spring offensive to take Kharkiv.

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Who has condemned Israel for eliminating the leader of Hamas:

Russia, China, Turkey, Iran, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Qatar, Lebanon, Syria, Taliban regime in Afghanistan, Pakistan.

and Terb very own team hamas!
 
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richaceg

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I'm assuming that most of Iran's air defense is Russian made, we saw how deadly they were during the spring offensive to take Kharkiv.

The Palestinians must be cleansed from the Holy Land, The Book of Joshua ordains it. The religious parties in the Knesset command it, Bibi must obey. Every Palestinian man woman or child must be driven out or killed in order to restore Biblical Israel.
I think you're reading the Hamas doctrine...remove all jews anyone who dies for doing so will be a martyr....that include civilians whether they like it or not....
 
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