Biden …out!

WyattEarp

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Wow, you are trying to sugarcoat Trump's action to kill a very good bipartisan bill for the sake of using a talking point in the upcoming election. That's ok because with Kamala now taking the reigns she will clearly articulate this point like a baseball bat to the head of the orange man.
Kamala absolutely should. Will she gain traction with it or will she just remind people of her involvement with the border crisis? Totally, not her fault but an Achille's heel of the Biden Administration.
 

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Kamala absolutely should. Will she gain traction with it or will she just remind people of her involvement with the border crisis? Totally, not her fault but an Achille's heel of the Biden Administration.
I have faith in Kamala being able to articulate the point in a debate with Trump. Trump will be struggling because he loves to insult but certain insults aimed at a black woman will not come off as easily as they did with Hillary. The black vote should be locked up with even higher than the 2020 Biden numbers with Ms. Harris. SHe will hammer him on Abortion and Gay rights. It will be very entertaining.
 
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WyattEarp

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We can all cherry pick and Fox made great hey of using the Lantino gang banger angle. The righties ate it up like a good old pizza pie. LOL
If it was just a right wing thing, it wouldn't be such a major electoral problem for Democrats. Some things are just the way they are. Americans resoundingly want to shut the border. I can't change that. There isn't even a Canadian equivalent to our Southern border for Canadians to have experienced. No offense, but you yourself are only experiencing this through American cable news and media.

I learned a long time ago don't argue and fight with mass waves. If Biden was the true leader of the Administration, he would have dealt with the border more forcefully early in his term. I think the Biden of past was more pragmatic. Obama is not.....I repeat....a loose border, pro-migrant leader. He paid lip service to his more progressive party members.

Fox News is Fox News. I don't watch. However, you have to realize what message is being delivered to you by other media.

 

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If it was just a right wing thing, it wouldn't be such a major electoral problem for Democrats. Some things are just the way they are. Americans resoundingly want to shut the border. I can't change that. There isn't even a Canadian equivalent to our Southern border for Canadians to have experienced. No offense, but you yourself are only experiencing this through American cable news and media.

I learned a long time ago don't argue and fight with mass waves. If Biden was the true leader of the Administration, he would have dealt with the border more forcefully early in his term. I think the Biden of past was more pragmatic. Obama is not.....I repeat....a loose border, pro-migrant leader. He paid lip service to his more progressive party members.

Fox News is Fox News. I don't watch. However, you have to realize what message is being delivered to you by other media.

I wouldn't say Canada doesn't have border issues as well albeit not to the same scale as the US southern border. Biden/Trudeau just kept it very quiet so they wouldn't get called out for hypocrisy in wanting to stop illegal entries into the country via the US.

How — and why — Canada and the U.S. kept their border deal secret for a year
Irregular cross-border migration had become a top political issue in both countries — particularly in Quebec, home of the irregular crossing at Roxham Road. The Trudeau Liberals had been taking a drubbing over the issue in Quebec, a province critical to their re-election chances.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/safe-third-country-migrants-roxham-trudeau-biden-1.6792676
 
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I don't believe in polls but Harris has surged past crybaby felon. I still think they are made up by the media.

 

richaceg

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I have faith in Kamala being able to articulate the point in a debate with Trump. Trump will be struggling because he loves to insult but certain insults aimed at a black woman will not come off as easily as they did with Hillary. The black vote should be locked up with even higher than the 2020 Biden numbers with Ms. Harris. SHe will hammer him on Abortion and Gay rights. It will be very entertaining.
So uojre saying kamala way to victory is via the race bait


Not really her resume? Ooook.
 

Butler1000

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I can't get past the paywall, but I get the gist from the headline. Early paroles suspended so inmates could fight wildfires.

I doubt this action was directed solely by the AG. I would think this was coming from the Governor's office. From what I have read, Kamala Harris was a loyal foot soldier in the California Democratic apparatus. That's probably why California Democrats quickly rallied around her.

Did the article find some specific animus towards African-Americans?
I'd say the US justice system automatically has "specific animus" . And yes she will be a good foot soldier moving forward.

Which is the problem.
 

Butler1000

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I have faith in Kamala being able to articulate the point in a debate with Trump. Trump will be struggling because he loves to insult but certain insults aimed at a black woman will not come off as easily as they did with Hillary. The black vote should be locked up with even higher than the 2020 Biden numbers with Ms. Harris. SHe will hammer him on Abortion and Gay rights. It will be very entertaining.
First step Act. Pardons. And the ground work will be laid against her.
 

WyattEarp

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I'd say the US justice system automatically has "specific animus" . And yes she will be a good foot soldier moving forward.

Which is the problem.
Valhalla Kamala
As some might know, she will bring the party to the warrior's heaven.
 

Butler1000

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So what excuse are you going to use to shit all over Kamala every chance you get as you did with Biden?
Well first she actually has to lay out her positions. Historically she is all over the place. Changing by the day sometimes. So now she will have to be specific. And if she isn't then I will start there.

And "I'm not Trump" isn't going to be enough.
 

dirtydaveiii

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That's mixing two very different arguments. First, you say Trump spent more than Biden. Then you shift into how great the Biden programs were. So you went from something fairly objective to the subjective........a beautiful rainbow type argument.

When the Biden term is over and the budget for next year under his watch is accounted for, I think Biden will have spent more.
So your saying you have no aupoort of your argument other than a personal guess ?
 

WyattEarp

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So your saying you have no aupoort of your argument other than a personal guess ?
I'm not sure why you have this idea that I have to prove everything out. It's not my style to post articles from conservative policy centers and authors. You have posted articles from liberal policy centers sources as evidence.

Our current budget deficit is simply too high. There's nothing to prove. It's an opinion. It's also much higher than any Trump deficit pre-COVID.

We can argue all day about who owns COVID crisis spending. You have implied it's all Trump's. No matter how long after the crisis passed. There's going to be no agreement on facts.
 
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If it was just a right wing thing, it wouldn't be such a major electoral problem for Democrats. Some things are just the way they are. Americans resoundingly want to shut the border. I can't change that. There isn't even a Canadian equivalent to our Southern border for Canadians to have experienced. No offense, but you yourself are only experiencing this through American cable news and media.

I learned a long time ago don't argue and fight with mass waves. If Biden was the true leader of the Administration, he would have dealt with the border more forcefully early in his term. I think the Biden of past was more pragmatic. Obama is not.....I repeat....a loose border, pro-migrant leader. He paid lip service to his more progressive party members.

Fox News is Fox News. I don't watch. However, you have to realize what message is being delivered to you by other media.

no worries, trump will solve it all!
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