Better question franky...did you even graduate HS? Trump needs to win swing states...not black votes...and so does Kamala...Having the support of black folks is an added bonus that make Trump look good....you really think Kamala got the black votes in the bag? or you just hope she does?
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I'm still making the point the deficits are higher under Biden. Our current deficit is far too high. We will be close to a $2 trillion dollar deficit for 2024. This was after a lot of grumbling on this board that House Republicans pulled back spending.
Treasury debt actions are separate housekeeping apart from actual deficits. The Treasury borrowed emergency funds in 2020 to have $1 trillion cash on hand. It wasn't allocated to any spending initiatives. Liberal policy groups try to include that in their obfuscation of federal spending the last three and half years. The cash reserves were spent by the Biden Administration.
Liberal policy groups want to put all the emergency COVID spending into Trump's column. Let's just say we go with the logic that most of the 2021 spending still belongs to Trump. The Biden Administration and Congressional Dems passed a $1.9 trillion COVID spending package in March, 2021. The Democrats couldn't wait to add to the already massive COVID spending initiatives.
If you don't start with deficits, you are already beginning a shell game. I'm not sure what the liberal policy groups are doing is even creative enough to call creative accounting.
so where is your proof ? I have never read anything that shows what you have claimed. Trumps spending actually slowed during covid. If you just look at the national debt and not who spent it, Trump was still outspending Biden by a large margin. Trump spent the money in 2020 and Biden got the bill to pay. Not sure where you are getting your ideas from but its not from anything I have ever read.
I think some members said Kamala will win suburban women. No, she HAS to win suburban women. She HAS to completely dominate the black vote. The political calculus as of today has her defending more of the Democratic coalition than adding to it.
We're three years past COVID. Why are we running deficits of 7% of GDP?
Clearly, the Trump Administration spent a lot of money. The liberal policy groups need the COVID crisis and moving the numbers around to make their case that Biden didn't spend more. They are exploiting the crisis.
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This will be telling on how she impacted the black community....I don't believe all the rumors about how as an AG, she put a lot of black men in jail and kept them there even with minor offenses...if these are factual, this could bite her in the ass...the dems already lost a lot of support for their "open border policty" which the dems are now defending "it's out of her grasp" and the excuses are now in motion as to "she wasn't really the border czar"...it's a wait and see...it's during these times that the dirt starts to come out...
I think Kamala Harris throwing black men in jail was just political dirt. Do State AGs even have responsibility for minor offenses? Sounds like a county level matter. Besides, California is not know for a strict penal code.
What's your point Biden has resigned.
You are slowing the group now with no sense post like this Mitch.
I understand all the liberal policy centers take on crime coming in from over the border. It is good to hear that migrants don't commit crime at rates any higher than citizens. Truly, that's a good thing. Some migration is good for the U.S. and Canada as well.You jumped into a convo about crime stats and tried to blur the line with the fentanyl crapola. Since I'm a fair man and never an angry man, I'm going to play along and answer your question in the spirit of fair play
Did you know the flow commenced in 2014 and was in flowing nicely in 2019. THAT FUCKING BIDEN, oh wait, he wasn't President, THAT FUCKIN KAMALA, oh wait, she wasn't VP. hmmmm
Mexico's Role in the Deadly Rise of Fentanyl
This investigation sought to better situate Mexico’s role in the fentanyl trade.www.wilsoncenter.org
This is a very interesting article you should read
However, I think most people realize the more migration the more stress on our police, teachers and other government services. That also means objectively more crime. It's just simple math. More people = More crime.
Harris’ Office Tried to Keep Inmates Locked Up for Labor
Lawyers for California also argued that allowing certain inmates to be paroled early would deplete a program that allowed prisons to fight wildfires.
He still has to be President for 6 months.
The reality is citizens commit more crimes than migrants within the US but you don't want me to throw you stats on this, do you?
As for stress on the system, of course, if there are too many but then why did the Repugs listen to Trump and foil a bipartisan bill created by a Republican that would have helped the border turn many away? Why, just so Trump can jump on his soapbox and blame Biden and the Dems for the Border??
It's a great liberal talking point. If you were reading my post, I said more people equals more crime. It's a very simple concept. Most people see this from this point of view. Honestly, when a Latin American gang member murders a young woman do you think people think well as long as those committed killings by migrants stay within a comparable range for U.S. citizens? That's a hard sell and as I wrote this last sentence the fallacy of the talking point became more obvious.
Because any compromises in an election year are mostly disingenuous. You can hold the opinion the Biden Administration was doing the best job they possibly could do for three years. A voter rebellion didn't force the Biden team to come-to Jesus. Naw, that would be cynical of me to think otherwise.
As far as Trump, he is the leader of the party. If he doesn't want to do a deal, it doesn't get done. I don't know why some Congressmen got out front on this. I'm guessing a bit of ego and believing they could negotiate for the party. The leadership is so painfully obvious in a parliamentary system you should know how this works.
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I can't get past the paywall, but I get the gist from the headline. Early paroles suspended so inmates could fight wildfires.Harris’ Office Tried to Keep Inmates Locked Up for Labor
Lawyers for California also argued that allowing certain inmates to be paroled early would deplete a program that allowed prisons to fight wildfires.www.thedailybeast.com
I doubt this action was directed solely by the AG. I would think this was coming from the Governor's office. From what I have read, Kamala Harris was a loyal foot soldier in the California Democratic apparatus. That's probably why California Democrats quickly rallied around her.
Did the article find some specific animus towards African-Americans?
That's not true. If you look at the raw data for national debt from 2016-2020 you will see that trunp spent more. Bidens spending got jobs back and created new ones and fixed a lot of failiing infrastructure. Trumps spending did no such things. Trumps tariffs were a disaster and the only thing that actually brought some money in. He was spending
We can all cherry pick and Fox made great hey of using the Lantino gang banger angle. The righties ate it up like a good old pizza pie. LOL
Wow, you are trying to sugarcoat Trump's action to kill a very good bipartisan bill for the sake of using a talking point in the upcoming election. That's ok because with Kamala now taking the reigns she will clearly articulate this point like a baseball bat to the head of the orange man.
Then this might make you fill your diaper as full as a regular donnie day.
That's mixing two very different arguments. First, you say Trump spent more than Biden. Then you shift into how great the Biden programs were. So you went from something fairly objective to the subjective........a beautiful rainbow type argument.
When the Biden term is over and the budget for next year under his watch is accounted for, I think Biden will have spent more.
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