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Well it was a mediocre speech by Trump.

Yep, Biden is old, moves slowly and makes verbal gaffes, but he's not a pathological liar, a career scam-artist/fraudster and convicted felon.
Biden doesn't praise Vladimir Putin, he didn't try to steal the election. Biden didn't watch the Capitol being stormed by his supporters and do nothing for hours!!
And despite opposition from Rs in Congress, Biden got some great things done.

The infrastructure bill that many Rs who voted against it are praising repairing old bridges in their districts and so much more, the support for massive new chip plans, including two enormous Taiwan Semi fabs in Phoenix and in other cities, so don't need to get best chips from China,

Climate bill to accelerate alternative energy (now wind power is less expensive than oil/coal and our massive heat, tornadoes, hurricanes, floods from global warming. The bill to reduce drug costs includes only $35 for diabetes meds and more drugs to be controlled in later years.

His bipartisan border bill went far more toward R's demands. Still, Trump told the House not to take it up since he wanted to rant about refugees who are legally claiming status, not hiding or running, calling them illegals when they are following the legal process of seeking refugee status.

And reestablished trust with our allies, which Trump destroyed and put together the NATO coalition to aid Ukraine when Trump wants to let Putin do whatever he pleases since Putin and other dictators are Trump's heroes he wishes to be like.
 

jalimon

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If Biden speaks at the Democratic convention, I will wear thick bandages around both ears.

Then I can watch the poor guy transmitting the caption try to understand what Biden is saying. ;)
Yet Bidden’s team will do better than a lifetime crook. A trout would do better trump. A 💩 would do better than Trump.
 

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I liked JD Vance. Married a Indian woman. He'll fuck up Kamala in a debate better than Trump did with Biden.
 
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And despite opposition from Rs in Congress, Biden got some great things done.

The infrastructure bill that many Rs who voted against it are praising repairing old bridges in their districts and so much more, the support for massive new chip plans, including two enormous Taiwan Semi fabs in Phoenix and in other cities, so don't need to get best chips from China,

Climate bill to accelerate alternative energy (now wind power is less expensive than oil/coal and our massive heat, tornadoes, hurricanes, floods from global warming. The bill to reduce drug costs includes only $35 for diabetes meds and more drugs to be controlled in later years.

His bipartisan border bill went far more toward R's demands. Still, Trump told the House not to take it up since he wanted to rant about refugees who are legally claiming status, not hiding or running, calling them illegals when they are following the legal process of seeking refugee status.

And reestablished trust with our allies, which Trump destroyed and put together the NATO coalition to aid Ukraine when Trump wants to let Putin do whatever he pleases since Putin and other dictators are Trump's heroes he wishes to be like.
The problem for them now is the Democratic leadership has declared Biden to be unfit to run. And they can't take that back.
 

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I liked JD Vance. Married a Indian woman. He'll fuck up Kamala in a debate better than Trump did with Biden.
"Liked"?

Past tense, hmmm?

You dislike him now, it's as obvious as the venom nourishing your posts/being.
 
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dirtydaveiii

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Some of that is true. However, Biden has a well-known fifty year history of lies and exaggerations.

What I think is fun is how exaggerated Trump's exaggerations are. I sometimes feel like he's both mimicking and mocking politicians with his bombastic style.

I can't tell you how many times I hear a news reporter checking facts sailing by things a Democrat said. Last night, I was listening to a prominent news person start bashing Trump's last year in office. (Yes, it was a terrible year. It was a terrible year for the entire world.) She kind of stopped in her rant realizing she was exhibiting obvious bias. She then basically admitted that the COVID vaccine was developed under Trump's watch. Now I don't think he deserves credit for the vaccine, but he doesn't deserve to be disparaged for economic disruption in 2020.

The reality is Americans had four years of Trump and four years of Biden. No one is smarter than anyone else when it comes to determining which candidate is best for their personal situation. Americans know what Trump is about and how he will run the country.
Trumps handling of the economy was disastrous before covid. 8.2 trillion dollars of debt is the most by any president in 4 years and it's not even close. You can blame covid all you want but his spending actually slowed during covid. He was spending something like 115% of the GDP. Certainly not sound fiscal practice. What really stands out is he didn't have any wars to fund and didn't make any improvements to infrastructure, education or any pursuits. It was all tax cuts which America could not afford. Furthermore do you see how hypocritical you are by blaming covid for the economy tanking but also blaming Biden for inflation ?
 

dirtydaveiii

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funny to see so many of Trump's audience wearing a bandage on their ear.

Same people that refuse to put a mask because they are not sheep.
It's so ironic that Trump lied to get out of going to war then insults a captured POW who was fighting for America. Yet his cult paints him as a hero because he got shot at a rally where he is spewing lies to try to keep himself from going to jail and hid behind a woman when shots were fired because he stupidly raised his fist afterwards.
 

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I am more concerned about the provable lies he said - at least 20 at one count. He keeps repeating lies over and over and over, and some folks believe them. The worst inflation in history? 3% now vs 21% at peak in the 70s or 9.1% recent high. The strongest economy in the world per IMF report, leading the world but he says worst. No wars when Trump President... well at least 30 globally. and On and ON and ON. He is a racist criminal egomaniac, his entire life built on lies, fraud (fake Trump University for RE, fake charity shut down), and Tump organization guy in prison for tax fraud) and deceit. Not to mention morality and all his convicted criminal buddies, he wants to be part of his inner circle as president.

Praises dictators Orbon sp? N Korea good friend, and of course, Putin, who can do anything he wants with Ukraine. Biden restored US credibility at NATO meeting but allies worry about NATO and destroying alliances like Trump did before. Drill drill drill - Why. We have record high production and lots of leases available in key oil areas but no oil companies want them since already at maximum refinery production and leading the world in both gas and oil production.

Global warming is a hoax? Tell that to the millions in the US with the last few years of record heat, tornadoes, hurricanes, and floods due to record-breaking ocean temperatures as well as melting ice caps. Trump proposal, get rid of most alternative energy incentives. It's nonsensical stuff people believe in.

Oh yes the election he won when recounts, audits and many court cases show he LOST fair and square. Rudy lost law license and indicted for his election lies, the Canadian election machine company won a $500 million settlement for fake news against Fox. His many bankruptcies failure to pay bills, most likely tax fraud and HE is the Republican nominee that might be the US President? How sick we are in the US.
That's not even mentioning the failed insurrection and rape
 
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"Liked"?

Past tense, hmmm?

You dislike him now, it's obvious as the venom nourishing your posts/being.
Vances mom was a drug addiction whore who stole pills from her job as a nurse and threatened to kill vance when he was a child but the GOP paints her as a hero. Hunter was also an addict who slept with whores and never threatened to kill his kids and never stole from his job yet he is a villain.
 

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It's so ironic that Trump lied to get out of going to war then insults a captured POW who was fighting for America. Yet his cult paints him as a hero because he got shot at a rally where he is spewing lies to try to keep himself from going to jail and hid behind a woman when shots were fired because he stupidly raised his fist afterwards.
Nobody in commander bone spurs family has served in a few generations either.

 

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Vances mom was a drug addiction whore who stole pills from her job as a nurse and threatened to kill vance when he was a child but the GOP paints her as a hero. Hunter was also an addict who slept with whores and never threatened to kill his kids and never stole from his job yet he is a villain.
Hunter should be a terb hero, living the dream...
Whereas the MAGA hero?

 

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Probably about a half hour too long. Too much off the cuff filler. Started nicely talking about the assassination attempt. Should have gone straight to Biden Criticism then finished strong with the Vision Portion. A good 3 Act speech.

But as usual he went off on rambling bits. So I call it a no harm, no foul, but no improvement speech when it could have been something else.

So in other words, a bad episode of Celebrity Apprentice?

You and your sanctimonious concerns over policy etc. You're just another disaffected American Idol celebrity worshipper. All about thr performance of the performer.
 

SchlongConery

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Nah, I came in about five minutes in. Had it on while I played Diablo. I was curious about whether he would change his tone.

Nope. Still went way off script. Like I said, no change will come because of it

So that explains a lot! FBI profile completed.

Beautiful summer day and you are shut in, a grown man playing video games and watching Trump on TV, holding forth on the nuances of world affairs!

 

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Trumps handling of the economy was disastrous before covid. 8.2 trillion dollars of debt is the most by any president in 4 years and it's not even close. You can blame covid all you want but his spending actually slowed during covid. He was spending something like 115% of the GDP. Certainly not sound fiscal practice. What really stands out is he didn't have any wars to fund and didn't make any improvements to infrastructure, education or any pursuits. It was all tax cuts which America could not afford. Furthermore do you see how hypocritical you are by blaming covid for the economy tanking but also blaming Biden for inflation ?
I'm not sure exactly where you get your numbers. In any event, after this year Biden will have ran the largest deficit of any President.

If you and others use economics to make political declarations, they usually don't make sense in any context. Trump's declarations doesn't always make sense. Either does Biden.

As far as your concern that Biden is being unfairly blamed for inflation, some of it is unfair. I personally don't like a lot of his spending initiatives. The Inflation Reduction Act was a not so brilliant attempt at political manipulation. You can tell me all day that government spending does not fuel inflation. I find rhetoric like that just as crazy as anything Trump says.
 

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Sexual assault is so much more Bible because his victim didn't know if it was his mushroom like penis or his slimy little fingers he forced inside her. You have no shame
Civil conviction for sexual abuse is not a criminal conviction of rape....

You accuse him of lying yet you do the same thing.
 
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