The complexities of Sudan

[basketcase]

Its pathetic when you read someone's post and claim they said the exact opposite of what is there posted on this board.
Its also idiotic.
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Yet you keep doing it.

Quote where I said "Palestinians won't have the right to declare who can be citizens in a future Palestinian state". I can find plenty of quotes where you argue Israeli doesn't have the right to implement their own immigration laws though.


And I love the second part of your post where you argue against peace and say that the UN, Arab league, and Canada are wrong in supporting a Two State peace.

But I do appreciate that instead of faking my posts today, you're just spamming the same tweets.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yet you keep doing it.

Quote where I said "Palestinians won't have the right to declare who can be citizens in a future Palestinian state". I can find plenty of quotes where you argue Israeli doesn't have the right to implement their own immigration laws though.


And I love the second part of your post where you argue against peace and say that the UN, Arab league, and Canada are wrong in supporting a Two State peace.

But I do appreciate that instead of faking my posts today, you're just spamming the same tweets.

You declared it would be wrong if Palestinians could decide whether or not Jews were given citizenship in Palestine.

No, I'm saying you are antisemitic because despite all your claims, you believe there are certain regions which need to be Jew free..

I don't think any area needs to be 'Jew free', only that Palestinians should be given control of all of Palestine and all genocidal zionists should be taken to court at the Hague.

You must be excited for this ruling coming up in 5 days.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1811768617341522227

 

[shack]

If there were ever a two state solution Palestinians have that right to decide who can be a citizen.

Exactly like I say that Israel has the the right to decide who can be a citizen. And who has the right to vote. Yet you claim that I support apartheid.

Totally hypocritical.

 

[Frankfooter]

Exactly like I say that Israel has the the right to decide who can be a citizen. And who has the right to vote. Yet you claim that I support apartheid.

Totally hypocritical.

They chose apartheid, Shazi.
They should have chosen to settle for the two state solution instead of trying to colonize all of Palestine.
Israeli leaders warned you.

AVID BEN-GURION

“Israel … better rid itself of the territories and their Arab population as soon as possible. If it did not, Israel would soon become an apartheid state.” - a quote attributed to former Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion by Israeli journalist Hirsh Goodman, after the Six-Day War in 1967.

YITZHAK RABIN

“I don’t think it’s possible to contain over the long term, if we don’t want to get to apartheid, a million and a half [more] Arabs inside a Jewish state” - former Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin during a TV interview in 1976.

EHUD BARAK

"If this bloc of millions of Palestinians cannot vote, that will be an apartheid state." - remarks at the Herzliya security conference in 2010 from former Prime Minister Ehud Barak.

EHUD OLMERT

"If the day comes when the two-state solution collapses, and we face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights, then, as soon as that happens, the state of Israel is finished.” - former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert in an interview with the Israeli newspaper Haaretz in 2010

MICHAEL BEN-YAIR

“We established an apartheid regime in the occupied territories” - op-ed for the Israeli newspaper Haaretz in 2002 from former Israeli Attorney General Michael Ben-Yair.

YOSSI SARID

“What acts like apartheid, is run like apartheid and harasses like apartheid, is not a duck — it is apartheid” - op-ed from former Israeli Environment Minister Yossi Sarid for the Israeli newspaper Haaretz in 2008.

SHULAMIT ALONI

“The state of Israel practices its own, quite violent, form of apartheid with the native Palestinian population.” - an op-ed by former Israeli Education Minister Shulamit Aloni for the Israeli news website Ynet in 2006.

ALON LIEL

“In the situation that exists today, until a Palestinian state is created, we are actually one state. This joint state … is an apartheid state.” - remarks by former Israeli Ambassador to South Africa Alon liel to a Jerusalem conference in 2013.

ZEHAVA GALON

“The Supreme Court could have taken a braver decision and not relegated us to the level of an apartheid state.” - Zehava Galon, former chair of the Meretz party, in an interview with the Jerusalem Post in 2006.

MEIR DAGAN

“On the Palestinian matter, [Benjamin Netanyahu’s] policies are leading to either a binational state or an apartheid state.” - Meir Dagan, a former head of the Mossad spy agency, in a TV interview with Channel 2 in 2015.

I believe their warnings are a reality, but even if you disagree, it is nearly undeniable to say at the very least that Israel is hanging on thin ice at not being an apartheid state.

 

[shack]

They chose apartheid, Shazi/Fragrance.
They should have chosen to settle for the two state solution instead of trying to colonize all of Palestine.

I believe their warnings are a reality, but even if you disagree, it is nearly undeniable to say at the very least that Israel is hanging on thin ice at not being an apartheid state.

All citizens have equal rights, Geno.

 

[Frankfooter]

All citizens have equal rights, Geno.

And 2 million brown, indigenous Palestinians aren't given citizenship.
That's very, very apartheid.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1812952819558982097

 

[shack]

And 2 million brown, indigenous Palestinians aren't given citizenship.
That's very, very apartheid.

And two million brown Arab Israeli citizens have equal rights to all other Israeli citizens.

But thanks for agreeing that Palestinians are not citizens. Hence, you admit that Israel is NOT practicing apartheid. Every nation has the absolute right to decide on who they wish to bestow citizenship. This is no different. Case closed, Geno.

 

[Frankfooter]

And two million brown Arab Israeli citizens have equal rights to all other Israeli citizens.

But thanks for agreeing that Palestinians are not citizens. Hence, you admit that Israel is NOT practicing apartheid. Every nation has the absolute right to decide on who they wish to bestow citizenship. This is no different. Case closed, Geno.

Two million Palestinians living under Israeli rule for the last 75 years have zero rights, they aren't considered citizens living on their own land, instead are 'stateless refugees'. Fully half of the Palestinians under Israeli rule have not been given citizenship despite living on their ancestral land.

You keep defining Israeli apartheid in a clearer and clearer way, Shazi.

Maybe you should stick to just cheering on the genocide.
All 186,000 that zionism has killed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1813181427451580721

 

[Skoob]

Two million Palestinians living under Israeli rule for the last 75 years have zero rights, they aren't considered citizens living on their own land, instead are 'stateless refugees'. Fully half of the Palestinians under Israeli rule have not been given citizenship despite living on their ancestral land.

You keep defining Israeli apartheid in a clearer and clearer way, Shazi.

Maybe you should stick to just cheering on the genocide.
All 186,000 that zionism has killed.

Just viewing this thread for the first time and sure enough you are injecting Palestine again...like your 3rd post into a 25 page thread about Sudan and like clockwork...bam!

You can't help yourself can you? How many threads have you derailed? (that was a trick question...you derail every thread).

 

[Frankfooter]

Just viewing this thread for the first time and sure enough you are injecting Palestine again...like your 3rd post into a 25 page thread about Sudan and like clockwork...bam!

You can't help yourself can you? How many threads have you derailed? (that was a trick question...you derail every thread).

Look who's trolling today.

 

[Skoob]

Look who's trolling today.

Calling out the obvious is not trolling.
Hijacking every thread is trolling.
I just called you out on this one as more proof.

 

[shack]

Two million Palestinians living under Israeli rule for the last 75 years have zero rights, they aren't considered citizens living on their own land,

Well, maybe they shoulda' accepted the land in 1948. Maybe the shoulda' stopped firing rockets into Israel. Maybe shoulda' stopped their terror attacks.

Maybe they should take ownership of their decisions. Palestinians are living in the bed they made for themselves. They should appreciate what they have.

In the meantime, just like every other nation on the face of the earth, Israel has the absolute right to choose who can be a citizen. 2 million Arabs live in Israel as citizens and are doing just fine.

 

[shack]

You can't help yourself can you? How many threads have you derailed? (that was a trick question...you derail every thread).

I noticed the other day that there were zero threads about the war on the 1st page. It was quiet. The next day, just like clockwork, Geno resurrected at least 6 threads from the back pages to the front for no other reason than to stir up shit by spreading hate and lies. That is his purpose for having a membership. I wonder how much he has cost ownership with the enormous amount of bandwidth that he forces the board to use?

He's not happy when he can't make TERB a place for insults, lies, racism, lies, rancour and lies. He provides nothing of value to the board.

Geno, of what value are you to TERB? Why are you here? Do you think that you make it a better place? (This should be good for a laugh.)

 

[Frankfooter]

Well, maybe they shoulda' accepted the land in 1948.

You mean the deal that the Brits promised for their allegiance during WWII?
That the brits would hand them all of Palestine?

 

[Frankfooter]

I noticed the other day that there were zero threads about the war on the 1st page. It was quiet. The next day, just like clockwork, Geno resurrected at least 6 threads from the back pages to the front for no other reason than to stir up shit by spreading hate and lies. That is his purpose for having a membership. I wonder how much he has cost ownership with the enormous amount of bandwidth that he forces the board to use?

He's not happy when he can't make TERB a place for insults, lies, racism, lies, rancour and lies. He provides nothing of value to the board.

Geno, of what value are you to TERB? Why are you here? Do you think that you make it a better place? (This should be good for a laugh.)

Someone has to call out the racists and genocide supporters, along with the pedophile and rapist supporters, Shazi.
You don't want someone coming on here and thinking everyone backs pedophelia, rape and genocide, do you?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1807299909684494740

 

[shack]

You mean the deal that the Brits promised for their allegiance during WWII?
That the brits would hand them all of Palestine?

Stupid comment. I specifically said the deal of 1948.

 

[shack]

Someone has to call out the racists and genocide supporters, along with the pedophile and rapist supporters, Shazi/Fragrance.
You don't want someone coming on here and thinking everyone backs pedophelia, rape and genocide, do you?

We don't want a rabid anti-Semite, who supports the final solution, as our self-appointed immoral compass and who thinks that they can speak for us. Do you think that was TERB's reputation? Is your high moral standard the reason that you've been banned several times.

 

[basketcase]

You declared it would be wrong if Palestinians could decide whether or not Jews were given citizenship in Palestine.
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Bullshit. Show me where.

Considering you have repeatedly said Israel has no right to determine their own immigration policy, you are just showing your racist hypocrisy again.

I don't think any area needs to be 'Jew free', only that Palestinians should be given control of all of Palestine

Thanks for proving what I said in the other thread.

 

[basketcase]

You mean the deal that the Brits promised for their allegiance during WWII?
That the brits would hand them all of Palestine?

I've disproven this many times.

The Brits promised the Hashemites independence and even though the Hashemites came from what is now Western Saudi Arabia, the Brits gave them Iraq, Jordan, and Syria.

McMahon–Hussein correspondence - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Frankfooter]

Stupid comment. I specifically said the deal of 1948.

Its all the same, Shazi.
You can't move the goal posts.

The brits promised to return Palestine to Palestinians in exchange for allegiance during WWII.
Instead they gave half of Palestine to zionists to try to get rid of them.

You're still stuck in pre war colonial mentality, Shazi.
You haven't changed your attitudes in 80 years.

Why border lines drawn with a ruler in WW1 still rock the Middle East

Writer Tarek Osman traces many of the current problems in the Middle East to the secret Sykes-Picot agreement of 1916

www.bbc.com