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LCBO Store Employees On Strike!

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...Retail staff just stand and watch as people steal bottles. I have seen it many times and customers curse out the staff just watching theft after theft.
Those thefts are recorded on video, and the police watch them. Most liquor store thieves are locals, and known to the police. Cops arrest them on sight. That's safer than a retail employee playing cowboy.
 
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So according to a friend in the industry, it is Doug Ford who has locked them out. And apparently with him locking them out, they don’t get strike pay. I think he is hoping this will force them back to the table in a short time.
That's not how OPSEU describes it:

Ford’s dry summer begins: LCBO workers start historic strike – OPSEU SEFPO

More than 9,000 LCBO workers will be out on strike as of 12:01 midnight tonight after talks broke down at the bargaining table. OPSEU/SEFPO, the union representing the workers, has said all along that this round of bargaining is like no other.....

Throughout negotiations, the union proposed an alternative plan to Ford’s alcohol everywhere scheme and made it clear to Ford and the LCBO we’re ready to strike for it.

“We told Ford not to ruin everybody’s summer, but now he’s closed the Science Centre and forced a dry summer for Ontarians by refusing to offer a deal that would be good for LCBO workers and Ontario,” said Hornick....

Right now, 70% of LCBO workers are casual – they don’t have guaranteed hours, which means most won’t have access to benefits and there aren’t opportunities to move into permanent part-time and full-time positions. We want a better future for our members, the LCBO, and Ontario.
My point is if the Employer locked them out, they would have blatantly said that, wouldn't they?

Ford's plan to liberalize the sale of alcohol is an existential threat to OPSEU; they know it and that's why they drew this line in the sand.
 

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So according to a friend in the industry, it is Doug Ford who has locked them out. And apparently with him locking them out, they don’t get strike pay. I think he is hoping this will force them back to the table in a short time.
Bull shit what you heard, I know a lot of the store workers from my security days, have kept in touch with them, spoke to a few this morning, they are definitely getting strike pay, $50 for a 4 hour picket, there are 3 4 hr shifts per day.
 

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Bull shit what you heard, I know a lot of the store workers from my security days, have kept in touch with them, spoke to a few this morning, they are definitely getting strike pay, $50 for a 4 hour picket, there are 3 4 hr shifts per day.
Ok. Like I said. This is what I “heard”
 
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....... Retail staff just stand
and watch as people steal bottles. I have seen it many times and customers curse out the staff just watching theft after theft.
The staff are not allowed to confront shoplifters, LCBO policy, if they interfere with a shop lifting they will be fired. LCBO places staff safety above profits.

The amount of $$$ due to thievery is only about 3% of what the LCBO yearly net profit is.
 
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The thing is...technology is on the side of employers when it comes to negotiating long term agreements...this has happened once the self check out counters were installed in every grocery stores...Superstores and loblaws have about 8 cashier counters and only 3 cashiers working the counters...Imagine when LCBO goes full "online"...they only need to hire fulfillment staff let courier deal with delivery...no overhead, less risk of theft and more people drinking alcohol...
 

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I heard that the LCBO began moving product out of their warehouse into private warehouses well in advance, knowing that the Union would blockade the LCBO warehouse. If true, this could be viewed as an attempt by the LCBO to bust the Union.

I also read an account by a guy whose father is a raging alcoholic, and who will get the tremors if he goes a few hours without a drink. His father's tolerance for alcohol is so high, that beer and wine won't do the trick; he needs hard liquor. He is desperately trying to find a source of it; otherwise, his Dad is probably going to end up in the Hospital or dead.
If he is that desperate, he can get it across the border. USA or Quebec.
 
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If you are a wine drinker as I am, check out the Magnolia wine retail outlets. I go to one on Midland Ave. between Lawrence and Ellesmere. They have a large selection of low to medium to higher priced wines. There are other locations, one I believe is in the Keele and St. Clair area. They have been around for many years and also sell grapes to make your own wine. Many of these grapes are from various EU countries and South America. Since I drink a lot of wine (no spirits) a prefer the cheap and cheerful wines. Just bought 10 bottles for $97.00. Cheers everyone.
 
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The thing is...technology is on the side of employers when it comes to negotiating long term agreements...this has happened once the self check out counters were installed in every grocery stores...Superstores and loblaws have about 8 cashier counters and only 3 cashiers working the counters...Imagine when LCBO goes full "online"...they only need to hire fulfillment staff let courier deal with delivery...no overhead, less risk of theft and more people drinking alcohol...
Walmart wants to remove them because of thieves by passing products.

So will see.
 
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Only a dysfunctional economy would have in essence a monopoly organization that is beholden to a workforce that has the power to strike and shut down operations. Now we know why Ford was pushing for liquor sales in other outlets.
you got it backwards. First Doug announced the sales in corner stores ( including premixed spirits) and then the LCBO striked because they know they are going to be laid off eventually. But I guess you prefer clerks getting minimum wage to sell you booze and who cares about the increase in robberies, under age drinking and drunk driving that this will produce?
 

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I heard that the LCBO began moving product out of their warehouse into private warehouses well in advance, knowing that the Union would blockade the LCBO warehouse. If true, this could be viewed as an attempt by the LCBO to bust the Union.

I also read an account by a guy whose father is a raging alcoholic, and who will get the tremors if he goes a few hours without a drink. His father's tolerance for alcohol is so high, that beer and wine won't do the trick; he needs hard liquor. He is desperately trying to find a source of it; otherwise, his Dad is probably going to end up in the Hospital or dead.
I don't think the province is legally or morally responsible for someone who didn't deal appropriately with a substance dependence issue in a timely, effective fashion.

If they were, then cops wouldn't be able to arrest fentanyl dealers.
 
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