SCREAMS BEFORE SILENCE

[Frankfooter]

That's a lie. You've never publicly stated that you want anyone to die.

Your post is typical Shazi propaganda, its been corrected.
Bring on the UN, the ICC, the ICJ and charge both sides.
Stop the genocide, stop the occupation and stop apartheid.

Give Palestinians full equal rights including the Right of Return and the right to vote.

This is what zionism means to the world.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1805542354595577894

 

[Frankfooter]

That's a bald-faced lie. bc provided the quote from the UN. That's the same UN that you claim we need to obey.

No, Shazi, its the truth.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1806057060007653471

 

[Frankfooter]

...that if they wanted their own state, like they were giving Israel, they should accept the offer. There was no recognized independent state of Palestine. As such, nothing was taken from the Arabs. The UN recognized Israel as a legitimate state.

Why?
The UK promised to return all of Palestine in return for them supporting the UK during WWII.

 

[Klatuu]

History.

Zionist myths. Poorly educated.

 

[shack]

Why?
The UK promised to return all of Palestine in return for them supporting the UK during WWII.

And if the UK reneged (not that I believe any of your claims), that's Israel's fault? Israel controls the US and the UK? LOL

The Arabs turned down an opportunity for self-determination. That's the same self-determination that they now lack and you use as justification for the terror attack of Oct.7. One bad decision after another is the reason for their current troubles. I guess, in a way, that was self-determination.

 

[shack]

Poorly educated.

Maybe you can take remedial classes.

 

[Frankfooter]

And if the UK reneged (not that I believe any of your claims), that's Israel's fault? Israel controls the US and the UK? LOL

The Arabs turned down an opportunity for self-determination. That's the same self-determination that they now lack and you use as justification for the terror attack of Oct.7. One bad decision after another is the reason for their current troubles. I guess, in a way, that was self-determination.

'Turned down an opportunity'

Really, someone promises you to return your land and then says you can only have half of it and you think that's an opportunity.
Shazi, you're really messed up.

So the self determination of Palestinians to try to return that land on Oct 7 through force is what you really want for Palestinians?
The opportunity to reclaim their land through self determination?

Shazi, you just switched teams.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1806099896048418879

 

[basketcase]

The US put that in the resolution ...

As usual, the UN disagrees with you.
1. Welcomes the new ceasefire proposal announced on May 31, which Israel accepted, calls upon Hamas to also accept it, and urges both parties to fully implement its terms without delay and without condition;

Hamas rejected it and instead sent new, harder demands. Your response? Make excuses for hamas once again rejecting the ceasefire you've pretended to demand for months.

 

[basketcase]

Because Israel won't allow that to happen...

Why is it you think it okay to completely ignore what Palestinians want while pretending to speak for them.


But yes, Israel refuses to allow a Palestinians only state from the River to the Sea that 75% of Palestinians want. Most people would be against ethnic cleansing of 10 million Jews, half of whom are indigenous to the reason.

How stupid is it to argue that people immigrating to an established state like Canada, using immigration laws, are settlers?

It's just as stupid as claiming jews immigrating under established Ottoman and establish Mandate Palestine as settlers. You are just an elitist clown in claiming that the Ottomans were incapable of running their country or that Mandate Palestine didn't have immigration laws.

You chose to come to a colonial state based on the subjugation and continued repression of indigenous people which make you more of a problem than me as I had no choice about being born here. Unlike you and your inability to reconcile your self-image with the fact you benefit from the colonization of Canada, I realize we both benefit from Canada's colonial existence.

Europeans had NO BUSINESS colonizing Canada but since you chose to be part of the colonizing, you pretend that somehow Canada is legitimate. In reality, Canada and Israel are legitimate. They exist because they are there and their/our existence is based on the preference of the people living there. There should be a Palestinian state but based on history and international relations, that can only happen by negotiations or by the military destruction of Israel's population. The lack of a Palestinian state is significantly (though not entirely) the fault of Palestinian leaders repeatedly rejecting any kind of coexistence.

Oh is it because Judaism started in Israel? Well so did Christianity and Islam.

I've always argued that Israelis are entitled to be there because they are there, just like Palestinians. But your 'colonial' claims are refuted by the continual Jewish presence for millennia.

And you would have to be a moron to believe Islam started in Israel/Palestine.

Hamas and PA dont say it. "From the river to the sea Palestine will be free" means that Palestinians one day will not live under apartheid and oppression.

And another case of you telling Palestinians what they say.

Hamas:
The Land of Palestine
2. Palestine, which extends from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras al-Naqurah in the north to Umm al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit. It is the land and the home of the Palestinian people. The expulsion and banishment of the Palestinian people from their land and the establishment of the Zionist entity therein do not annul the right of the Palestinian people to their entire land and do not entrench any rights therein for the usurping Zionist entity.

3. Palestine is an Arab Islamic land. It is a blessed sacred land that has a special place in the heart of every Arab and every Muslim.


The PA
Article 4

1. Islam is the official religion in Palestine. Respect for the sanctity of all other divine religions shall be maintained.
2. The principles of Islamic Shari’a shall be a principal source of legislation.
3. Arabic shall be the official language.

The Fatah logo


Hamas logo

 

[basketcase]

I hope you were ...

You are the one who keeps denying Palestinian choices, Palestinian opinion, and Palestinian self-determination, instead pretending they are incapable of making their own choices or being responsible for their own actions.

 

[basketcase]

The US put that in the resolution yet Israel refuses to agree to it, while Hamas already said they will abide the resolution.
...

Wow your claims are dumb.

1) It's dumb that you think Israel needs to implement a ceasefire that Hamas rejected and,

2) You desperately need to lie about what Hamas says. Despite the UNSC demanding "without condition" Hamas responded by sending a different proposal. Any google search has Hamas rejecting a half dozen ceasefire deals but instead of actually following up on your claimed demands for a ceasefire, you continue to make excuse for Hamas.

 

[basketcase]

Fiction

Did you learn your history in Florida schools?

 

[basketcase]

...
Bring on the UN, the ICC, the ICJ ...

Except for when they make demands of Hamas.

The UN demanded Hamas accept the Israeli ceasefire deal. Instead they still pretend to want negotiation.
The UN, ICC, and ICJ demanded months ago that Hamas "immediately and unconditionally" release their hostages. You've kept saying they need to keep them as bargaining chips.

 

[basketcase]

Why?
The UK promised to return all of Palestine in return for them supporting the UK during WWII.

...

If you actually read the history, during WW1, the UK promised the Hashemite leader Hussein Bin Ali, the entirety of Israel as it is today in return for his alliance against the Ottomans. They subsequently reneged by issuing the Balfour declaration.
...

You really need to read some books because the Brits NEVER promised a Palestinian state. in fact the only mention they made that can be interpreted as relating to Palestine was a promise to protect holy sites which also applied to Medina and mecca.

They promised vague Arab independence to their Hashemite allies. The Brits followed through and gave them Syria, Jordan, and Iraq and gave independence to Saudi Arabia, Oman, and Yemen (except Aden which they kept as a port). They didn't deliver everything they implied but they gave the Hashemites 98% of the land they wanted, going so far as supplying the military for Jordan and Iraq including officers. The Brits also promised a Jewish homeland. Again, they didn't deliver everything they implied but they gave most of it. Neither side got everything they wanted but the Brits felt they did enough to validate both deals.

You could try reading the Husain-McMahon letters but we know you would rather just spam us with tweets from clueless idiots because those letters made clear that they Brits didn't include the Mediterranean coast because those lands were to ethnically mixed to be considered Arab.


p.s. The Hashemites are not indigenous to Palestine or even Jordan here they rule now. They were the Hedjaz, only 1000 km from Jerusalem (at least until they lost a war to Saud).

 

[Frankfooter]

As usual, the UN disagrees with you.
urges both parties to fully implement its terms without delay and without condition;

You are such a shitty hasbara troll.
Your quote says both sides are supposed to implement the ceaefire.
Instead Israel just bombed more refugees living in tents.

zionists are like nazis

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1806342942023393382

 

[shack]

If you actually read the history, during WW1, the UK promised the Hashemite leader Hussein Bin Ali, the entirety of Israel as it is today in return for his alliance against the Ottomans. They subsequently reneged by issuing the Balfour declaration.

How is that Israel's fault?

 

[shack]

'Turned down an opportunity'

Yes. The Palestinians were offered plenty of land with which to form a sovereign homeland. They chose war instead. That was just as stupid as the Oct.7 terror attack.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yes. The Palestinians were offered plenty of land with which to form a sovereign homeland. They chose war instead. That was just as stupid as the Oct.7 terror attack.

No, Shazi, they were offered half of their homeland while the rest was promised to a foreign group of terrorists intent on taking the rest.
Congratulations on turning the word 'Palestinian' into the new 'N' word.

Your work on turning zionism into the KKK or the new nazis is finally paying off.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1806600582276252099

 

[shack]

Frank did not say it was Israel's fault. Frank said the Arabs did not have to accept the partition back in 1948, because the formation of Israel itself was illegitimate because even the colonial power (UK) had actually promised the land to the Hashemites before they even promised the land to the Zionists. He is right about that.

It was a stupid choice by the Palis. They had more than enough land for their own use. They were offered more land than the Israelis. Instead those war and continue to do so. And once again, if the UK reneged on the deal, that is not Israel's fault.

More and more of their people die, more and more land is lost to Israel, more and more the anti-Semites whine. All of the Palis actions have had consequences.

Your arguments are without merit. They are no more than the talk of losers.

 

[shack]

Hindsight is 20-20.

So they were wrong in1948

Back in 1948, However, they were not actually wrong.

So, they were right in1948.

Is that like voting rights don't mean voting rights. You're on a roll.