'Anxious about the future': Some job seekers in the Greater Toronto Area struggling to find work...

southpaw

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Immigration, is consensual influx of people. Influx of immigrants on the other hand, limited or unlimited, grows economies.
If you want a vision of the future, picture trying to explain "per capita" to Kautilya, endlessly.
 
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GDP per capita will also grow with a growing economy as it did with Canada.
Show me where this is happening today. Where mass immigration is increasing Real GDP per capita.

Not in the past, when Canada was a new country. In the present, when it is a mature economy.
 

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Canada's population in 1970 was 20M. GDP of 100B and a per capita GDP of 4K.

Today it is 40M, GDP of ~2.1T, with a per capita of ~53K.

Proportion of foreign born people in Canada in 1970, was ~3.5%. Today its 20 to 25%.

Generally it is macro economics 101. Higher the population, higher the GDP and consequently GDP per capita. Without population growth, the economy will stagnate and infact deteriorate. Japan is a great example of this.
Read what I asked for. Real GDP per capita, not nominal. In the present, not in the past
 
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The crux of your argument is that population increase works negatively to impact the economy. So you need the past to compare.

And its pretty much the same story. It was around 8-9K in 1970, in current prices, and 53K in 2023.

Whichever way you slice and dice it, it is macro economics 101. Higher your population, better your economy.

As I mentioned Japan is a very real example of the opposite.
Yes they have a population problem but believe me, Japan wouldn’t want the clowns Canada and the US are letting in. I was just there, it’s beautiful. I hope it stays like that and they can grow their base population again without diluting it.
 
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Whichever way you slice and dice it, it is macro economics 101. Higher your population, better your economy.
Did you ever take macro economics 101?

If this is true, the countries with the largest populations should have the best GDP per capita. Do they?

The countries with the fastest growing populations should have the fastest growing economies. Do they?
 
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Did you ever take macro economics 101?

If this is true, the countries with the largest populations should have the best GDP per capita. Do they?

The countries with the fastest growing populations should have the fastest growing economies. Do they?
Kautilya is letting his liberal mind take over. You can’t just increase the population and make a better country. GDP per capita needs to increase. The more the average person earns the better off the country is. We need better immigration policies, mass deportations, and better schools to get us where we need to be. Not blindly increasing the population.
 

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You can’t just increase the population and make a better country. GDP per capita needs to increase.
He's saying the second statement follows from the first. By default.

I think he took magic economics, not macro economics.
 

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Kautilya is letting his liberal mind take over. You can’t just increase the population and make a better country. GDP per capita needs to increase. The more the average person earns the better off the country is. We need better immigration policies, mass deportations, and better schools to get us where we need to be. Not blindly increasing the population.
We need construction worker of all kinds, welder, mecanics, doctors, nurses,... all of which current immigrants lacks massively :( Or are not willing to retrain to our standard.
 

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How many arguments have you presented where you actually presented stats, research or facts to back your statements?
Hey Pseudo, is StatCan good enough? Now you don't even have to pretend to be a student. You can pretend to be the spouse or partner of someone pretending to be a student. And you'll both get PR!

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/36-28-0001/2024006/article/00001-eng.htm

Across successive arrival cohorts, the transition rate has increased. For example, five years after obtaining the first work permit, 27% of TFWs in the 2006-to-2010 cohort made the transition, and this rate increased to 34% for the 2011-to-2015 cohort. Similarly, two years after obtaining the first work permit, the transition rate rose from 12% for the 2011-to-2015 cohort to 23% for the 2016-to-2020 cohort...
The overall trend mentioned above was primarily influenced by the PGWP Program, spouses or common-law partners of skilled workers, and spouses or common-law partners of students, all of whom followed a similar trend. Their shares among work permit holders transitioning to PR increased significantly, from 29% in the 2006-to-2010 cohort to 73% in the 2016-to-2020 cohort...
In summary, since the mid-2000s, proportionately more individuals holding work permits for work purposes have transitioned to PR in Canada.
 
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Kautilya is letting his liberal mind take over. You can’t just increase the population and make a better country. GDP per capita needs to increase. The more the average person earns the better off the country is. We need better immigration policies, mass deportations, and better schools to get us where we need to be. Not blindly increasing the population.
Lets start the deportation of criminals and the lazy fucks who leach off our system.
 
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Lets start the deportation of criminals and the lazy fucks who leach off our system.
The stats out of the UK reported that about 15% of the third world invaders they let in have any tangible skill. How in any construct is that a good plan? We`re probably the same, solid plan Trudeau.
 

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The stats out of the UK reported that about 15% of the third world invaders they let in have any tangible skill. How in any construct is that a good plan? We`re probably the same, solid plan Trudeau.
Most are now either the few international students let in or the large number of temporary foreign workers.
 
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