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jalimon

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Going by some of the Lefty posters here on Terb I'd say most left-wingers are just as hateful as some right-wingers, if not more so
I think the difference is that we lefties understand that a huge change of our paradigm in our society is needed.

Boomers made a fortune. They were able to put 4 kids to university, get a big house, a small shack for fishing, 2 cars... all out of a single job selling tv or aspirators... Their properties made them instant millionaires.

Yet these fuckers are still leading political party!!! what the fuck! They are out of it.

My niece just quit a teaching job in montreal to accept one 3 hours away because a teaching job cannot make you live in montreal.

When a society cannot afford to make it decent for ordinary people it will crumble. Violence will settle and everyone will complain what the fuck why...

Blame me as a leftist all you want. If you don't understand this I dont care.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Right wingers hate people who are different than them and changing cultural values. Left wingers justifiably hate, that right wing hatred.
2 things:

1. When you hate back you become a hater as well. So you're no better.
2. You stereotype all right-wingers as the same. Thats the same as saying all blacks are criminals ,or all east-Indians are dirty and smelly
 

Knuckle Ball

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2 things:

1. When you hate back you become a hater as well. So you're no better.
In WWII, I hate what the Nazis did. I don’t think that makes me a hater who is just as bad as the Nazis.

2. You stereotype all right-wingers as the same. Thats the same as saying all blacks are criminals ,or all east-Indians are dirty and smelly
People don’t choose their skin colour. Aligning oneself with a fascist political organization is a choice.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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1. I hate Hitler. Does that make me a "hater"? Not all hate is bad. Some are justified
I you want to hate Hitler thats fine, but when you hate all Germans for what Hitler did then that would make you a bigot

2. Well it is true that there are left wingers on this very board who say hateful things against, Palestinians or Muslims for example. That would infact make them haters. But the majority of the time the hate towards people and culture, are observed to come from the right
This is a bigoted statement, because you didnt say some on the Right, you said the Right period
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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People don’t choose their skin colour. Aligning oneself with a fascist political organization is a choice
Which fascist political organization are you referring to??
 

Knuckle Ball

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Thats what I thought. So basically you're saying half the US population is fascist, which is a bigoted statement to make
I also added any Canadian politician who supports the Klown Konvoy to my earlier post.

And yes…it is entirely accurate to say that about half the American population supports fascism. That is an objectively true statement. I will never understand why you guys don’t just step up and own your pov.

At least guys like Steve Bannon and Seb Gorky step up and make no apologies for what they have to say. I can almost respect that in a weird kinda way.

It’s this other constant passive-aggressive doing fascist things and supporting fascist talking points while claiming not to be a fascist that has become a tediously loathsome part of today’s discourse. It is what it is.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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You said when you hate back you are a hater. I am saying hate is sometimes justified and left wingers usually hate for the right reasons
The KKK justifies their hatred for blacks because in their opinion they commit so much crime.
So are you saying the KKK is therefore justified in their hatred as well??

I didn't say some right wingers, because it is most right wingers that subscribe to such ideals
Thats still a bigoted statement

Its not a bigoted statement to make. The MAGA leader openly says hateful things about immigrants, muslims etc and whether it is 10% of the country, or 50%, they are at the end of the day cheering for it and showing agreement. So hatred for MAGA is justified. Hatred displayed by the MAGA crowd on the other hand is unwarranted and therefore hateful
Trump said he wants to limit immigration from specific muslim countries because they pose a security risk.
He also said Mexicans send their rapists because its true: https://www.newsmax.com/danperkins/border-immigration-human-trafficking/2018/06/26/id/868406/

NOTE: he didnt say all Mexicans are rapists because he followed it up by saying "I'm sure some are good people"
 

Phil C. McNasty

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I also added any Canadian politician who supports the Klown Konvoy to my earlier post.

And yes…it is entirely accurate to say that about half the American population supports fascism. That is an objectively true statement. I will never understand why you guys don’t just step up and own your pov
Because there's nothing to own up to.

I believe in strong borders, but I would never want to close them off for all immigrants.
I also support curtailing muslim immigration from countries that are hotbeds for terrorism, but I would never be against all immigration from all muslim countries.

These are the exact same thing Trump espouses to
 
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