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The 40,000 people in Canada who are making more than $250,000 from capital gains a year are definitely not average canadians.
It will only affect 40,000 Canadians? Is that was Justin told you? And you believed him?

In reality, it will affect many more Canadians than what JT and CF are telling you. In other words, they're lying. This certainly isn't the way for the Liberal to secure votes in the next election. Keep digging that hole JT.

3 big questions about how the capital gains tax increase affects you
Ottawa says only a small percentage of taxpayers will be subject to the changes. In reality, a much wider spectrum of Canadians will be impacted.

The federal government’s decision to increase the capital gains inclusion rate to 66.7 per cent from 50 per cent on amounts above $250,000 for individuals and on all gains for corporations has caused a lot of angst amongst business owners, professionals, investors and property owners, to name just a few.

But confusion still reigns about who these changes will affect and how. Neil Kumar, an adviser and portfolio manager at Richardson Wealth, answers three big questions about the increase.

Who will be most affected?

“The federal government cites figures indicating that only a small percentage of taxpayers will be subject to the increased capital gains inclusion rate. In reality, a much wider spectrum of Canadians will be impacted by the changes, ranging from professionals and small-business owners/entrepreneurs to those who may own a second property.

“In general, any Canadian who has a trust or incorporated business (holding company) will see a significant increase in their taxes. Working professionals who are allowed to incorporate (for example, accountants, lawyers, doctors and realtors) and small-business owners will see the inclusion rate on capital gains rise by 33 per cent after June 25.

“In terms of numbers, according to the Government of Canada’s own stats, there were 1.19 million small-business owners as of December 2022 and these business owners employed roughly 46.8 per cent of the total private labour force. In addition to small-business owners, there are more than 210,000 accountants, 136,000 lawyers, 96,000 physicians and 160,000 realtors in Canada, many of whom have a holding company to invest their excess savings.

“In other words, the government’s figure of 0.13 per cent is grossly low. Individuals who invest through a holding company will also see a decrease in the amount going to their capital dividend account from 50 cents on each dollar of realized gains to 33 cents on each dollar of gains.

“Another group of Canadians who will be negatively impacted are real estate investors. While the sale of primary residences will remain excluded from capital gains tax, individual Canadians who own an investment property or recreational property will face a tax hit on the sale of a property as the capital gains inclusion rate will increase by 33 per cent for capital gains exceeding $250,000 (for professionals who own real estate in an incorporated business, the hit will be from the first dollar of capital gain).

“Once again, the government’s estimate about the number of impacted individuals is misleading. Approximately 4.4 million Canadians own an investment property, with one-third of them owning two or more properties, according to a Royal LePage survey in May 2023. Moreover, 11 per cent of Canadians own a cottage, with an equal number looking to buy one, according to a ReMax poll in 2023.”

How will it affect long-term investment strategies?

“Some initial thoughts, with the caveat that everyone should seek appropriate tax advice for their unique situation:
  • Canada may be less attractive to invest in. We still need to digest how the increase in the capital gains inclusion rate will impact businesses. In general, higher taxes cause investments to be less profitable and might be viewed as a “disinvestment” incentive. This might cause capital to flow to jurisdictions with more favourable tax treatment, or simply cause global investors to avoid Canada.
  • While the budget deficits are not getting bigger, we will need to see if increased government spending causes an increase in inflation.
  • Some people with a shorter-term investment time horizon may choose to “crystallize” unrealized gains before the June 25 deadline.
  • Less portfolio turnover (that is, trading activity).
  • Life insurance may become a more attractive option to offset higher taxes upon death.”

How could it affect wealth and tax planning?

“We aren’t allowed to provide specific tax advice to our clients, but we actively work with their accountants to address tax issues. It seems like tax accountants are still formulating their own stance or opinion on the changes. So far, we have received varying opinions from the trusted accountants we know and work with, which seems reasonable given that each client is unique.

“These opinions range from advising their clients to crystallize as much capital gains as possible before the June deadline to doing nothing.

“The advice needs to be tailored to each client with an understanding of their current financial position, future goals and the likelihood of certain financial events happening.

“To illustrate this, let’s assume Client A is a 45-year-old entrepreneur who invests their surplus cash in their holding company. They have purchased shares in companies that have long-term growth potential and don’t anticipate selling their shares for the next 10 years.

“In this case, an accountant might advise them not to crystallize any current gains since the growth on the taxes saved today might be greater than the incremental tax hit in the future. In contrast, if the time horizon was only two years, the accountant might suggest crystallizing gains now.”


https://financialpost.com/investing/how-capital-gains-tax-increase-affects-you
 

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The federal government’s decision to increase the capital gains inclusion rate to 66.7 per cent from 50 per cent on amounts above $250,000 for individuals and on all gains for corporations has caused a lot of angst amongst business owners, professionals, investors and property owners, to name just a few.
How many people do you think are making more than $250,000 a year from capital gains?

Remember, primary residencies are left out, so this is only on people who are buying and selling property for profit regularly.
 

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How many people do you think are making more than $250,000 a year from capital gains?

Remember, primary residencies are left out, so this is only on people who are buying and selling property for profit regularly.
Not just on property...assets.

So someone who held stock or property as their retirement investment now has to hand over more of it when they sell it and have less when they retire after having saved their whole working lives for that.

Robbery.

Thank god these Liberal thieves will be gone soon and hopefully this scheme is rolled back.
 

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If Trudeau goes down then all of these other Liberal Ministers will go down with him. It makes no sense for them to publicly split with JT; their fate is tied to his whether they like it or not…plus they’d probably be kicked out of the party if they started trashing JT in the press.

What they say behind closed doors may be entirely different but there’s no way to know. We’ll see..
 

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If Trudeau goes down then all of these other Liberal Ministers will go down with him. It makes no sense for them to publicly split with JT; their fate is tied to his whether they like it or not…plus they’d probably be kicked out of the party if they started trashing JT in the press.

What they say behind closed doors may be entirely different but there’s no way to know. We’ll see..
I'm sure they are already lining up their exit strategy, board positions, legal firms and consulting/lobbying gigs for the inevitable. Unless he resigns they will all go down with the ship unless a lucrative offer shows up by the New Year.
 
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Not just on property...assets.

So someone who held stock or property as their retirement investment now has to hand over more of it when they sell it and have less when they retire after having saved their whole working lives for that.

Robbery.

Thank god these Liberal thieves will be gone soon and hopefully this scheme is rolled back.
You really think someone who can sell $250,000 a year in assets, either stocks or property, can't afford to pay taxes on those assets above $250,000?
You think that's unfair while someone like you working as a security guard would have to pay tax on everything they make?
 

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If Trudeau goes down then all of these other Liberal Ministers will go down with him. It makes no sense for them to publicly split with JT; their fate is tied to his whether they like it or not…plus they’d probably be kicked out of the party if they started trashing JT in the press.

What they say behind closed doors may be entirely different but there’s no way to know. We’ll see..
anyone who willing choose / supported the corrupt moron Justin Trudeau as the leader of their party is void of integrity, lacks the ability to judge character and is unworthy of the electorates support
never put an idiot in charge

They should have turfed him over the SNC scandal
they choose to retain power and look the other way as scandal after scandal and incompetence piled up

They have forever shamed the once proud Liberal Party of Canada and have caused much damage to Canada

the next federal election can not arrive soon enough
 

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anyone who willing choose / supported the corrupt moron Justin Trudeau as the leader of their party is void of integrity, lacks the ability to judge character and is unworthy of the electorates support
never put an idiot in charge

They should have turfed him over the SNC scandal
they choose to retain power and look the other way as scandal after scandal and incompetence piled up

They have forever shamed the once proud Liberal Party of Canada and have caused much damage to Canada

the next federal election can not arrive soon enough
He won 3 elections and could still pull off a fourth. That is a significant accomplishment, especially in today’s political climate.

Clearly, the majority of Canadians were not as upset about JT’s mistakes/scandals as you would have liked them to be.

Unfortunately, the choice seems to have come down to a choice between JT vs an ally of the KKKonvoy. ☹
 
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I'm sure they are already lining up their exit strategy, board positions, legal firms and consulting/lobbying gigs for the inevitable. Unless he resigns they will all go down with the ship unless a lucrative offer shows up by the New Year.
We’ll see…all these ministers and MP’s sound supportive now but who knows? This could wind up being like the dreaded Vote of Confidence that an ownership group gives a GM shortly before they unceremoniously show him the door…There are all kinds of ways of getting rid of someone in politics; I wouldn’t trust any of these MF’rs…LOL
 

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How many people do you think are making more than $250,000 a year from capital gains?

Remember, primary residencies are left out, so this is only on people who are buying and selling property for profit regularly.
My God, did you even read the article? It's not only people who are buying and selling property for profit yearly. Again, you need to stop listening to Justin.

The federal government’s decision to increase the capital gains inclusion rate to 66.7 per cent from 50 per cent on amounts above $250,000 for individuals and on all gains for corporations has caused a lot of angst amongst business owners, professionals, investors and property owners, to name just a few. Any Canadian who has a trust or incorporated business (holding company) will see a significant increase in their taxes. Working professionals who are allowed to incorporate, for example, accountants, lawyers, doctors, realtors etc. In other words, for corporations, all capital gains are now subject to the two-thirds inclusion rate.

That's a huge difference, which is why so many people are upset with these new changes.
 
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My God, did you even read the article? It's not only people who are buying and selling property for profit yearly.

The federal government’s decision to increase the capital gains inclusion rate to 66.7 per cent from 50 per cent on amounts above $250,000 for individuals and on all gains for corporations has caused a lot of angst amongst business owners, professionals, investors and property owners, to name just a few. Any Canadian who has a trust or incorporated business (holding company) will see a significant increase in their taxes. Working professionals who are allowed to incorporate, for example, accountants, lawyers, doctors, realtors etc.
I see why you are so outraged.
Imagine how hard done it is to be making $250,000 a year tax free and then having to pay 16.7% more tax on the money you make above $250,000.
How is someone supposed to afford three homes, winter in Florida and a new Tesla on that kind of money.
 

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meh, Seinfeld theory ... people got tired Harper after many years even though he didn't do a terrible job towards the end of his tenure.

Liberals will be back eventually; it's a cycle. Sean Fraser will be the next leader.

Freeland ? lol , she's hated as much as Trudeau, as his right-hand man (oops, woman).

Champagne? Doesnt have the IT factor; plus they've learned from Stephanie Dion.

Carney? No, too soon. He'll need to earn his time; otherwise, they'll just play the Ignatieff card.

Frank Baylis? Who?
 
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He won 3 elections and could still pull off a fourth. That is a significant accomplishment, especially in today’s political climate.
a sad reflection of the Canadian electorate for selected a corrupt moron ... because he has a famous last name /

Clearly, the majority of Canadians were not as upset about JT’s mistakes/scandals as you would have liked them to be.
the corrupt moron has increased the cost of living for the electorate.
that is political suicide
he is done

Unfortunately, the choice seems to have come down to a choice between JT vs an ally of the KKKonvoy. ☹
no the unfortunate part is the damage the corrupt moron has created
fortunately there will be another federal election
 
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That's the thing.

People talk about how in Canada we are now seeing political divisions akin to US politics like we've never seen before. And there is truth in that. But when you look at it, it starts with Justin Trudeau .

In all my life, which is slipping more and more into decrepitude with each passing week, I've never seen such a divisive Prime Minister. He constantly insults and belittles ordinary Canadians who simply don't agree with him. We constantly get referred to as "racists", "misogynists", "islamophobes", "cruel", "small minded", "hateful", "homophobes", you name it. And for some, he suspends their constitutional rights, freezes their bank accounts, threatens to use the government to take away their children and holds them without bail for months.

These aren't his political rivals, these are ordinary Canadians he is constantly labeling as such. Just look at the rhetoric he and Freeland were using in the run-up to the by-election.

I can not think of a previous Prime Minister who ever behaved in such a reprehensible way in the past. Seriously. I don't recall Chretien, or Mulroney or PET ever calling Canadian people racists or misogynists. 45 percent of the population never would have voted for the Liberals and to Justin that means they are all racists and misogynist and homophobic. It's sick.

He's just like Hilary Clinton who labeled half of Americans "deplorables". No Hilary, they are citizens of the United States and the fact that they were not going to vote for you doesn't make them a deplorable.

Same goes to Poilievre, don't ever make that mistake. Don't label citizens who choose not to vote for you as anything but people you simply have a political disagreement with. In closing, i recall the late great John McCain who actually came to the defense of Barack Obama during political rallies when things got carried away. Can't imagine Justin Trudeau ever being a gentleman like that. And for that he deserves to lose.
That's what I've been thinking too. Trudeau has encouraged the Identity Politics and Echo Chambers found in American. We can't have an straight honest discussion about budgets and spending. Just look at the Capital Gain Tax. He tried to pass this off by using class warfare, but people have finally woke up. Eventually you have to deal with reality.

That's where Poilievre has shined. He doesn't fall for the identity trap and isn't afraid of challenging the negative statements. You take these things away, Trudeau and the Liberal followers have nothing. You're left with the truth that Justin has been and continue horrible.
 

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That's what I've been thinking too. Trudeau has encouraged the Identity Politics and Echo Chambers found in American. We can't have an straight honest discussion about budgets and spending. Just look at the Capital Gain Tax. He tried to pass this off by using class warfare, but people have finally woke up. Eventually you have to deal with reality.

That's where Poilievre has shined. He doesn't fall for the identity trap and isn't afraid of challenging the negative statements. You take these things away, Trudeau and the Liberal followers have nothing. You're left with the truth that Justin has been and continue horrible.
The problem is the rich are getting richer.
Taxing the rich through capital gains is exactly the start of what we need to have happen.


You really want this instead?
 

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If JT loses we will just claim the election was rigged, storm the capital, and take power by force…because that’s what normal people do, right?
We talking about Maga? We font have it here...besides....millions voted for donny...did millions show up Jan 6? No..
 

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Pee Pee once he takes the reins will be stepping in piles of runny, messy manure because he's an arrogant POS. I just hope you will be as hard on the piss stain as you seem to be on anyone on the left but I doubt it.
At least you're starting to accept...peepee might take the reigns....you're seeing the writings on the wall...majority want trudy out...
 
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