REVEALED: Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet social distancing and masking kids

[JuanGoodman]

Were you around for the whole bet on this? It occupied a whole thread back in the day.

The Daily — Deaths, 2020

There were 307,205 deaths in Canada in 2020, an increase of 21,935 over the number of deaths observed in 2019. While some year-to-year increase in the number of deaths is expected, the COVID-19 pandemic has had a significant impact on mortality in Canada, contributing to the largest annual...

www150.statcan.gc.ca

-- Life expectancy fell by more than half a year in 2020, the largest single-year decline in Canada since national vital statistics started to be collected in 1921
-- Over the course of the year, COVID-19 was the third leading cause of death in 2020, accounting for 5.3% of all deaths in Canada, behind cancer (26.4%) and heart disease (17.5%).

First of all, "250,000 a year" is a death total, not a rate.
And it staying exactly the same over 5 years with an increasing population would actually mean the death rate was getting higher.

But sure, let's look at the actual numbers.

Deaths and age-specific mortality rates, by selected grouped causes

Number of deaths and age-specific mortality rates for selected grouped causes, by age group and sex, 2000 to most recent year.

www150.statcan.gc.ca

Year	Deaths	Mortality rate (deaths/100,000)
2015	264,333	737.7
2016	267,213	736.8
2017	278,298	762.3
2018	285,704	770.8
2019	285,301	758.8
2020	308,412	811.5

Oops.
2020 broke 300,000 for the first time (but it was already well above the 250,000 you thought it was) and just to show it clearly, it also shot above 800/100,000

If you want to argue about COVID, go ahead, but please don't just make up numbers and pretend nothing happened.

why did you stop at 2020 in your chart?

in 2022 the number of deaths increased to 334 081

does that mean that the vaccine didn't work?

in Sweden no lock down approach was accepted and the number of deaths decreased from 2020 to 2022

 

[Valcazar]

why did you stop at 2020 in your chart?\

Because the specific claim I was addressing was the following:

the deaths rates in 2020 in Canada was no different from the previous 5 years(250,000 Canadians die each year)

The chart answers that specific statement.

in 2022 the number of deaths increased to 334 081

does that mean that the vaccine didn't work?

No, it doesn't mean that at all.
That would be a silly thing to say.

in Sweden no lock down approach was accepted and the number of deaths decreased from 2020 to 2022

Yes, but as you can see, the baselines and trajectory are different.

World Bank Open Data

Free and open access to global development data

data.worldbank.org

So Sweden did much worse in 2020 when it first hit, and then it, like Canada, has experienced a rise overall after the shift in 2021.

These are crude numbers, though, so there may be more interesting data in the demographics.

 

[JuanGoodman]

No, it doesn't mean that at all.
That would be a silly thing to say.

why would it be silly?

because you do not agree with it?

These are crude numbers, though, so there may be more interesting data in the demographics.

so you could be wrong?

or is it silly to even suggest that?

 

[Zoot Allures]

no he advocated total shut down of the economy which DID NOT stop the spread. the first use the lie of keep hospital free. or 2 weeks the flatten the curve that lie was quickly exposed when people starting uploading videos driving to their local hospitals which were empty since then more excuses and more lies constantly created. the goal posts keeps moving. the restrictions ended when people started to protest and rebel back in early 2022.

No lies on Fauci as science is a moving target which is under constant review as more data comes in

Everyone except and his acolytes know this

 

[Valcazar]

why would it be silly?

because you do not agree with it?

No.
Just because it is obviously untrue looking at the numbers.

so you could be wrong?

or is it silly to even suggest that?

Not at all.
Of course I can be wrong.
Maybe these aren't accurate numbers from Sweden or Canada.
But you would have to actually go find those actual numbers, now wouldn't you?

 

[HungSowel]

no sorry hospitals where not overflowing

from CTV news



'All of our rooms are empty': Hospital ERs vacant during pandemic


'All of our rooms are empty': Hospital ERs vacant during pandemic | CTV News



and nurses and other people were making dancing videos and ticktoc

For c19 i

no sorry hospitals where not overflowing

from CTV news



'All of our rooms are empty': Hospital ERs vacant during pandemic


'All of our rooms are empty': Hospital ERs vacant during pandemic | CTV News



and nurses and other people were making dancing videos and ticktoc

You think they treat C19 patients in the ER? They get treated in the ICU. They may arrive at the ER initially for a diagnosis but they do not stay in the ER.

When ICU beds were near capacity was when we had more stringent lockdowns.

I do not know if you are this dumb or you are just good at pretending to be dumb.

 

[JuanGoodman]

Maybe these aren't accurate numbers from Sweden or Canada.

maybe they aren't

or maybe it was all a scam

squeezer still wears a mask even when alone in his car

 

[Valcazar]

maybe they aren't

or maybe it was all a scam

You think the reported deaths in countries is a scam?

 

[JuanGoodman]

You think the reported deaths in countries is a scam?

you said

Maybe these aren't accurate numbers

and I agreed

maybe the numbers were skewed to fit the nareative

 

[Valcazar]

you said

and I agreed

maybe the numbers were skewed to fit the nareative

You think the total death numbers in the countries were skewed to fit the narrative?
We aren't talking deaths assigned to COVID-19 here.
You are claiming countries are across the board lying about how many people died from any cause?

OK, That's even further off the deep end than I expected from you.

 

[JuanGoodman]

So Sweden did much worse in 2020 when it first hit,

no it did not

In Canada the difference from 2019 to 2020 was about 8% rise in number of deaths

in Sweden it was about 10% so it was more but not "much" worse

but after that Sweden's numbers dropped down and Canadian numbers rose by 17% between 2019 and 2022

in Sweden between 2019 and 2022 the number rose by less than 7%

You are claiming countries are across the board lying about how many people died from any cause?

I never said that

 

[Valcazar]

no it did not

In Canada the difference from 2019 to 2020 was about 8% rise in number of deaths

in Sweden it was about 10% so it was more but not "much" worse

Death rate was much worse.
I will give you the rise was only slightly worse.

but after that Sweden's numbers dropped down and Canadian numbers rose by 17% between 2019 and 2022

in Sweden between 2019 and 2022 the number rose by less than 7%

Which I just showed you.
I do agree that it implies Sweden's much more aggressive vaccination policy (as well as their more aggressive travel and group gathering restrictions in response to the increasing pandemic) were much better implemented in 2021 than Canada's response, hampered as it was by the anti-vaxx/anti-lockdown/"COVID is a hoax" movement.

I never said that

You just did.

 

[JuanGoodman]

Sweden's much more aggressive vaccination policy

87% vaccinated in Sweden

84% vaccinated in Canada

so you are wrong again

You just did.

I'm pretty sure that it was you who said it

Maybe these aren't accurate numbers from Sweden or Canada.

 

[dvous11]

How much $ income did you lose during covid due to the lockdowns?
I'm going to guess those who still remain in favour of the lockdowns didn't lose a penny, being able to WFH.

 

[squeezer]

LOCK IT UP
LOCK IT UP
LOCK IT UP

 

[Valcazar]

87% vaccinated in Sweden

84% vaccinated in Canada

so you are wrong again

No idea where you got those numbers (they seem too high for both countries) but it does seem you are right that Canada did catch up to Sweden in mid-2021 on vaccinations.
So while I stand by the fact Sweden's more aggressive policy they adopted in 2021 helped them and was more effective than the Canadian one, I overestimated how much vaccination was part of the discrepancy there.

I'm pretty sure that it was you who said it

Yes.
I said that you could always choose to believe those numbers are wrong.
But then you would have to show it.
You answered that you thought the death numbers "were skewed to fit the nareative" .

If you think Sweden and Canada are lying about the total deaths in their countries, I'm afraid you are going to have to produce some kind of evidence beyond your paranoia.

 

[JuanGoodman]

it's incredible that some people still believe and trust this rat Fauci

 

[squeezer]

it's incredible that some people still believe and trust this rat Fauci

He answered the questions honestly and established his role. The CDC made the recommendation and it wasn't based on clinical trials. Perhaps in a clinical trial it would have been 9 ft, maybe 12 ft. Would that have been better for you? The one who looks like an idiot is the one asking the questions.

 

[The Oracle]

it's incredible that some people still believe and trust this rat Fauci

Fauci and his merry band of followers are such a crowd of weasels. My God.

Those aerosols were travelling miles for Christ's sake...Six feet LOL...Where did the CDC come up with that magical number.

 

[squeezer]

Fauci and his merry band of followers are such a crowd of weasels. My God.

Those aerosols were travelling miles for Christ's sake...Six feet LOL...Where did the CDC come up with that magical number.

Hence the reason for the masks to accompany the 6 ft which you also fought tooth and nail because some plumber on facebook said they didn't work.