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tool_man05

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Does anyone think part of the reason for the strain on health care is the mass immigration policies of the federal government? Knowing a health care worker at a hospital, they have said that there have been patients come directly to the hospital off of the plane !!
 
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No.

a) There is no mass immigration. It is controlled immigration per numbers set by the federal govt.
b) The immigrants are usually young and therefore unlikely to need medical help unless it is pregnancy and the like and
c) You cannot directly go to the hospital off the plane, because (i) You cannot get OHIP for 90 days after landing and if you are infact going then you will be charged exorbitant amounts. An ER visit for someone without OHIP at UHN is $1200 base fee.(ii) You need to take a medical test before you get a visa and therefore it is extremely unlikely that someone got of the plane and rushed to the hospital, unless there was a genuine health concern that required immediate medical attention.

In short I call your post bullshit fabrication.
up to you but I trust my source and allowing 500,000 immigrants a year is not controlled
 
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The fact that the average life span of a Canadian is more than an American would be a testament to the Canadian health system. I know many factors are involved but the relative health care systems would still a significant one.
It is only a statement that if you have a lot of money the US system is far better. But overall most do not have the kind of money needed to get health care as the cost are astronomical. That is why overall the Canadian health system is much better.

By the way, the US is the only developed country in the world without socialized healthcare. All other countries prefer to see their citizen as patients we need to treat as opposed to clients we need money from.
 
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It is only a statement that if you have a lot of money the US system is far better. But overall most do not have the kind of money needed to get health care as the cost are astronomical. That is why overall the Canadian health system is much better.

By the way, the US is the only developed country in the world without socialized healthcare. All other countries prefer to see their citizen as patients we need to treat as opposed to clients we need money from.
The systems are different. Most Americans do have healthcare insurance. Working Americans typically get it from their employers to cover themselves and immediate family with different types of insurance plans. PPO, HMO, CDHP's all have different structures but do give health insurance that most Americans can afford. Public systems like Medicare & Medicaid cover retirees and the poor who qualify. Overall there are benefits and flaws with both systems.

From my personal experience I have received better health care in the US than I did in Canada. I am far from rich. I am firmly in the middle class.
 
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The systems are different. Most Americans do have healthcare insurance. Working Americans typically get it from their employers to cover themselves and immediate family with different types of insurance plans. PPO, HMO, CDHP's all have different structures but do give health insurance that most Americans can afford. Public systems like Medicare & Medicaid cover retirees and the poor who qualify. Overall there are benefits and flaws with both systems.

From my personal experience I have received better health care in the US than I did in Canada. I am far from rich. I am firmly in the middle class.
I have been working with americains since 2002. If you only knew how often i heard of people holding on to a job they hate just because they couldn't afford losing the insurance.
 

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That is good for their economy, who ever thought of tying health insurance to a person's job is an economic genius.
I dont agree. Nothing is more toxic for a company then having pissed off workers who only stays on out of necessity.
 
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I have been working with americains since 2002. If you only knew how often i heard of people holding on to a job they hate just because they couldn't afford losing the insurance.
And I have been living in the US since 1998... If they hate your job... find another one. If they do leave their job they can continue health benefits under COBRA for 6 months. This will allow them to have insurance while they find another job. They can also go to the Federal Health Care Exchange to find discounted and subsidized insurance. If they go on welfare there is Medicare/Medicaid. There are options.
 

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It is only a statement that if you have a lot of money the US system is far better. But overall most do not have the kind of money needed to get health care as the cost are astronomical. That is why overall the Canadian health system is much better.
Most do have coverage of some sort or another, either employer or medicade/care or shudder the VA

They do pay a lot more and it seems they pad the bills a lot more to pay for the lawyers.
 

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I wouldn't trade canada Healthcare to what US has to offer....I'm good here...a good supply of cialis is all I need....
 

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The fact that the average life span of a Canadian is more than an American would be a testament to the Canadian health system. I know many factors are involved but the relative health care systems would still a significant one.
Or maybe it’s this?

Among men, the prevalence of obesity was over 8 percentage points lower in Canada than in the United States (24.3% compared with 32.6%)and among women, more than 12 percentage points lower (23.9% compared with 36.2%) (Figure 1).

In the highest BMI category the prevalence was twice as high in the United States (6.0%) compared with Canada (3.1%).
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https://www.cdc.gov › databriefs
Adult Obesity Prevalence in Canada and the United States - CDC
 

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I have accepted that this place is like Reddit. If Reddit was a child with special needs 💀 This is how I protect my inner peace.
My mom says I'm special



Sigh, remember when being special was a good thing.
 

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Or maybe it’s this?

Among men, the prevalence of obesity was over 8 percentage points lower in Canada than in the United States (24.3% compared with 32.6%)and among women, more than 12 percentage points lower (23.9% compared with 36.2%) (Figure 1).

In the highest BMI category the prevalence was twice as high in the United States (6.0%) compared with Canada (3.1%).
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https://www.cdc.gov › databriefs
Adult Obesity Prevalence in Canada and the United States - CDC
Maybe our healthcare system does a better job of educating people on proper diets, providing direct nutritional counselling with patients, and getting the government to institute certain policies regarding a healthier diet, like imposing regulations on food manufacturers.

It's a multifactorial situation and many of those factors have nothing to do with diet and obesity. But I'll stick with my original statement. I believe that there is a strong correlation between our comparative healthcare system and life expectancy.
 
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