Biden Will Drop Out Of 2024 Race—And This Is What May Happen Next: Steve Forbes

[WyattEarp]

I don't disagree with you. Biden is old and he the pace of a campaign is gruelling. However, I think he's a decent campaigner, and can sell his message. Trump is looking more and more decrepit, forgetting names of people or even the place he's in. I think if the media applied the same scrutiny to Trump that they do Biden, there would be a lot more concern. And, you just look at how the right-wing media selectively crops videos of Biden to make him look feeble or no connected. It's a sham and bullshit. Truthful reporting has never been Fox's strong suit, but they are sure as fuck amplifying any issues, even if they are made up.

Fox News only reaches a fraction of the daily news audience. Their audience is not voting for Biden.

MSNBC, CNN, WaPo and NY Times do a very good job of offsetting biased conservative news reporting. These outlets don't conceal their disdain for Trump. Someone recently posted on this thread MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace commenting how Biden is made to look old by conservative media editing. Once we get past the Democratic convention support for Biden will grow louder and stronger because there will be no going back.

If Biden is a decent campaigner and debater, there should be no problem for his campaign.

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Do you have any self-awareness? You're like a broken record citing Trump's conviction and twenty-five year old rape suit in response to the most unrelated conversations.

https://parade.com/living/early-signs-of-gaslighting-according-to-psychologists

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Do you have any self-awareness? You're like a broken record citing Trump's conviction and twenty-five year old rape suit in response to the most unrelated conversations.

You completely proved my point. Are you that incoherent to notice I didn't mention trumps 34 felony convictions or found liable for rape and fraud ? I did realize something however by your post; I forgot that a central part of the MAGA tactics is the straw man. Well done!

 

[WyattEarp]

https://parade.com/living/early-signs-of-gaslighting-according-to-psychologists

I'm glad you found some help.

 

[Butler1000]

I think you misunderstand the job of vice president. And, how do you know she isn't charismatic? Right now her job is to support the president, not make a name for herself. That's the job. She isn't supposed to show off her hard or soft power. And, as I said, you and her critics have brought nothing to the table regarding what she's "failed" at.

Instead, they make up controversies, like when she bought expensive cookware while on a trip to Paris...I'm also pretty sure she would have the "guts" to handle those messy parts of the job.

The job of the VP is to be ready to replace the President. So there is a stable continuity of Govt. After that its all ill defined secondary policy and diplomatic travel.

And the American people, when asked, really don't think she is up to the former. Hell her own state in the primaries had her in 5th. I think they know something.

But that's fine, stick your head in the sand. This election is going to be decided by a tiny margin in about 6 states, maybe 8 tops. In numbers of 10,000 votes. It matters.

 

[Butler1000]

Fox News only reaches a fraction of the daily news audience. Their audience is not voting for Biden.

MSNBC, CNN, WaPo and NY Times do a very good job of offsetting biased conservative news reporting. These outlets don't conceal their disdain for Trump. Someone recently posted on this thread MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace commenting how Biden is made to look old by conservative media editing. Once we get past the Democratic convention support for Biden will grow louder and stronger because there will be no going back.

If Biden is a decent campaigner and debater, there should be no problem for his campaign.

It's a complete toss up. Its going to be decided by maybe 200-300,000 votes across 6 states. And no one is going to be able to predict what is going to swing those votes.

 

[WyattEarp]

You completely proved my point. Are you that incoherent to notice I didn't mention trumps 34 felony convictions or found liable for rape and fraud ? I did realize something however by your post; I forgot that a central part of the MAGA tactics is the straw man. Well done!

When proven wrong divert to what about Biden, previously Hillary and previous to that Obama.

I'm sorry if you are offended. Your recent post history suggests that if you don't like a discussion regarding Biden you repeat posts about Trump that don't relate to the conversation.

There is one prolific, anti-semitic poster that has a very obvious proclivity for such participation. Do you really want to be that guy?

 

[K Douglas]

The job of the VP is to be ready to replace the President. So there is a stable continuity of Govt. After that its all ill defined secondary policy and diplomatic travel.

And the American people, when asked, really don't think she is up to the former. Hell her own state in the primaries had her in 5th. I think they know something.

But that's fine, stick your head in the sand. This election is going to be decided by a tiny margin in about 6 states, maybe 8 tops. In numbers of 10,000 votes. It matters.

I don't think it will be close. Trump will win all the states he won in 2020 plus easily carry Georgia and Arizona and likely flip Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and perhaps Michigan and New Hampshire.

 

[WyattEarp]

I don't think it will be close. Trump will win all the states he won in 2020 plus easily carry Georgia and Arizona and likely flip Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and perhaps Michigan and New Hampshire.

Close is all relative. If 200,000 votes (out of 155 million plus) decide the election, that's a close election.

 

[The Oracle]

If Biden is a decent campaigner and debater, there should be no problem for his campaign.

That eloquent and charismatic guy that used to entertain on the senate floor is long gone.

Why the Democrats or Obama by proxy are putting him through this is ludicrous at this point.

The only way they lose is if they run Biden/Harris the way I see it.

 

[Jubee]

Yeezy 2024 LFG!!

Why not, Yeezy v. Trump would be great for TV. Mainstream media is entertainment afterall, what better way to get ratings than those two.

 

[WyattEarp]

That eloquent and charismatic guy that used to entertain on the senate floor is long gone.

Why the Democrats or Obama by proxy are putting him through this is ludicrous at this point.

The only way they lose is if they run Biden/Harris the way I see it.

I do think you will see a lot of surrogates. The Obamas will be out there en force. Obama's Administration is very well-represented in the Biden Administration.

Interestingly, based on odds to be the nominee some bettors still believe Biden will step down. How would that work if he chose or was pushed to step down? Does Kamala automatically become the Democratic nominee? Can a Gavin Newsom or a Gretchen Witmer fight for the nomination and still have time to make a case to the general electorate? They could make a more compelling case that Trump is unfit for office as well as too old.

 

[dirtydaveiii]

I don't think it will be close. Trump will win all the states he won in 2020 plus easily carry Georgia and Arizona and likely flip Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and perhaps Michigan and New Hampshire.

Didn't you also predict that electricity is going to be obsolete also ? At least your consistent

 

[dirtydaveiii]

I'm sorry if you are offended. Your recent post history suggests that if you don't like a discussion regarding Biden you repeat posts about Trump that don't relate to the conversation.

There is one prolific, anti-semitic poster that has a very obvious proclivity for such participation. Do you really want to be that guy?

There is not one metric that Trump is not inferior to Biden other than illegals coming over the border. Spending, employment passing bills, getting things back on track after a pandemic - like it or not Biden is far superior to Trump. You may love the fantasy of deregulated govnmernt as being a good thing but Trump even fucked that up - with all his spending cuts he gave all the money away to the tune of 8.2 trillion dollars. Bidens spending created jobs while trumps spending created no jobs just massive debt. The Doha agreement was the worst deal signed in the history of America. The tariffs placed on Chinese goods was a disaster and eneded up contributing heavily to inflation and a massive bailout of farmers. I don't really care that Trump is a worthless piece of shit as a person and void of any morals what I do care about is that he was a horrible leader who screwed up everything and fucked over all his allies including Canada

 

[Butler1000]

I do think you will see a lot of surrogates. The Obamas will be out there en force. Obama's Administration is very well-represented in the Biden Administration.

Interestingly, based on odds to be the nominee some bettors still believe Biden will step down. How would that work if he chose or was pushed to step down? Does Kamala automatically become the Democratic nominee? Can a Gavin Newsom or a Gretchen Witmer fight for the nomination and still have time to make a case to the general electorate? They could make a more compelling case that Trump is unfit for office as well as too old.

They hae moved the roll call for delegates on line for the convention now, due to protest concerns on the convention floor. So they are planning for a coronation. Once that happens I have no idea what would happen. The candidate has to be on the state ballot. So just slotting someone in? Is it legally possible?

 

[Butler1000]

Didn't you also predict that electricity is going to be obsolete also ? At least your consistent

I think Michigan will become the key state this time.

 

[wigglee]

This has to be sarcasm. Either that or your algorothm is lying to you

covfefe

 

[wigglee]

The job of the VP is to be ready to replace the President. So there is a stable continuity of Govt. After that its all ill defined secondary policy and diplomatic travel.

And the American people, when asked, really don't think she is up to the former. Hell her own state in the primaries had her in 5th. I think they know something.

But that's fine, stick your head in the sand. This election is going to be decided by a tiny margin in about 6 states, maybe 8 tops. In numbers of 10,000 votes. It matters.

Harris is far more qualified to be President than any of Trump's possible VP's..... he chooses only maga yesmen with no backbone.

 

[Valcazar]

I think that if there were a viable candidate to come forward, that Biden would step aside for the nomination.

Not so long as Trump is running he won't.

BUt as you say, the political party system in the US is so dysfunctional that it couldn't find its ass with both hands.

It's the electoral system that's dysfunctional, not so much the party system. (That's a knock on effect.)

Whoever wins or loses is the people's choice. I won't blame anybody.

I accepted that Trump won his Presidency fair and square (to my knowledge).

Look, half of society is of below average intelligence. But we have as strong a single vote as the genius' like you, @The Oracle , and @mitchell76 if we were Americans and not just a bunch of deluded assholes thinking we are doing anything except jerking ourselves off to a game we can't even play.

So if the majority of the USA's bubbas and Trump fanbois want him as their President, that's what should happen. It's their country, their rules of democracy and in the end the power should lie in the people.

The majority didn't want him the first time.
The electoral college has some serious distortions.
Like I said, it is the electoral system that is dysfunctional.

 

[Butler1000]

Harris is far more qualified to be President than any of Trump's possible VP's..... he chooses only maga yesmen with no backbone.

Pence was qualified even if you don't like him. Being a governor gives you executive experience, legislative experience that scales up to the White House.