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Lia Thomas barred from Olympics

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These are genetic disorders that affect a tiny proportion of people . 99.9% of the population falls into the standard XX/XY model.

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These disorders of sex development (DSD), while considered a controversial and unhelpful medical label for people who are simply 'intersex', are what the name suggests – conditions where the reproductive organs or genitals don't develop in a typical manner, leading to a mix of male and female characteristics.

The causes of these various intersex conditions aren't very well understood – something the new research should help with – and they affect around 1 in 4,500-5,500 people (though precise figures are hard to come by).
 

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These are genetic disorders that affect a tiny proportion of people . 99.9% of the population falls into the standard XX/XY model.

From the article:
These disorders of sex development (DSD), while considered a controversial and unhelpful medical label for people who are simply 'intersex', are what the name suggests – conditions where the reproductive organs or genitals don't develop in a typical manner, leading to a mix of male and female characteristics.

The causes of these various intersex conditions aren't very well understood – something the new research should help with – and they affect around 1 in 4,500-5,500 people (though precise figures are hard to come by).
You know some trees change sex, don't you?
So do frogs.

Its a bit like this.
 

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WTF do trees or frogs have to do with humans? I did qualify my definition.
Nature isn't binary, neither are humans.
Why does it bother you?

You're not really going to say you only watch women's sports now, are you?
 

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Nature isn't binary, neither are humans.
Why does it bother you?
Because it's untrue. Just like the belief in a flat earth. Just because you say something, doesn't make it so.
 

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Andre is fine because wrestling is fake anyway.
Why is it fake? Why do you get to decide?

The professional wrestling community and their allies have a different point of view.
 

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Why is it fake? Why do you get to decide?

The professional wrestling community and their allies have a different point of view.
It’s my opinion, bro…if you believe wrestling is real and believing that makes you happy then you should keep right on believing that; I’m not here to take it away from you.


 

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In the mean time, don’t be fooled by transphobic bigots who obsess over these issues for no reason other than to spew hate and venom against the trans community. *barf*
Lia Thomas has been a big story for some time. Perhaps your sources of information have been suppressed the story, but watching that 2022 NCAA women's 500 freestyle final was heartbreaking.

The reality is even if you don't consider NCAA swimming a big deal the Olympics are a fucking big deal.

Don't you think it's an absurd world where for years the IOC has been banning female athletes for injecting male hormones and some people support a biological male competing with women?

The partisan vitriolic world that you imagine yourself to be living in only gets worse if we can't find common ground on things that should simply be common ground.
 
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I believe this is what is commonly know as- a Distinction without a Difference.

Distinction without a Difference
I think you might be intellectualizing by throwing a catchy phrase that doesn't respond to the original post.

You're logical choices for a retort would have appeared to be:

1) Argue for transgender women's right to compete in women's sports.
2) Argue that concern for transgender women athletes is not virtue signaling, but you would still might need to lean on no. 1.
 
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Why is it fake? Why do you get to decide?

The professional wrestling community and their allies have a different point of view.
Depending on what side their bread gets buttered...
 

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Great news. The world is coming together in unison on this issue. Not sure why pre-professional sports in the US and Canada can’t see that a male can’t compete against women.
In the United States, I think it says more about our academic institutions and who oversees them. America's academic institutions are on the bleeding edge of progressivism.

That's why you see a few progressives here think they have to argue against the prevailing thought. They believe they are fighting for something bigger in society.
 
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I think you might be intellectualizing by throwing a catchy phrase that doesn't respond to the original post.

You're logical choices for a retort would have appeared to be:

1) Argue for transgender women's right to compete in women's sports.
2) Argue that concern for transgender women athletes is not virtue signaling, but you would still might need to lean on no. 1.
All leagues are coming to rules and regulations to deal with this, its no big deal.
There are only a few athletes this covers.

You need a better issue.
 
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