Firstly, I made a grammatical error in my sentence there. I should have said "No one is arguing that Stacy Clarke's conduct ISN'T misconduct". But if you read the rest of my posts, it should have been abundantly clear that I do accept and do call it misconduct in multiple other posts. Fixed that now.
Pretty big error.
I can't keep up with your changing stories so I'll take you at your word.
But I dont need any working knowledge of the TPS. I can go off what is available out there in public, that Stacy Clarke herself has said in this case, and what news outlets have already published.
Well then we could also solve the housing crisis with the money we save on courtrooms, judges, prosecutors. We have the "news outlets"!
You are being deliberately ignorant of both the reality and reliability of the reporters. I will tell you this from personal experience. In every instance where I have been in, or had direct knowledge of something reported or otheriwse published, there have been materially significant inaccuracies published. Some change the entire context of the incident or issue being reported on. From traffic, to beig a witness to a criminal act, to me or my clients being interviewed by
friendly media.
And YES you do need working knowledge of TPS and how each level of policing agencies work to have any meaningful insight. There is a BIGGER crisis in the TPS than reported racial bias. It is a lack of trust in police by the public. And a lack of respect for the leadership. Sure, the boys will salute, yes sir three bags full sir! But they go to work. They do not go because they are inspired by leadership.
Is it not true that she said that there is systemic bias in the TPS? Is it not true that she said she felt invisible and in her desperation did something unethical?
So why are you accusing ME of injecting racial prejudice into the discussion, as if I made something up, when I am merely repeating what the accused herself has brought to light and is pretty much in every article cited?
She is but one voice. And that is her
opinion and her
excuse for being caught red handed cheating. Spend a day in a Toronto criminal courtroom where pleas are accepted. Listen to the bullshit the criminals whimper about why they did this and that and how sorry they are... just to get a reduced sentence. Then they go right back out and do it again. Isn't that "revolving door" one of the biggest complaints the public has when they say they have lost faith in the justice system.
Look, I think you are generally a man of integrity. I imagine there is NOTHING anyone could do to make you rob a bank, deal drugs, carry an illegal handgun or enter into a conspiracy at YOUR workplace to help anyone get promoted by falsifying records etc. It's just not in you.
And I know/knew several (retired) Senior and rank and file Police officers who are so clean as a whistle that they would never do such a thing. It is not in them.
When someone has it within them to deliberately, with forethought, to cheat... that speaks to their character. If she was so principled she should have used her influence to keep that or other policies on the front burner. Not sully the reputation of herself and the six officers SHE thought were not capable of being promoted on their own merits and skills.
I read one of your earlier posts where you opined that if she had to help black police officers, may be it was because they weren't good enough in the first place.
Fuck off. That is an outright lie. You are deliberately twisting what I said or are just so twisted up in your own logical fallacies that. you don't know what anyone said.
I said that SHE may have thought that these six officers may not have passed the promotion exams so therefore SHE had a low enough of an opinion of them that SHE felt the need to cheat.
But that is what systemic racism IS. That even if you are good enough, you will be passed over citing one reason or another that you cannot technically find fault with, but being a POC, you have seen enough of a pattern throughout your life that you just
know what it is. Heck, I have been on the receiving end of this multiple times. In my case I could just quit and move to another organization (which I have done before), but where will a police officer quit and move to? They'd get stuck.
That is the desperation she says she felt. And that context is not just important to note, but it is important to scrutinize and fix. Why else will an otherwise honourable police officer, with no other allegations or history of misconduct, suddenly break bad?
Systemic failure to promote Black officers under microscope as superintendent apologizes for helping racialized police cheat
“Maybe ask the chief and the service to do a little bit more to look into this and to decide if there’s something wrong,” Tory said at the time, pointing to statistics that of a pool of 58 Black applicants, 13.7 per cent were interviewed, and 1.7 per cent were hired.
You only know what is reported in 500 words of sensationalized "news". You don't know what goes on in the hours and hours of discussions and it is a known practice to cherry pick whatever quotes to fit the writer or editor's narrative.
You may not know it, but you are grossly under, and misinformed. And being stubbornly ignorant.
But in one way you are correct. You don't have to know the inner workings of TPS, YRP, Peel, Durham, OPP, RCMP, CSIS etc to know what is right and wrong and what comes first.
Integrity of the criminal justice system, especially the trustworthiness and integrity of sworn peace officers, comes before well intentioned (and needed) social/racial justice in hiring. You think that millions more houses can be built than every expert does just by wishful thinking. Despite the objective issues that don't make it possible. And you think that a few white lies to promote black cops is an acceptable form of police corruption. Because that is what it is, corruption. Where do we allow the police to draw the line?
