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Kautilya said:
Gantz's plan is awful. Establish an American-European-Arab-Palestinian civilian rule and Israeli security control. Basically pass the costs of administrating Gaza to the tax payers of the west, while ensuring the Palestinians are never free. Fuck that guy.
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Stupid plan, but if takes down Netanyahu's government then they should try it.


What’s in the 6-point plan demanded by Israel’s Benny Gantz?

Israeli war cabinet minister Benny Gantz says if Prime Minister Netanyahu fails to agree on a plan before June 8 that includes these six tenets, he will break from his government and attempt to hold elections:
 
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Frankfooter said:
Stupid plan, but if takes down Netanyahu's government then they should try it.


What’s in the 6-point plan demanded by Israel’s Benny Gantz?
Israeli war cabinet minister Benny Gantz says if Prime Minister Netanyahu fails to agree on a plan before June 8 that includes these six tenets, he will break from his government and attempt to hold elections:
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Whatever political construct that replaces the current construct won’t last. The turmoil in Israel hasn’t even begun to play out. This a a society falling apart. Foundational myths have been exposed. The new political structures will have to reflect the changed realities, regional and global. This will reverberate for decades in Israel.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1791915518682628527
 
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Kautilya said:
Primarily Israel's security control needs to be abolished both in Gaza and in the West Bank. Security control = apartheid = pressure cooker situation = Hamas or Hamas alt = October 7 part 2.
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Except when Egypt was in charge attacks still happened.

Put someone else in charge they will attack. Give them control they will attack.
 
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Kautilya said:
Corruption is an internal matter. And terrorism exists where conflict exists. Once the conflict ends terrorism has also shown to subside as is the case in many conflict free middle eastern states.
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Its an external matter unless you are saying all funding should be cut to the Palestinians. I do have the right to question where my tax dollars go.

Terrorism exists where extremism exists. Extremism is the essence of the Palestinians.
 
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IDF: Senior Hamas operative in terror group’s supply unit killed in Gaza airstrike


A senior Hamas operative in the terror group’s supply unit was killed in an airstrike in the Gaza Strip yesterday, the military says.

According to the IDF, Azmi Abu Daqqa was involved in smuggling weapons and funds for Hamas in Gaza.

The airstrike was carried out following intelligence provided by the Military Intelligence Directorate, the IDF says.

www.timesofisrael.com

IDF: Senior Hamas operative in terror group’s supply unit killed in Gaza airstrike

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You are free to vote for someone who calls for cutting funding for Palestinians if you dont support aid. That is your choice. I will always support aid to Palestine regardless of corruption. After all corruption exists everywhere. There are no corruption free states.

And extremism exists where conflict and strife exists. It goes back to my previous point.
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Extremism exists when the religion they adhere to calls for it.
 
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The ambassadors of POS nation

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I see you're concentrating on the largest, most terrifying war crimes now. Crockery-smashing?.....

Is that some type of "genocide"?

Reality check. Some of those soldiers are dumb. Some are assholes. Most probably dislike the Gazans because of stuff like the Intifada and 7/10. That soldier should probably get extra KP and a couple of days in the stockade for doing that shit. That's how much it's worth.
 
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Kautilya said:
Extremism exists everywhere - we have our domestic terrorists, neo-nazis, skinheads et all. They have theirs - ISIS, Al-Qaeda etc.,

Extremism rises when strife and conflict rises. The more intense and chaotic the conflict, the more the extremism. That is why after Trump, the country became so divided and strife torn politically, that our previously silent extremists reared their heads and organized Charlottesville. Similarly, Syria which experienced a more serious form of strife and conflict, such as a civil war, saw bigger and nastier extremists in ISIS.

Once there is peace, extremism will have no legs to stand on. It is why this war needs to stop. The more intense this war, the more legitimized Hamas becomes. The easier it becomes for them to recruit foot soldiers. The more terrorism it will enable.
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Except the Palestinians ELECTED extremism as their representatives.
 
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Except the Palestinians ELECTED extremism as their representatives.
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And Israelis elected Netanyahu who is committing genocide.
The difference is nobody argues that all Israelis should be killed for this while people argue for genocide in Gaza because Hamas was elected.
 
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Yes, because they consider Hamas as the only people standing up for them. And they are not wrong, its true. Remember one man's extremist is another man's freedom fighter. You give them the freedom, so there is no reason to fight for it. Aka delegitimizes Hamas' existence. Freedom and sovereignty for the Palestinians is what will end terrorism.
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And "standing up for them" is defined as a sneak attack killing 1200. Stealing aid and construction supplies to sell and create weapons. The leaders are billionaires living in Qatar.

Right......

Show me actual leadership. They get killed before they can help.
 
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Yes, because they consider Hamas as the only people standing up for them. And they are not wrong, its true. Remember one man's extremist is another man's freedom fighter. You give them the freedom, so there is no reason to fight for it. Aka delegitimizes Hamas' existence. Freedom and sovereignty for the Palestinians is what will end terrorism.
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As simple as 1 + 1 = 2. But peace isn’t what Ziontologists want. It’s ethnic cleansing, genocide and land.
 
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