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Phil C. McNasty said:
Minnesota is now in play. Biden only holds 2.3 point lead

www.realclearpolling.com

2024 Minnesota: Trump vs. Biden | RealClearPolling

2024 Minnesota: Trump vs. Biden | RealClearPolling
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www.foxnews.com

Trump predicts 'jacked up' Biden at upcoming debates, blasts Bidenomics in battleground speech

Former President Trump heads to Minnesota Friday to headline a state GOP fundraiser as he aims to flip the blue state red in November's election and expand the map in his 2024 rematch with Biden.
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Can Canadians access the British bookmaker's real-time Presidential odds on the internet? That to me are the most intriguing data points.

In aggregate, polls can tell us somethings and they can pick up trends. However, the media that reports the information can't help layering on noise upon noise. An outlying poll gets magnified in headlines. Some pundits and outlets try to focus on national numbers that don't really tell you anything about the actual pivotal States.

That's Infotainment!
 
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onomatopoeia said:
I don't care much about politics, and I'm proud to say that no one for whom I have voted has ever won an election, of any kind. That includes student government when I was in school.
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You should've voted for the hot chick for Student Govt. President. ;)
 
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y2kmark said:
Thanx for the input from the pinhead peanut gallery. Bzzzz Dork!!!
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WTF triggered you?

Someone gives us their honest impression of electoral politics and you shit on their post. Hey, we're all sorry that
onomatopoeia's perspective doesn't conform to your world view.

By the way, straight from the Forum's rules of engagement:

"YOU ARE ALL ADULTS. Please act accordingly. Disagree with each other, fine, but please do so in a respectful manner."

The Moderators clearly make a big leap when they presume we are all adults here.
 
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onomatopoeia said:
I don't care much about politics, and I'm proud to say that no one for whom I have voted has ever won an election, of any kind. That includes student government when I was in school.

I don't consider myself to be a supported of the Right, but I do consider myself to be an opponent of the Left. This is because, as a White male, the Left arbitrarily assigns me, as an individual, to groups with which I am not affiliated, and simultaneously holds me accountable for actions perpetrated by other members of those groups. At the same time, the Left hides behind group memberships to avoid taking personal responsibility for anything they say or do, and they are unable to criticize any member of any other group in their voting coalition.

Very often, a vote for one candidate is not an endorsement of their platform; it is a vote against their opponent.

While the committed Left often think of themselves as being subscribers to a majority opinion, they are, in reality, a relatively small but vocal subset of the potential voting pool. The real plurality is the unaffiliated individuals who don't care enough to exercise their voting rights.

I am a vocal opponent of any and all proposals for 'group rights', because only individuals can have rights, whether or not they are part of a group. Groups don't have responsibilities nor accountability, and any behaviors which are permitted for some, but not all, individuals are not rights; they are privileges.
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hey buddy you nailed it
 
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WTF triggered you?
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I put him on Ignore recently because he was trolling me in the Name the movie! thread. At 4:30 in the morning, he was posting garbage twice per minute, then he deleted the posts. I posted a screen cap from my announcements to show he had done that.

He's just one of those attention whores who thinks that I'm I'm going to re-acknowledge his existence if he continues to troll me. Yes, he is THAT pathetic, especially for someone his age - the guy must be pushing 70 from one direction or the other, because he said he saw Jack Ruby whack Lee Harvey Oswald on live TV, and that was almost 61 years ago.

In my younger days, I used to enjoy fighting trolls on boards, and I was very good at it. I frequently held my own against up to five working simultaneously, during my stint writing comments on thedirty(dot)com. See also, this post: https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/post-disappears-but-numbering-changes.850691/#post-8491246 for more info.

My favorite tactic was to reply to trolls with animated sign language .gifs.

I grew tied of appeasing the popcorn eaters who wanted to see me fight, and the endless string of challengers who were, essentially, gluttons for punishment. Now I give one warning when someone trolls me, and I put them on Ignore, permanently, for a second offense. I have better things to do these days than interacting with losers who want to piss me off.
 
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Butler1000 said:
Whats wrong with a debate?
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The "debates" in the US system are mostly useless. (I've said this repeatedly.)

But this isn't about "what's wrong with a debate".

This is about you pretending that Biden "won't do a debate geared towards Hispanics".
 
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Valcazar said:
The "debates" in the US system are mostly useless. (I've said this repeatedly.)

But this isn't about "what's wrong with a debate".

This is about you pretending that Biden "won't do a debate geared towards Hispanics".
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Why are debates useless?
 
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Butler1000 said:
www.nbcnews.com

'No more games': Biden campaign rejects additional debates against Trump

Both campaigns agreed to two debates this week. The Biden campaign said it wasn't interested in two additional face-offs that Trump has accepted.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

Why won't Biden do a debate geared towards Hispanics?
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Trump is just jockeying around for appearances. There is no need for Univision or Telemundo to have special debate access. The Presidential debates will be broadcast on Spanish television.

I recall a primary debate where the Spanish TV moderator (one of two or three mods) was literally taking disruptive positions regarding migrants. At the time, I said you can't really have a debate where a moderator asks biased questions that presume acceptance of certain positions. I'm not even sure the Spanish-speaking audience accepted her line of thinking.

We should actually never know a moderator's perspective. This hasn't stopped debate moderators from trying to being a part of the show.
 
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Butler1000 said:
Why are debates useless?
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I've been over this repeatedly.

The format is designed for television ratings and not to inform.
It tells you next to nothing useful.
There is the vague "how do they perform on TV" but that's not super helpful unless you believe surface messaging is more important than policy.

Even with all that, they have a relatively small and temporary effect on polling and sentiment from what anyone can measure, since there is so little of substance.
It's been that way for years. It was better under the League of Women's Voters, but the Presidential Debate Commission was designed to make sure the debates didn't hurt the campaigns.

I'm very glad to see Biden push back on it and try and force the debates into a mould that might provide something useful, even a little bit.
 
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WyattEarp said:
Trump is just jockeying around for appearances. There is no need for Univision or Telemundo to have special debate access. The Presidential debates will be broadcast on Spanish television.

I recall a primary debate where the Spanish TV moderator (one of two or three mods) was literally taking disruptive positions regarding migrants. At the time, I said you can't really have a debate where a moderator asks biased questions that presume acceptance of certain positions. I'm not even sure the Spanish-speaking audience accepted her line of thinking.

We should actually never know a moderator's perspective. This hasn't stopped debate moderators from trying to being a part of the show.
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That move to the moderators thinking they need to be important and part of the show is another part of the debates growing more and more irrelevant over time.
 
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Valcazar said:
I've been over this repeatedly.

The format is designed for television ratings and not to inform.
It tells you next to nothing useful.
There is the vague "how do they perform on TV" but that's not super helpful unless you believe surface messaging is more important than policy.

Even with all that, they have a relatively small and temporary effect on polling and sentiment from what anyone can measure, since there is so little of substance.
It's been that way for years. It was better under the League of Women's Voters, but the Presidential Debate Commission was designed to make sure the debates didn't hurt the campaigns.

I'm very glad to see Biden push back on it and try and force the debates into a mould that might provide something useful, even a little bit.
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Ah, so you would prefer no questioning of candidates.
 
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